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MrJohnson
Profile Joined December 2025
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-12-20 20:30:35
December 20 2025 19:28 GMT
#107801
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maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5835 Posts
December 20 2025 20:02 GMT
#107802
Are you one of those people who believed in a pedophile ring in a pizza parlor? ;-)
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18344 Posts
December 20 2025 20:07 GMT
#107803
He's definitely try-harding his gen-z cosplay despite starting the post to say he's been on TL for a decade. So firmly millennial or even gen X. Let's guess who it is. Doodsmack? It's about equally coherent.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22441 Posts
December 20 2025 20:14 GMT
#107804
wow, such hard hitting truths. Disillusioned youths who will happily vote for a dictator won't suddenly vote Democrat, even if they no longer like Trump.

Yeah you sure need to be careful with voicing such incendiary truths, we lefties sure aren't ready to hear that...

Just embarrassing.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
MrJohnson
Profile Joined December 2025
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-12-20 20:34:24
December 20 2025 20:29 GMT
#107805
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9887 Posts
December 20 2025 20:36 GMT
#107806
Sometimes you read a post from a previously banned user and you just can't put your finger on how they could have ended up banned....
RIP Meatloaf <3
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
1946 Posts
December 20 2025 21:22 GMT
#107807
What was interesting is that he was like Trump isn't fascist, then that he was too moderate. So basically he wants a real fascist.

He was correct that there a lot of people who were Trump people moving away from him. It is pretty wild to watch. I do not think any of them would go Dem, because they hate "the left" but they seem to have really believed that America and the west could be "saved" with these super easy solutions. Some think they just need a different savior, but most seem to just pulling away from politics in general.

I think a lot of the real stuff is too complicated and boring for them to get into. They need maximum Drama, which Trump delivered on, but they are figuring out it is not that easy.

I also find it hilarious when people who get their "news" from influencers think they are getting more truth and honesty than from actual news sources. It is in the name, they are trying (and succeeding) at influencing you into a way of thinking they benefits them. Truth and the patience to find it is a inconvenience they do not bother with.
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
1946 Posts
December 21 2025 01:13 GMT
#107808
Probably not politics, but Andrew Tate - alpha male "world Champion" kick boxer lost his boxing match to a influencer. He showed an embarrassing low level of skill. His fan boys are going to have a rough night.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
December 21 2025 05:57 GMT
#107809
And Jake Paul got a broken jaw from his fight with an actual professional. It was a good day if you liked seeing fuckwits lose boxing matches.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2346 Posts
December 21 2025 14:56 GMT
#107810
Looks like Americans are bored of roleplaying action heroes and are switching to playing pirates instead.
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States2816 Posts
December 21 2025 19:04 GMT
#107811
At least 16 files disappeared from the Justice Department’s public webpage for documents related to Jeffrey Epstein — including a photograph showing President Donald Trump — less than a day after they were posted, with no explanation from the government and no notice to the public: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/at-least-16-files-disappear-from-doj-site-for-epstein-documents-including-trump-photo

The law passed almost unanimously by Congress requires all the files released with only the victims' names redacted.
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
dyhb
Profile Joined August 2021
United States455 Posts
December 21 2025 19:10 GMT
#107812
I gather that there are no Andrew Tate or Jake Paul fans here. Are there any leftist/influencer equivalents (that aren't outright politicians), where it's true that someone here would be sorely disappointed if they embarrassed themselves? I gather that the answer is no, but I'm not sure.

I'm as happy as the next guy to see losers lose. However, the influencer/culture warrior types always spin it for more views. In other words, they get paid no matter what. It's more about in-group membership. You can't argue that fans are disappointed with their performance, if nothing about their performance was evidence-based to start their fandom. Contrast this with actual jail sentences or substantial civil lawsuit losses, where their fans would be deprived of "content."
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2774 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-12-21 20:03:39
December 21 2025 19:57 GMT
#107813
On December 22 2025 04:10 dyhb wrote:
I gather that there are no Andrew Tate or Jake Paul fans here. Are there any leftist/influencer equivalents (that aren't outright politicians), where it's true that someone here would be sorely disappointed if they embarrassed themselves? I gather that the answer is no, but I'm not sure.

I'm as happy as the next guy to see losers lose. However, the influencer/culture warrior types always spin it for more views. In other words, they get paid no matter what. It's more about in-group membership. You can't argue that fans are disappointed with their performance, if nothing about their performance was evidence-based to start their fandom. Contrast this with actual jail sentences or substantial civil lawsuit losses, where their fans would be deprived of "content."


I guess this makes sense, given RFK jr sounds like he sounds, has brain worms, and yet you'll still hear people talking about how healthy he is and it's good for everyone's health that he's in the position he's in. Evidence is unimportant.

I don't know what leftist equivalent content creators would be. Adam Conover maybe? I haven't watched much of any of his content, but I feel like he fits the bill of 'embarassing leftist' considering the current spirit of evidence being unimportant. The equivalent then to Tate representing manliness and getting his ass kicked would be Conover representing... wokeness? and calling someone a racist/sexist/homophobic slur. Not sure how that goes. I don't think he could call Trump a popular 90s homophibic slur even in joke for the 'Big Beautiful Bill' stuff recently and get away with it, but then again I haven't watched more than an hour of his content so maybe he could.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12117 Posts
December 21 2025 20:24 GMT
#107814
On December 22 2025 04:10 dyhb wrote:
I gather that there are no Andrew Tate or Jake Paul fans here. Are there any leftist/influencer equivalents (that aren't outright politicians), where it's true that someone here would be sorely disappointed if they embarrassed themselves? I gather that the answer is no, but I'm not sure.

I'm as happy as the next guy to see losers lose. However, the influencer/culture warrior types always spin it for more views. In other words, they get paid no matter what. It's more about in-group membership. You can't argue that fans are disappointed with their performance, if nothing about their performance was evidence-based to start their fandom. Contrast this with actual jail sentences or substantial civil lawsuit losses, where their fans would be deprived of "content."


I think most people here generally skip influencers. George Carlin/John Oliver might fall in the same area for people here?
CuddlyCuteKitten
Profile Joined January 2004
Sweden2833 Posts
December 21 2025 20:31 GMT
#107815
On December 22 2025 04:10 dyhb wrote:
I gather that there are no Andrew Tate or Jake Paul fans here. Are there any leftist/influencer equivalents (that aren't outright politicians), where it's true that someone here would be sorely disappointed if they embarrassed themselves? I gather that the answer is no, but I'm not sure.

I'm as happy as the next guy to see losers lose. However, the influencer/culture warrior types always spin it for more views. In other words, they get paid no matter what. It's more about in-group membership. You can't argue that fans are disappointed with their performance, if nothing about their performance was evidence-based to start their fandom. Contrast this with actual jail sentences or substantial civil lawsuit losses, where their fans would be deprived of "content."


I don't know if Hasan counts as a left wing influencer and I don't know much about him except for electrodog-gate but I'm sure he has (had?) some fans that are disappointed in him? And probably some that are still diehard fans.

The defining aspect isn't really ideology it's that these guys are cunts and everyone likes to see them lose. That they win at the same time by getting money is unfortunate but that seems to happen regardless so at least it's nice to see them get punched in the face when appropriate. For Jake Paul and Tate it is appropriate since that's their image. For Hasan getting punched would be OK but preferably you want some shakespearean justice like getting canceled by the left or something.

But it's human nature to to feel disappointed when someone you follow lets you down.
I watched a lot of Dota 2 when Tobi left the scene and I really like his hosting and commentary. I felt plenty disappointed in him and that is about as far away from politics that you can come. But at the end of the day he turned out to be an asshole and you have to judge your values against blind belief.

Unity, support, family, and kneecapping bitches.
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1451 Posts
December 22 2025 09:31 GMT
#107816
On December 21 2025 14:57 Zambrah wrote:
And Jake Paul got a broken jaw from his fight with an actual professional. It was a good day if you liked seeing fuckwits lose boxing matches.

I'd take ~$100m to have my jaw broken tbf...
puking up frothing vitriolic sarcastic spittle
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18344 Posts
December 22 2025 10:28 GMT
#107817
Remember that episode of black mirror where they started off laughing at some poor sod doing vile shit for money on social media. And by the end, the main character was doing far worse on the same platform just to get by (the main plot was about medical costs, but the social media exploitation was more salient imho).

Anyway, it begins. Who's first to drinking their own urine for money?
hexhaven
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland964 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-12-22 11:04:56
December 22 2025 11:04 GMT
#107818
On December 22 2025 19:28 Acrofales wrote:
Anyway, it begins. Who's first to drinking their own urine for money?


Is the question here "who was the first to drink their own urine for money"? I think it's impossible to pinpoint, so we'll never find the truth of that. Note that I don't disagree with your general point, I just found this specific example funny.
WriterI shoot events. | http://www.jussi.co/esports
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5185 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-12-22 11:14:57
December 22 2025 11:05 GMT
#107819
People killed themselves for free because they wanted some attention (tide pod challenge). It's been this bad or worse for a decade now.
2012 was an inflection point towards marketing and social engineering dystopia.

Edit: actually I couldn't verify about the tide pods if anyone has actually killed themselves by it, but I also remember the blue whale challenge etc.
Taxes are for Terrans
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
December 22 2025 11:28 GMT
#107820
On December 22 2025 18:31 MJG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2025 14:57 Zambrah wrote:
And Jake Paul got a broken jaw from his fight with an actual professional. It was a good day if you liked seeing fuckwits lose boxing matches.

I'd take ~$100m to have my jaw broken tbf...


Would you take 100m for a badly broken jaw if you already had more money than you could reasonably spend in a life time though, that’s the real question
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
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