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LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States1755 Posts
2 hours ago
#105061
In other news: ‘We’re not North Korea.’ Newsom signs bills to limit immigration raids at schools and unmask federal agents

Remains to be seen if the latter is enforceable but the former is an extremely good idea.
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7349 Posts
1 hour ago
#105062
Yes.

No.

Not on this specific thing, I highly doubt it’s a straw that breaks even the camel with severe osteoporosis’ back, not in isolation.

As part of a continual pattern, yes it absolutely does have an impact. It’s uninspiring. It’s actively alienating if you are in one of the demographics Charlie Kirk shit on routinely to see those who are supposed to be in your camp gargling his balls.


Democrats are dumb politicians with the smarter electorate and Republicans are smart politicians with the dumb electorate.

Sucky position to be in, really relying a lot on the Democrats to be less moronic, but theyve shown such a low propensity for intelligent political calculus.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22053 Posts
1 hour ago
#105063
Good to know that influencers, social media and politicians have an opinion on the motivator for crimes before law enforcement does.

Is there an official statement where the shooter declared the reason for why he did it ?
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
1139 Posts
1 hour ago
#105064
On September 21 2025 08:21 LightSpectra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2025 08:13 WombaT wrote:
On September 21 2025 07:45 LightSpectra wrote:
On September 21 2025 07:43 WombaT wrote:
On September 21 2025 06:57 LightSpectra wrote:
It's a meaningless resolution that Dems only voted for so we don't have to hear millions of dollars of attack ads about Dems being so bloodthirsty they won't even vote for a meaningless resolution condemning political violence.

So what? They’ll be attacked anyway.

At some point they have to stop chasing unicorns and deal with the actual horses they have in the stable.

Does the person who goes ‘hm, I was a bit on the fence between Trump and his band of merry cucks, and the Dems, but man not venerating Charlie Kirk affronted my sense of decency, I’m going with the former’ even exist?



Does the "I would vote Dems for democracy, science, human rights and common decency, but they voted for this meaningless resolution so I'll stay home" person exist?

The right crawls over broken glass to vote for someone to destroy their own livelihood because it'll take down some minorities in the same sinking ship, while the left have to do this completely idiotic circular firing squad garbage every thirty seconds.

Yes.

No.

Not on this specific thing, I highly doubt it’s a straw that breaks even the camel with severe osteoporosis’ back, not in isolation.

As part of a continual pattern, yes it absolutely does have an impact. It’s uninspiring. It’s actively alienating if you are in one of the demographics Charlie Kirk shit on routinely to see those who are supposed to be in your camp gargling his balls.

Here’s how it’s done. Maybe Yvette Clarke, who I’ve never encountered before is some monster. This statement, fucking bang on. She lead with the general human decency, and she finished by pointing out Kirk’s lack of it.

Democratic Congresswoman Yvette Clarke says she voted against a Republican-led resolution Friday honouring slain right-wing advocate Charlie Kirk.

“I will always condemn senseless acts of political violence,” Clarke, the daughter of Jamaican immigrants who represents the 9th Congressional District in Brooklyn, told the Caribbean Media Corporation (CMC) on Friday.

“No American—regardless of party or ideology—should fear retribution or violence for speaking freely. Charlie Kirk’s murder was a horrific act of political violence and a stain on the United States, and any nation where young children lose their father solely because of the opinions he espoused is a nation in desperate need of healing and a different path forward,” Clarke said.

“I extend my deepest condolences to the Kirk family, friends, and loved ones, and I pray for strength and comfort for his wife, Erika, their two young children, and all who mourn his loss,” added the chair of the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC). “I also commend law enforcement and the suspect’s family for their cooperation in seeking justice for this heinous crime.

“As a Black woman in America, I am painfully mindful of our nation’s history and the violence rooted in bigotry and hate that continues to impact Black and brown communities,” Clarke continued. “And that is precisely why I cannot in good conscience vote to celebrate Charlie Kirk’s legacy. Mr. Kirk denounced the Civil Rights Act of 1964, describing it as a ‘mistake’ and an ‘anti-white weapon.’ He disparaged the transformative work of Dr Martin Luther King Jr, who gave his life for peace and equality. He demeaned Black women, including Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson and others in positions of leadership, dismissing their intelligence and accomplishments as nothing more than ‘DEI hires.’ He also spread disinformation and hate-fuelled rhetoric against Muslim, Jewish, and immigrant communities, while championing lax gun laws despite the devastating toll of gun violence in our nation.”

“Rather than seek to heal a wounded union, this bill aims only to push us further apart,” Clarke said. “For these reasons, I cannot and will not vote to honour a legacy defined by bigotry and division. To do so would dishonour the countless victims of political violence who are too often ignored. If we are to recognise one, we must recognise all.”

She said Kirk undoubtedly valued his right to exercise the First Amendment right to free speech.

“Yet, I am deeply troubled by how this administration has chosen to weaponise free speech, targeting critics under the guise of honouring his legacy,” Clarke said. “Free speech is essential to our democracy—but it cannot be used as a shield for hate.

“If my colleagues feel compelled to pass this legislation, that is their decision,” she added. “I have paid respects to Mr Kirk and his family, but I will not pretend to respect the painful words and ideas he so proudly held, nor will I honour a man who built a career out of dishonouring people like me. I, however, will instead lend my support to Representative Veasey and Pettersen’s resolution that ‘condemns all forms of political violence, including assassination and attempted assassination of public officials, candidates, and public figures, regardless of political party or ideology.’

“If Republican leadership is serious about addressing this crisis of political violence rather than scoring political points over Democrats, so will they,” Clarke continued.


She absolutely crushed that, why can’t Dem leadership do the same? It’s not that bloody complicated


I love Clarke's statement and I'm glad you shared it. I agree with it and in my ideal world, all the other Dems would be voting the same way with similar statements.

Having said that, I'm still not going to be baited into rage over how anyone voted on a meaningless resolution when there's a thousand other issues of actual importance. It's a complete waste of time and energy for anyone whose goal isn't to sew discord.

Careful, you're coming across as way to reasonable to be cool in this thread. If you want to fit in with the "cool" kids you have to hate hard enough to pass the continual purity tests. And make sure to hate hard enough on every single topic!
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25724 Posts
1 hour ago
#105065
On September 21 2025 08:26 LightSpectra wrote:
In other news: ‘We’re not North Korea.’ Newsom signs bills to limit immigration raids at schools and unmask federal agents

Remains to be seen if the latter is enforceable but the former is an extremely good idea.

That’s a good move. Smart politics if I dare say.

It’s not going to be popular amongst the ‘no humans are illegal’ or ‘I hate foreigners’ crowd, but realistically nothing Gavin Newsom is likely to do is going to appeal to either of those.

He’s not giving illegal immigrants a free pass, which like it or not is obviously a big issue for many.

I’d assume the average, middle of the road person is pro deporting illegal migrants, but not some of the processes we’ve seen lately.

Anyone arguing against what Newsom’s bringing in has to make the argument that ICE need to be able to pick up people without warrants, and obscure their identity

Outside of MAGA land, I don’t think that’s a winning argument, unless the US is even more fucked than I think it is.

I mean I can see an argument for ICE agents obscuring themselves if they’re part of a raid on like a genuinely big, dangerous drug racket or something, but not for random immigration sweeps.
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