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On December 24 2025 09:21 Uldridge wrote: The CCP isn't a Democracy isn't it. There's a big difference between authoritarianism and democratic governments. Can you guess what it is?
You can't seriously think that means US and the EU are not doing these behind the door? US prism program? Who knows how many more under the NSA.
The EU wants to scan every message sent in Europe. Will that really make us safer? | Apostolis Fotiadis | The Guardian https://share.google/98VUyMc1P1rveXA8u
On December 24 2025 09:44 ETisME wrote: You can't seriously think that means US and the EU are not doing these behind the door? US prism program? Who knows how many more under the NSA.
The EU wants to scan every message sent in Europe. Will that really make us safer? | Apostolis Fotiadis | The Guardian https://share.google/98VUyMc1P1rveXA8u
Uk has more security cams than anywhere else.
On December 24 2025 08:17 ETisME wrote:. If gov had the tech and know how, they would have done a lot more under secret projects that need whistleblower to come through.
What is it. Do they or don't they have the know how? And are or aren't they doing it behind closed doors?
My comment was solely on the fact that when the CCP wants things done they get things done. And usually things lag behind quite a bit for (at least in the EU) legislation as opposed to what next dystopian bullshit scheme corpos are trying to push next.
On December 24 2025 09:44 ETisME wrote: You can't seriously think that means US and the EU are not doing these behind the door? US prism program? Who knows how many more under the NSA.
The EU wants to scan every message sent in Europe. Will that really make us safer? | Apostolis Fotiadis | The Guardian https://share.google/98VUyMc1P1rveXA8u
On December 24 2025 08:17 ETisME wrote:. If gov had the tech and know how, they would have done a lot more under secret projects that need whistleblower to come through.
What is it. Do they or don't they have the know how? And are or aren't they doing it behind closed doors?
My comment was solely on the fact that when the CCP wants things done they get things done. And usually things lag behind quite a bit for (at least in the EU) legislation as opposed to what next dystopian bullshit scheme corpos are trying to push next.
Are you using any gov issued chat app and social media? If not then you know the answer. CCP didn't create alibaba or wechat etc neither.
My point is we aren't living on gov issued chat app /social media, gives it at least some more barrier against misuse by gov under closed door.
But that doesn't mean the gov can't impose whatever change they want, public or closed doors. Look at the awkward apple app store in the EU
I should’ve searched out the envelope and postmark after seeing the letter contents posted in the thread because … it’s the wrong city and a date three days after Epstein died. The DoJ produced so much responsive material that they grabbed an Epstein impersonator and shoved it out there. Hilarious and embarrassing.
Now this is probably going to really stir the pot and create a lot of backlash. It turns out that the documents were redacted so poorly that you can still select, copy and paste the text under black boxes to view them in any text editor.
This not only reveals the text and names that shouldn't be redacted (like mentions of bribery and corruption within some offices) but also the names, addresses and such of the victims.
On December 24 2025 09:44 ETisME wrote: You can't seriously think that means US and the EU are not doing these behind the door? US prism program? Who knows how many more under the NSA.
The EU wants to scan every message sent in Europe. Will that really make us safer? | Apostolis Fotiadis | The Guardian https://share.google/98VUyMc1P1rveXA8u
Uk has more security cams than anywhere else.
On December 24 2025 08:17 ETisME wrote:. If gov had the tech and know how, they would have done a lot more under secret projects that need whistleblower to come through.
What is it. Do they or don't they have the know how? And are or aren't they doing it behind closed doors?
My comment was solely on the fact that when the CCP wants things done they get things done. And usually things lag behind quite a bit for (at least in the EU) legislation as opposed to what next dystopian bullshit scheme corpos are trying to push next.
Are you using any gov issued chat app and social media? If not then you know the answer. CCP didn't create alibaba or wechat etc neither.
My point is we aren't living on gov issued chat app /social media, gives it at least some more barrier against misuse by gov under closed door.
But that doesn't mean the gov can't impose whatever change they want, public or closed doors. Look at the awkward apple app store in the EU
What‘s the barrier against misuse ? A corporation will always be for profit. You can pay google to favour your enterprise in the search engine. It‘ll be similar for other tech companies.
Leas government just means that people with more money get to bend more rules, as if there weren‘t already a bazillion examples for that. Do you want to be ruled equally or inequally by some corporate overlords because you don‘t have the funds to compete once they reduced governments to a dinosaur that can‘t keep track of what they are doing ?
Gift someone something useful this Christmas, like a basket of pre-written subpoenas. Using the internet used to be easy.
On December 24 2025 14:01 Manit0u wrote: Now this is probably going to really stir the pot and create a lot of backlash. It turns out that the documents were redacted so poorly that you can still select, copy and paste the text under black boxes to view them in any text editor.
This not only reveals the text and names that shouldn't be redacted (like mentions of bribery and corruption within some offices) but also the names, addresses and such of the victims.
In other words, fuckup of the the century.
This is very common when redacting, and this administration has proven to be very incompetent, so I'm not surprised. At my office, only a couple of people are authorized to do digital redactions on more sensitive documents because they are they only ones who know how to actually remove all the data and metadata associated with what's under the black boxes. For lower-sensitivity documents, other staff can redact, but we have to put the black boxes, print, scan, THEN say it's redacted... lol
the fact that the government doesn't have a program that actually completely redacts information and removes all relevant meta data is absolutely mind boggling to me.
On December 24 2025 04:29 LightSpectra wrote: The people who supported the insurrection thought the election was genuinely stolen. They don't want to be called pedo supporters by their neighbors even if they can cry half of it away.
Yeah, copium. To be honest, it’s quite interesting to read your perspective. It feels like you may have been a bit disconnected from reality over the past ten years.
I would say I admire your optimism, but I think it might be misplaced.
His supporters don’t want to hear that about their leader, but the point is that they don’t even need to accept it as true. Any Epstein-related documents that come out won’t really change that, because the reality is that they simply don’t care. If they had even the slightest reservations, they already had plenty of opportunities to step away ten years ago.
As much as I appreciate someone from another country telling me about the psychology of my own family members and neighbors, the fact is that Trump's approval rating is already a smouldering crater. You would've seen this for yourself from the 10-20 point swing in the November elections if you were paying attention, but sure, tell me about all the copium I'm on lol.
On December 25 2025 00:58 Gorsameth wrote: the fact that the government doesn't have a program that actually completely redacts information and removes all relevant meta data is absolutely mind boggling to me.
I just switched from government to private practice and the tech difference is insane
On December 25 2025 00:58 Gorsameth wrote: the fact that the government doesn't have a program that actually completely redacts information and removes all relevant meta data is absolutely mind boggling to me.
I'm pretty sure they have it. They just didn't use it. Which is about par for the course.
Let's face it. This administration started with Pete Hegseth adding a journalist into his top secret Whatsapp group.
Perhaps they used their new alpha redactor instead of the crappy biden woke ones?
Seriously Republican folk out there, are you not just constantly in a shame spiral from all the embarrassing people you hired, as the best of the best, to fix things. This government is an unintentional comedy. It is amazing how fast your country went from world leader to laughing stock.
On December 25 2025 00:58 Gorsameth wrote: the fact that the government doesn't have a program that actually completely redacts information and removes all relevant meta data is absolutely mind boggling to me.
They most likely do, like the government employee in this thread mentioned.
They just opted to not go through the proper procedures, likely because these departments are run by idiot loyalists and said loyalists felt they couldn’t risk letting the “deep state” participate in the redaction process.
So you just get lazy idiots leading lazy idiots to do a lazy redaction job
On December 25 2025 00:58 Gorsameth wrote: the fact that the government doesn't have a program that actually completely redacts information and removes all relevant meta data is absolutely mind boggling to me.
I'm pretty sure they have it. They just didn't use it. Which is about par for the course.
Let's face it. This administration started with Pete Hegseth adding a journalist into his top secret Whatsapp group.
They absolutely do. The Mueller report was properly redacted. They even bothered to print out the redacted documents, then rescan it in before releasing the rescanned version. A rather labour intensive of way of insuring there is no text underneath, but they at least knew how to do it before. And I hear it was pretty standard in the military to teach using Adobe Acrobat for sensitive documents? (Described as OpSec 101.) This isn't esoteric knowledge that got fumbled here.
But the second administration of Trump has brought in the best of the best akin to the administrations of Hurricane McCallion, Mike Harris, and Bob Rae. Brilliant leaders all, lol. Trump is giving a masterclass in controlling the narrative here. *insert a sketch from SCTV
So the US is building 25 battleships and China is doing the exact opposite and building container based weapon modules with different types of missiles as well as container based support modules like radars and phalanx systems.
Essentially turning their massive fleet of container ships into prospective missile cruisers.
There are problems with arming civilian ships but it's mainly against smaller threats because they aren't built for taking damage. But against battleships and aircraft carriers it will be fine.
remember there is a world of difference between what Trump says and what actually happens. Esp when the process for designing a new military ship will take years, but more realistically decades.
On December 26 2025 18:35 Gorsameth wrote: The US is not building any battleships.
remember there is a world of difference between what Trump says and what actually happens. Esp when the process for designing a new military ship will take years, but more realistically decades.
"The US isn't doing" has been said for years about Trump. Usually it turns out that the US will indeed try whatever he wants.
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