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LightSpectra
United States2825 Posts
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oBlade
United States6283 Posts
On July 07 2026 18:48 KwarK wrote: Elon famously offered to end world hunger if the UN World Food Program could say exactly how they’d spend the money and what the impact would be. After they produced a plan meeting his criteria not only did he not give them the $6b he said he would, he spent the money on political influence to take funding away from them. You are correct, he famously offered that. Meaning this is not the first time anyone but you has heard of that story. Meaning the honest among us already knew it turns out you can't "END WORLD HUNGER" for $6 billion. The US$6.6 billion required would help those in most need in the following way: one meal a day, the basic needed to survive – costing US$0.43 per person per day, averaged out across the 43 countries. This would feed 42 million people for one year, and avert the risk of famine. You can feed some people for a year. That's great. Someone should do it. Which Musk must do as he's the only person or entity in the world with access to the colossal sum of $6b, right? Oh. Poor Oprah could only "solve" half of world hunger. On July 07 2026 18:13 Jankisa wrote: No, he ballpark cost to save one person’s life through the global health programs funded by Bill Gates typically ranges from $118 to about $4,500. Him and his ex wife, over the 30 + years of philanthropy (actual philanthropy, not giving a few billion to your foundations) saved estimated 150 million people. Most of Musk's philanthropy is transferring Tesla stocks to his own foundation that doesn't spend it. If we extrapolated how wildly rich he is, if he was a normal human being with empathy, the opportunity cost of him being just like you, a heartless fascist is much more then the 150 million lost lives, especially since he actively killed hundreds of thousands by gutting USAID programs for no reason, which will cause more deaths down the line. Combined with him not even trying to pretend to care about people and donate to maximize impact on humanity he's one of the most malicious humans put on earth. Yeah... most of Gates' philanthropy goes through the Gates Foundation which curiously seems to focus on causes that Gates cares about. For billionaires their philanthropy might not revolve around giving away money randomly, even if you wish they would. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46182 Posts
On July 07 2026 20:16 oBlade wrote: Yeah... most of Gates' philanthropy goes through the Gates Foundation which curiously seems to focus on causes that Gates cares about. For billionaires their philanthropy might not revolve around giving away money randomly, even if you wish they would. Uh yeah... causes like nutrition, sanitation, poverty, healthcare, education, and safety all around the world. Bill Gates is far from perfect, but it's a ludicrous whataboutism to try and redirect blame at the Gates Foundation when we're talking about how Elon Musk not only isn't charitable, but has actively undermined assistance (is "anti-charitable" a word? Musk and Trump have undone progress and reversed much needed help). You're 0 for 2 now with your red herrings (first Oprah Winfrey, then Bill Gates). | ||
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Jankisa
Croatia1441 Posts
"He cares about children not dying horrible deaths, fuck that guy! Instead, he should donate $250 million to my favorite fascist so he can let me live out my fantasies of seeing brown people suffer!" I miss the days when billionaires still mostly pretended like they were not monsters, because of oBlade and people like him, they figured out that there are millions of easily manipulated morons who enjoy suffering of others, so most of them are just mask off ever since Trump got elected again. On July 07 2026 20:16 oBlade wrote: You can feed some people for a year. That's great. Someone should do it. Which Musk must do as he's the only person or entity in the world with access to the colossal sum of $6b, right? Oh. Poor Oprah could only "solve" half of world hunger. As of July 2026, a sum of $6 billion represents roughly 0.6% of Elon Musk's total wealth, whereas it represents about 176% of Oprah Winfrey's total fortune. Oprah, who I actively dislike, still gave roughly 15 % of her net worth over the years to charity, Musk is well below 1 %. | ||
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oBlade
United States6283 Posts
On July 07 2026 20:04 Biff The Understudy wrote: US aids budget was 20-40 billions per year and was saving hundreds of thousands of lives a year. The little war in Iran from the twat you voted for has costed more than 100 billions dollars for the net result of strengthening the grip of the regime and fucking the world economy up. The world economy seems roughly the same as half a year ago to me. Otherwise I'm all for making war cheaper and cutting the MIC out of profiteering, with you there. On July 07 2026 20:04 Biff The Understudy wrote: Your grand children will already suffer the consequences of your deplorable choices enough that you don’t have to worry about the fraction of the us budget that was spelt on saving people from disease and starvation. I'd rather my grandchildren not live in a world with people getting nuked. On July 07 2026 20:04 Biff The Understudy wrote: Elon does jack shit philanthropy. There is no Musk foundation building hospitals, fighting tropical diseases or helping with education for the poorest people. I just searched and found he donated $55 million to children's hospitals in one go? You can certainly come back and contribute "That doesn't count, that's nothing," the point is you need to know what you're talking about first instead of blurting out patently false stuff like oh he's never done anything. On July 07 2026 20:04 Biff The Understudy wrote: I live and pay my taxes in Norway, and we spend proportionally far more than you guys ever did in international aid. And no one i know here is enough of a twat to lament that their grand children tax money is spent saving African kids from aids and malaria. Congratulations. You know the first reason nobody in Norway worries about how their grandchildren's tax dollars are being spent? Norway has a surplus. The US doesn't. Duh. If you don't even know how borrowing money works, what are you doing talking about US budgets at all. I mean this seriously. The world does not run on your vibes. You seem to have missed an entire political theme that motivates the people you disagree with. That's weird because it's not complicated or esoteric. Constantly shitting on the US while thinking everything is both our fault AND our job is contradictory. You should in fact be SO proud of your per capita charitable humanitarian foreign aid that you should be chomping at the bit at the opportunity to help make up for USAID in these difficult times, in accordance with the national virtues of Norway. But more fascinatingly to me, if nobody in Norway minds their tax dollars being spent that way, it shouldn't have to be tax dollars being spent that way to begin with, should it? Just donate. On the other side of the ocean, when the US Constitution says "promote the general welfare" it's assumed to mean "of the US" at least as a priority. | ||
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