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Yurie
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RvB
Netherlands6233 Posts
On September 20 2025 10:03 WombaT wrote: Surely this isn’t actually going through? Surely! It directly fucks too many wealthy people right? You're mostly fucking the immigrants. Most of the benefits accrue to the immigrants in the form of higher wages. Since the largest income disparities are between countries it increases inequality. The largest corporations will also be least affected. They'll be able to attract the best talent that's left. If there's not enough talent they'll move what they can't do somewhere else. And what's the benefit? In the medium to long term immigration has little impact on labour markets. It's effectively taking small short term gains while making everyone worse off in the long run. | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5598 Posts
On September 20 2025 03:14 LightSpectra wrote: We've passed the 40th page of this thread of conservatives still weeping blood because the left have given more respect to Charlie Kirk than he and his fans gave to George Floyd, Trayvon Martin, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Breonna Taylor, school shooting victims, etc. Dude… can you even find one such post? I dont understand the constant strawmanning. Whats the point? | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria4322 Posts
On September 20 2025 08:45 Razyda wrote: I think Shoe summarised pretty well how for sane people left looks like now: You right-wingers should celebrate the fact that some people are dancing on Charlie Kirk's grave without getting thrown in prison for it. No, instead you choose to forget that right-wingers have been doing the exact same thing that you're now accusing others of, and you've ran defense for the free speech of those right-wingers yourself. | ||
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oBlade
United States5673 Posts
On September 20 2025 14:24 EnDeR_ wrote: I've had friends on those visas. It's not good for the person on it, if you lose your job you lose the right to live in the US creating enormous pressure. Ending the misuse of this would be a net positive and as expressed above, I'm also completely unsympathetic of corporations that depend on exploiting immigrants to be profitable. That is normal anywhere from Japan to Afghanistan. You don't have an international right to hang out indefinitely in any country you want, even if the person on it would prefer that. | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria4322 Posts
On September 20 2025 12:59 Zambrah wrote: Of course not, Trump only cares about appealing to his base, he doesnt give a shit about American workers beyond his desire to be admired and praised by them. Americans dont like people coming in and taking jobs, so Trump hamfistedly takes a crack and reducing one of the practices that does. That being said, I think the 100K number is probably not a terrible one, H1Bs arent meant for random fuckos, they're meant for people who have skills that employers just cant find in the US and if your skills are that valuable then you're likely worth the 100K in fees and shit. 10-20K is just basically nothing if we're talking about rare and skilled professionals. Its definitely bad for corporations, but I dont really give a crap about corporations and Im not super convinced that the people they bring in on H1Bs are all irreplaceable with someone in the US. 100K seems like a good number that dissuades bringing in junior/mid level staff at low wages and abusing them, but also isnt so high that you wouldnt pay it for that person who is genuinely experienced and highly skilled and you genuinely cannot find in the US. It feels weird praising something Trump did/wants to do. What people don't understand is that individual skill sets and experiences can't be replaced, regardless of how similar two different workers are on paper. One single individual has often been the deciding factor between pushing a new tech and failing a multi-million dollar project spanning several decades. You can't just replace any individual worker like that. It depends on what exactly their expertise/insight is, and in many instances that expertise/insight only exists in reality, but not on paper. Key talent is absolutely invisible from the outside. Even within a company it's often invisible, but that's a different topic. | ||
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EnDeR_
Spain2723 Posts
On September 20 2025 17:34 oBlade wrote: That is normal anywhere from Japan to Afghanistan. You don't have an international right to hang out indefinitely in any country you want, even if the person on it would prefer that. The visa is tied to the project. If the project is cut, you lose your visa. It's a perverse incentive. Also, why would you want to kick out a highly skilled worker that you didn't even have to train? Like, it's a money generator that you didn't even have to invest in. It should be rightwing policy. | ||
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