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Poland9262 Posts

2 hours ago

#107841

On December 23 2025 21:47 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Aren’t Battleships totally obsolete ? What do they do an aircraft carrier doesn’t do ten times better ?

Assuming you have total air superiority, maybe you can park it in front of some third world capital and barrage it from a relatively safe distance without needing to use jets?

I'm joking but I really don't see any uses for battleships in the 21st century other than being huge artillery platforms, at least not before Blizzard patches the reality to give them shields, teleports or the Yamato Cannon.

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Poland2271 Posts

2 hours ago

#107842

On December 23 2025 21:47 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Aren’t Battleships totally obsolete ? What do they do an aircraft carrier doesn’t do ten times better ?

They are designed to sustain heavy damage and do not sink. With armored hull some battleships and armored cruisers resisted some heavy punishement. They were designed that way becaused their dedicated role was fighting in battle lines and survive high caliber artilery fire. I am more concerned about how do they can be effectively used in modern war, because with today arsenal a single corvete can destroy entire flotilla if armed with proper nuclear missile. What kind of enemy are they supposed to engage? Carriers lack that kind of protection and can be attacked by literaly anything with long range, more likely thou that their own fighter and bomber wings will locate and attack anything behind the line of horison. So I don't know.

DarkPlasmaBall

United States45174 Posts

2 hours ago

#107843

Given the children's strategy game and motto from the past few generations, of course Trump would want to brag about a boat equated with failure and losing: "You sunk my Battleship!"

I bet next he builds a new Titanic.

dyhb

United States56 Posts

23 minutes ago

#107844

The default presumption should be that these battleships are too big and costly thus and unjustified considering the opportunity cost of spending the same money on dozens of smaller ships toting missiles and drones. Both for asymmetric warfare and major power warfare.

I'll yield to competent experts that can elaborate on "hypersonic missiles, electric rail guns and high-powered laser systems, as well as nuclear-capable sea-launched cruise missiles currently under development." This could be a debatable matter in next-gen weapons systems from the people that spend all day designing for them, and could potentially overcome understandable skepticism.

This is an expensive boondoggle until proven otherwise. It's right up Trump's alley to senselessly prefer spectacularly huge ships with tons of guns. We've seen from the Ukraine war that large ships are vulnerable to cheap drone-delivered explosives. The priority should remain delivering drones and missiles from ships that can operate for long periods at sea, with other craft serve as support and extension of that concept. Aircraft carriers already exist in navies, and are useful though probably not central for future wars.

Gorsameth

Netherlands22001 Posts

17 minutes ago

#107845

There is 0 chance anyone knowledgably in the navy actually wants that shit.

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