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On July 07 2026 06:44 Fleetfeet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2026 05:39 Razyda wrote:On July 07 2026 03:54 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 07 2026 03:50 Razyda wrote:On July 07 2026 01:02 GreenHorizons wrote:On July 07 2026 00:41 dyhb wrote:On July 07 2026 00:25 GreenHorizons wrote:On July 07 2026 00:02 dyhb wrote:
I'm not holding out any hope for Congress telling itself that their families can't trade stocks while in office. Or working in lobbying firms (doing strategic advising or whatever workaround) or joining corporate boards after leaving office. Especially in today's age of hyper-partisanship. Ah yes the good ol' Hamster Wheel again. 1. There's a problem 2. Politicians won't fix it 3. Need to replace the politicians with ones that will 4. Can't replace the politicians because of how the system works 5. Need to fix the system 6. Politicians won't fix it (because it benefits them) 7. Repeat ad nauseam. Probably not any easier since SCOTUS lifted restrictions on campaign finance. On Tuesday, the Supreme Court dismantled one of the few remaining limits on money in politics, striking down spending limits imposed on political parties themselves. The law had been on the books since 1974, passed as a post-Watergate safeguard against corruption.
Democracy is perverted and corrupted when the wealthiest Americans can use their money to blanket the airwaves with their political messaging.
This case, National Republican Senatorial Committee v. Federal Election Commission, began in 2022 when JD Vance, who, at that time was a candidate for U.S. Senate in Ohio, sued to challenge limits on campaign spending.
In her dissent, Justice Elena Kagan spelled out the consequences of this move. “With no limits on coordinated expenditures, the party can serve as the candidate’s checking account,” she wrote, adding that the decision creates “a legal regime increasingly unable to stop political corruption, and thus to preserve our institutions’ democratic legitimacy.” https://www.ms.now/news/supreme-court-campaign-finance-spending-limits-democrats-republicansHow far gone and corrupt can US democracy get before we call the government illegitimate and take commensurate positions? I'm into educating the public and finding moderate ways around the hyper-politicization. I'm not into the violent, revolutionary methods that must be utilized to overthrow the "system." Even campaign finance reform must be integrated into (and subservient to) civic education: you stop people from getting their name out there by imposing spending limits, and you're just endorsing "incumbency" and "names I recognize" as the means of choosing representatives. There's no easy fix. Frankly the small strides I think would eventually matter get met with thread-mainstream commentary of "Don't bother convincing people, it won't work" or "it's the other guy who must change, not us!" What is a significant political stride forward you believe followed this "convincing people" method you're imagining rather than the methods like : -Civil Disobedience and Non-Cooperation -Parallel Institutions/Mutual Aid Networks -Non-Reformist Reforms -Symbolic Defiance: Basically, publicly treating the government’s symbols, laws, or leaders as irrelevant or void -Legal and Constitutional Challenges (My interpretation on this is probably a bit of an outlier but I would include appealing to the international community for help/condemnation of the US's illegitimate government in this) I have recommended? Dude, neither of this is going to work. Why couldn't any of those five methods affect change? -Civil Disobedience and Non-Cooperation - if they get problematic for the government you going to go to prison and eventually get shot at. -Parallel Institutions/Mutual Aid Networks - A mutual aid networks have 0 impact on policies and pretty sure already exist. Parallel institutions - if they start having impact they will either be taken over (fancy word is "regulated"), or... you going to go to prison. -Non-Reformist Reforms - thats basically trying to play snooker with basketball. Kinda fun, but its not going to work -Symbolic Defiance - nobody gives a damn, as long as you pay taxes...-Legal and Constitutional Challenges - Despite what you may want to believe law is not equal, it is on the side which has better lawyers and more money to pay them. And GH interpretation is I believe treason? Which coincidently rhyme with outcome for the one engaging in such activities. LOL that one got me, good work. What was the issue again with kneeling on a football field in Trump's first term? Did anyone let the US and/or Trump know that they pay taxes so its fine?
It would seem so, given that final conclusion was "let them do it, who gives a damn"
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Nazi tattoo guy, aspiring for Maine's Senate Seat over Susan Collins (R) might be done.
Ro Khanna (D-CA), who endorsed Graham Platner last month, now withdraws his endorsement. Ruben Gallego too (D-AZ). There were previously rumors that his previous accusations from women would not be his last.
That makes retaking the Senate harder. It runs through NC (Open), Ohio (Tossup), Michigan (open, hold), Alaska (Toss-up), and one from Iowa-Nebraska-Texas-Maine (Iowa more likely than Maine now, if you ask me).
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On July 07 2026 07:54 dyhb wrote:Nazi tattoo guy, aspiring for Maine's Senate Seat over Susan Collins (R) might be done. Ro Khanna (D-CA), who endorsed Graham Platner last month, now withdraws his endorsement. Ruben Gallego too (D-AZ). There were previously rumors that his previous accusations from women would not be his last. That makes retaking the Senate harder. It runs through NC (Open), Ohio (Tossup), Michigan (open, hold), Alaska (Toss-up), and one from Iowa-Nebraska-Texas-Maine (Iowa more likely than Maine now, if you ask me).
I'm not too familiar with Maine, but as long as Platner drops out and they replace him with Troy Jackson, Maine will probably still go D. If they try something sneaky to push the position away from the politics that won Platner the nomination they'll probably lose.
If Platner refuses to leave (he has to drop out by the 13th to be replaced) I'm not sure whether the typical "vote blue no matter who" advocate would still advise voting for him, the Republican, or being one of those non-voters they are typically so critical of?
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Is Mitch McConnell going to be kept on life support so he doesn't die until it's legally too late to call a special election?
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On July 07 2026 04:09 LightSpectra wrote:
Yeah Jankisa, why don't you just take a $20b loan from the government to fund US AID after it was illegally impeded by Elon Musk? Are you stupid?
You can save a life for far less than $20b. Ergo, even if you have far less than $20b, take what you have, divide it by the cost to save a life and the result is the number of people you are personally killing, just like Elon Musk personally killed hundreds of thousands of people.
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United States44398 Posts
On July 07 2026 13:31 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2026 04:09 LightSpectra wrote:
Yeah Jankisa, why don't you just take a $20b loan from the government to fund US AID after it was illegally impeded by Elon Musk? Are you stupid? You can save a life for far less than $20b. Ergo, even if you have far less than $20b, take what you have, divide it by the cost to save a life and the result is the number of people you are personally killing, just like Elon Musk personally killed hundreds of thousands of people.
millions. it’s millions.
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On July 07 2026 13:33 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2026 13:31 oBlade wrote:On July 07 2026 04:09 LightSpectra wrote:
Yeah Jankisa, why don't you just take a $20b loan from the government to fund US AID after it was illegally impeded by Elon Musk? Are you stupid? You can save a life for far less than $20b. Ergo, even if you have far less than $20b, take what you have, divide it by the cost to save a life and the result is the number of people you are personally killing, just like Elon Musk personally killed hundreds of thousands of people. millions. it’s millions.
Yes my mistake. At a market rate of $20b saving the lives of millions, Elon Musk is right now personally killing at least 50 million people by not turning his $1 trillion fortune into mosquito nets. He is essentially the Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot of the 21st century.
Not to let beloved mogul Oprah off the hook whose measly few billion she's hoarded is also murdering hundreds of thousands.
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doubleupgradeobbies!
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On July 07 2026 05:39 Razyda wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2026 03:54 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 07 2026 03:50 Razyda wrote:On July 07 2026 01:02 GreenHorizons wrote:On July 07 2026 00:41 dyhb wrote:On July 07 2026 00:25 GreenHorizons wrote:On July 07 2026 00:02 dyhb wrote:
I'm not holding out any hope for Congress telling itself that their families can't trade stocks while in office. Or working in lobbying firms (doing strategic advising or whatever workaround) or joining corporate boards after leaving office. Especially in today's age of hyper-partisanship. Ah yes the good ol' Hamster Wheel again. 1. There's a problem 2. Politicians won't fix it 3. Need to replace the politicians with ones that will 4. Can't replace the politicians because of how the system works 5. Need to fix the system 6. Politicians won't fix it (because it benefits them) 7. Repeat ad nauseam. Probably not any easier since SCOTUS lifted restrictions on campaign finance. On Tuesday, the Supreme Court dismantled one of the few remaining limits on money in politics, striking down spending limits imposed on political parties themselves. The law had been on the books since 1974, passed as a post-Watergate safeguard against corruption.
Democracy is perverted and corrupted when the wealthiest Americans can use their money to blanket the airwaves with their political messaging.
This case, National Republican Senatorial Committee v. Federal Election Commission, began in 2022 when JD Vance, who, at that time was a candidate for U.S. Senate in Ohio, sued to challenge limits on campaign spending.
In her dissent, Justice Elena Kagan spelled out the consequences of this move. “With no limits on coordinated expenditures, the party can serve as the candidate’s checking account,” she wrote, adding that the decision creates “a legal regime increasingly unable to stop political corruption, and thus to preserve our institutions’ democratic legitimacy.” https://www.ms.now/news/supreme-court-campaign-finance-spending-limits-democrats-republicansHow far gone and corrupt can US democracy get before we call the government illegitimate and take commensurate positions? I'm into educating the public and finding moderate ways around the hyper-politicization. I'm not into the violent, revolutionary methods that must be utilized to overthrow the "system." Even campaign finance reform must be integrated into (and subservient to) civic education: you stop people from getting their name out there by imposing spending limits, and you're just endorsing "incumbency" and "names I recognize" as the means of choosing representatives. There's no easy fix. Frankly the small strides I think would eventually matter get met with thread-mainstream commentary of "Don't bother convincing people, it won't work" or "it's the other guy who must change, not us!" What is a significant political stride forward you believe followed this "convincing people" method you're imagining rather than the methods like : -Civil Disobedience and Non-Cooperation -Parallel Institutions/Mutual Aid Networks -Non-Reformist Reforms -Symbolic Defiance: Basically, publicly treating the government’s symbols, laws, or leaders as irrelevant or void -Legal and Constitutional Challenges (My interpretation on this is probably a bit of an outlier but I would include appealing to the international community for help/condemnation of the US's illegitimate government in this) I have recommended? Dude, neither of this is going to work. Why couldn't any of those five methods affect change? -Civil Disobedience and Non-Cooperation - if they get problematic for the government you going to go to prison and eventually get shot at. -Parallel Institutions/Mutual Aid Networks - A mutual aid networks have 0 impact on policies and pretty sure already exist. Parallel institutions - if they start having impact they will either be taken over (fancy word is "regulated"), or... you going to go to prison. -Non-Reformist Reforms - thats basically trying to play snooker with basketball. Kinda fun, but its not going to work -Symbolic Defiance - nobody gives a damn, as long as you pay taxes... -Legal and Constitutional Challenges - Despite what you may want to believe law is not equal, it is on the side which has better lawyers and more money to pay them. And GH interpretation is I believe treason? Which coincidently rhyme with outcome for the one engaging in such activities.
Ahh yes, very good, we should never fight oppressive power because the people in power might not like it and respond by cracking down.
You have proven the fundamental conservative world view. The current power structure should always remain intact, because challenging this structure generally results in an unpleasant often violent response from those at the top.
Why would anyone ever want to get on the bad side of the powerful? That's horribly irrational, those people have the power to actually hurt you, and suppress their opposition!
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On July 07 2026 13:58 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2026 13:33 KwarK wrote:On July 07 2026 13:31 oBlade wrote:On July 07 2026 04:09 LightSpectra wrote:
Yeah Jankisa, why don't you just take a $20b loan from the government to fund US AID after it was illegally impeded by Elon Musk? Are you stupid? You can save a life for far less than $20b. Ergo, even if you have far less than $20b, take what you have, divide it by the cost to save a life and the result is the number of people you are personally killing, just like Elon Musk personally killed hundreds of thousands of people. millions. it’s millions. Yes my mistake. At a market rate of $20b saving the lives of millions, Elon Musk is right now personally killing at least 50 million people by not turning his $1 trillion fortune into mosquito nets. He is essentially the Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot of the 21st century. Not to let beloved mogul Oprah off the hook whose measly few billion she's hoarded is also murdering hundreds of thousands.
No, the USAID cuts that he was responsible for are projected to kill millions, mostly children. And the US farmers who previously sold agricultural surplus to USAID will need another government bailout.
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On July 07 2026 13:58 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2026 13:33 KwarK wrote:On July 07 2026 13:31 oBlade wrote:On July 07 2026 04:09 LightSpectra wrote:
Yeah Jankisa, why don't you just take a $20b loan from the government to fund US AID after it was illegally impeded by Elon Musk? Are you stupid? You can save a life for far less than $20b. Ergo, even if you have far less than $20b, take what you have, divide it by the cost to save a life and the result is the number of people you are personally killing, just like Elon Musk personally killed hundreds of thousands of people. millions. it’s millions. Yes my mistake. At a market rate of $20b saving the lives of millions, Elon Musk is right now personally killing at least 50 million people by not turning his $1 trillion fortune into mosquito nets. He is essentially the Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot of the 21st century. Not to let beloved mogul Oprah off the hook whose measly few billion she's hoarded is also murdering hundreds of thousands.
Elon dismantled out of spite and stupidity programs that millions of people depended to survive and that costed absolutely peanuts to the taxpayer considering their effect.
The fact he doesn’t engage in any philanthropy despite being a literal trillionaire (because his sci fi fantasies are good enough as a contribution to humanity probably) simply make him a cunt. The dismantling of USAID make him a mass murderer.
Are you entirely devoid of compassion and totally heartless in real life or is it an act you put here not to look like a complete tool to have supported those morons for years?
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On July 07 2026 15:17 Biff The Understudy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2026 13:58 oBlade wrote:On July 07 2026 13:33 KwarK wrote:On July 07 2026 13:31 oBlade wrote:On July 07 2026 04:09 LightSpectra wrote:
Yeah Jankisa, why don't you just take a $20b loan from the government to fund US AID after it was illegally impeded by Elon Musk? Are you stupid? You can save a life for far less than $20b. Ergo, even if you have far less than $20b, take what you have, divide it by the cost to save a life and the result is the number of people you are personally killing, just like Elon Musk personally killed hundreds of thousands of people. millions. it’s millions. Yes my mistake. At a market rate of $20b saving the lives of millions, Elon Musk is right now personally killing at least 50 million people by not turning his $1 trillion fortune into mosquito nets. He is essentially the Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot of the 21st century. Not to let beloved mogul Oprah off the hook whose measly few billion she's hoarded is also murdering hundreds of thousands. Elon dismantled out of spite and stupidity programs that millions of people depended to survive and that costed absolutely peanuts to the taxpayer considering their effect. The fact he doesn’t engage in any philanthropy despite being a literal trillionaire (because his sci fi fantasies are good enough as a contribution to humanity probably) simply make him a cunt. The dismantling of USAID make him a mass murderer. Are you entirely devoid of compassion and totally heartless in real life or is it an act you put here not to look like a complete tool to have supported those morons for years?
Wait, oBlade doesn't look like a complete tool? I thought he looked a bit like a screwdriver. He keeps winding people up. But really he's more like a hammer. He causes heads to bang into desks any time he posts.
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On July 07 2026 15:17 Biff The Understudy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2026 13:58 oBlade wrote:On July 07 2026 13:33 KwarK wrote:On July 07 2026 13:31 oBlade wrote:On July 07 2026 04:09 LightSpectra wrote:
Yeah Jankisa, why don't you just take a $20b loan from the government to fund US AID after it was illegally impeded by Elon Musk? Are you stupid? You can save a life for far less than $20b. Ergo, even if you have far less than $20b, take what you have, divide it by the cost to save a life and the result is the number of people you are personally killing, just like Elon Musk personally killed hundreds of thousands of people. millions. it’s millions. Yes my mistake. At a market rate of $20b saving the lives of millions, Elon Musk is right now personally killing at least 50 million people by not turning his $1 trillion fortune into mosquito nets. He is essentially the Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot of the 21st century. Not to let beloved mogul Oprah off the hook whose measly few billion she's hoarded is also murdering hundreds of thousands. Elon dismantled out of spite and stupidity programs that millions of people depended to survive and that costed absolutely peanuts to the taxpayer considering their effect. The fact he doesn’t engage in any philanthropy despite being a literal trillionaire (because his sci fi fantasies are good enough as a contribution to humanity probably) simply make him a cunt. The dismantling of USAID make him a mass murderer.
Musk does do philanthropy. Your belief he does none is a falsehood from your personal reality distortion field.
Normally murdering a mass of people is what makes someone a mass murderer.
There are people, allegedly, who wouldn't have had medicine at all, who had the privilege of having medicine yesterday and today, but won't have medicine tomorrow, because USAID gave them medicine but now doesn't. Let's think about the implications of that.
There are guaranteed to also be people who didn't have medicine yesterday, don't have it today, and won't have it tomorrow, that if YOU simply forked over money, got a job in an organization, or hopped on a plane and volunteered (or all 3 of the above), would have medicine today and tomorrow and therefore survive. They are dying because you don't do that. You could do that at any time and stop them from dying.
You think if the US government does something it's sacrosanct. That is where we differ. I have faith that there will be no shortage of charitable billionaires, especially leftist ones, and random moral superiors like yourself to pitch in and take the reins, pick up the slack left by USAID. They wouldn't just let good causes like this rot.
On July 07 2026 15:17 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Are you entirely devoid of compassion and totally heartless in real life or is it an act you put here not to look like a complete tool to have supported those morons for years?
A French citizen thinks my government has to spend my grandchildren's tax dollars on international charity and if it doesn't that makes Elon Musk a mass murderer. Incredibly weird. Somehow France doesn't have $20 billion. Somehow USAID was not guilty of mass murdering millions more people that die every year that it doesn't save. It was saving the exact maximum amount of savable people.
Insecticidal nets are $2. Prove what a better person than everyone you are.
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On July 07 2026 13:58 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2026 13:33 KwarK wrote:On July 07 2026 13:31 oBlade wrote:On July 07 2026 04:09 LightSpectra wrote:
Yeah Jankisa, why don't you just take a $20b loan from the government to fund US AID after it was illegally impeded by Elon Musk? Are you stupid? You can save a life for far less than $20b. Ergo, even if you have far less than $20b, take what you have, divide it by the cost to save a life and the result is the number of people you are personally killing, just like Elon Musk personally killed hundreds of thousands of people. millions. it’s millions. Yes my mistake. At a market rate of $20b saving the lives of millions, Elon Musk is right now personally killing at least 50 million people by not turning his $1 trillion fortune into mosquito nets. He is essentially the Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot of the 21st century. Not to let beloved mogul Oprah off the hook whose measly few billion she's hoarded is also murdering hundreds of thousands.
No, he ballpark cost to save one person’s life through the global health programs funded by Bill Gates typically ranges from $118 to about $4,500.
Him and his ex wife, over the 30 + years of philanthropy (actual philanthropy, not giving a few billion to your foundations) saved estimated 150 million people.
Most of Musk's philanthropy is transferring Tesla stocks to his own foundation that doesn't spend it.
If we extrapolated how wildly rich he is, if he was a normal human being with empathy, the opportunity cost of him being just like you, a heartless fascist is much more then the 150 million lost lives, especially since he actively killed hundreds of thousands by gutting USAID programs for no reason, which will cause more deaths down the line.
Combined with him not even trying to pretend to care about people and donate to maximize impact on humanity he's one of the most malicious humans put on earth.
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United States44398 Posts
On July 07 2026 16:27 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2026 15:17 Biff The Understudy wrote:On July 07 2026 13:58 oBlade wrote:On July 07 2026 13:33 KwarK wrote:On July 07 2026 13:31 oBlade wrote:On July 07 2026 04:09 LightSpectra wrote:
Yeah Jankisa, why don't you just take a $20b loan from the government to fund US AID after it was illegally impeded by Elon Musk? Are you stupid? You can save a life for far less than $20b. Ergo, even if you have far less than $20b, take what you have, divide it by the cost to save a life and the result is the number of people you are personally killing, just like Elon Musk personally killed hundreds of thousands of people. millions. it’s millions. Yes my mistake. At a market rate of $20b saving the lives of millions, Elon Musk is right now personally killing at least 50 million people by not turning his $1 trillion fortune into mosquito nets. He is essentially the Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot of the 21st century. Not to let beloved mogul Oprah off the hook whose measly few billion she's hoarded is also murdering hundreds of thousands. Elon dismantled out of spite and stupidity programs that millions of people depended to survive and that costed absolutely peanuts to the taxpayer considering their effect. The fact he doesn’t engage in any philanthropy despite being a literal trillionaire (because his sci fi fantasies are good enough as a contribution to humanity probably) simply make him a cunt. The dismantling of USAID make him a mass murderer. Musk does do philanthropy. Your belief he does none is a falsehood from your personal reality distortion field.
Elon famously offered to end world hunger if the UN World Food Program could say exactly how they’d spend the money and what the impact would be. After they produced a plan meeting his criteria not only did he not give them the $6b he said he would, he spent the money on political influence to take funding away from them.
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It's absolutely wild, since oBlade denied he's a Republican and a conservative, I think the only logical conclusion is that he's simply a misanthrope and a nihilist who thinks as many humans should die as possible.
I've never read anything positive he wrote, he looks at the world and sees nothing but misery, he interprets everything through the lens of money and crime, anyone benefiting from his tax money is abhorrent to him, it seems like such a miserable way of going through life.
And apparently his favorite pass time is to try to attack others for not being as virtuous as a straw man he constructed, a straw man who is a great person, but quite inefficient in helping people.
I'm not a great person, I could do much, much more to help others, but I can guarantee you that as a % of my net worth I have donated orders of magnitude more money to help others then Elon Musk, and given this horrific attitude and approach to life oBlade has, it's pretty safe to assume the ratio between him and basically anyone who he attacks in this thread is infinity, because this kind of aggressively misanthropic person hasn't helped a soul in his life.
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On July 07 2026 13:58 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2026 13:33 KwarK wrote:On July 07 2026 13:31 oBlade wrote:On July 07 2026 04:09 LightSpectra wrote:
Yeah Jankisa, why don't you just take a $20b loan from the government to fund US AID after it was illegally impeded by Elon Musk? Are you stupid? You can save a life for far less than $20b. Ergo, even if you have far less than $20b, take what you have, divide it by the cost to save a life and the result is the number of people you are personally killing, just like Elon Musk personally killed hundreds of thousands of people. millions. it’s millions. Yes my mistake. At a market rate of $20b saving the lives of millions, Elon Musk is right now personally killing at least 50 million people by not turning his $1 trillion fortune into mosquito nets. He is essentially the Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot of the 21st century. Not to let beloved mogul Oprah off the hook whose measly few billion she's hoarded is also murdering hundreds of thousands.
When did Oprah illegally impound government funds that resulted in children starving to death?
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On July 07 2026 18:56 Jankisa wrote:
It's absolutely wild, since oBlade denied he's a Republican and a conservative, I think the only logical conclusion is that he's simply a misanthrope and a nihilist who thinks as many humans should die as possible.
I've never read anything positive he wrote, he looks at the world and sees nothing but misery, he interprets everything through the lens of money and crime, anyone benefiting from his tax money is abhorrent to him, it seems like such a miserable way of going through life.
And apparently his favorite pass time is to try to attack others for not being as virtuous as a straw man he constructed, a straw man who is a great person, but quite inefficient in helping people.
I'm not a great person, I could do much, much more to help others, but I can guarantee you that as a % of my net worth I have donated orders of magnitude more money to help others then Elon Musk, and given this horrific attitude and approach to life oBlade has, it's pretty safe to assume the ratio between him and basically anyone who he attacks in this thread is infinity, because this kind of aggressively misanthropic person hasn't helped a soul in his life.
Aye there comes a point when a cynical dedication to pointing out ostensible hypocrisy and lack of impetus or effort from others leaves you missing the forest for the trees.
It’s not even merely that Musk could be doing a bit more to help with his wealth, it’s that he uses that leverage to make things actively worse for many people.
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On July 07 2026 19:41 LightSpectra wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2026 13:58 oBlade wrote:On July 07 2026 13:33 KwarK wrote:On July 07 2026 13:31 oBlade wrote:On July 07 2026 04:09 LightSpectra wrote:
Yeah Jankisa, why don't you just take a $20b loan from the government to fund US AID after it was illegally impeded by Elon Musk? Are you stupid? You can save a life for far less than $20b. Ergo, even if you have far less than $20b, take what you have, divide it by the cost to save a life and the result is the number of people you are personally killing, just like Elon Musk personally killed hundreds of thousands of people. millions. it’s millions. Yes my mistake. At a market rate of $20b saving the lives of millions, Elon Musk is right now personally killing at least 50 million people by not turning his $1 trillion fortune into mosquito nets. He is essentially the Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot of the 21st century. Not to let beloved mogul Oprah off the hook whose measly few billion she's hoarded is also murdering hundreds of thousands. When did Oprah illegally impound government funds that resulted in children starving to death? On July 07 2026 19:56 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2026 18:56 Jankisa wrote:
It's absolutely wild, since oBlade denied he's a Republican and a conservative, I think the only logical conclusion is that he's simply a misanthrope and a nihilist who thinks as many humans should die as possible.
I've never read anything positive he wrote, he looks at the world and sees nothing but misery, he interprets everything through the lens of money and crime, anyone benefiting from his tax money is abhorrent to him, it seems like such a miserable way of going through life.
And apparently his favorite pass time is to try to attack others for not being as virtuous as a straw man he constructed, a straw man who is a great person, but quite inefficient in helping people.
I'm not a great person, I could do much, much more to help others, but I can guarantee you that as a % of my net worth I have donated orders of magnitude more money to help others then Elon Musk, and given this horrific attitude and approach to life oBlade has, it's pretty safe to assume the ratio between him and basically anyone who he attacks in this thread is infinity, because this kind of aggressively misanthropic person hasn't helped a soul in his life. Aye there comes a point when a cynical dedication to pointing out ostensible hypocrisy and lack of impetus or effort from others leaves you missing the forest for the trees. It’s not even merely that Musk could be doing a bit more to help with his wealth, it’s that he uses that leverage to make things actively worse for many people.
Good points. oBlade was wrongfully concluding that another rich person (especially a liberal/independent woman of color, both political sides are surely equally to blame, blah blah blah conservative / Republican / MAGA talking points) ought to be considered just as culpable as Elon Musk, which is obviously not true based on Musk's active harm working with Trump.
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On July 07 2026 16:27 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2026 15:17 Biff The Understudy wrote:On July 07 2026 13:58 oBlade wrote:On July 07 2026 13:33 KwarK wrote:On July 07 2026 13:31 oBlade wrote:On July 07 2026 04:09 LightSpectra wrote:
Yeah Jankisa, why don't you just take a $20b loan from the government to fund US AID after it was illegally impeded by Elon Musk? Are you stupid? You can save a life for far less than $20b. Ergo, even if you have far less than $20b, take what you have, divide it by the cost to save a life and the result is the number of people you are personally killing, just like Elon Musk personally killed hundreds of thousands of people. millions. it’s millions. Yes my mistake. At a market rate of $20b saving the lives of millions, Elon Musk is right now personally killing at least 50 million people by not turning his $1 trillion fortune into mosquito nets. He is essentially the Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot of the 21st century. Not to let beloved mogul Oprah off the hook whose measly few billion she's hoarded is also murdering hundreds of thousands. Elon dismantled out of spite and stupidity programs that millions of people depended to survive and that costed absolutely peanuts to the taxpayer considering their effect. The fact he doesn’t engage in any philanthropy despite being a literal trillionaire (because his sci fi fantasies are good enough as a contribution to humanity probably) simply make him a cunt. The dismantling of USAID make him a mass murderer. Musk does do philanthropy. Your belief he does none is a falsehood from your personal reality distortion field. Normally murdering a mass of people is what makes someone a mass murderer. There are people, allegedly, who wouldn't have had medicine at all, who had the privilege of having medicine yesterday and today, but won't have medicine tomorrow, because USAID gave them medicine but now doesn't. Let's think about the implications of that. There are guaranteed to also be people who didn't have medicine yesterday, don't have it today, and won't have it tomorrow, that if YOU simply forked over money, got a job in an organization, or hopped on a plane and volunteered (or all 3 of the above), would have medicine today and tomorrow and therefore survive. They are dying because you don't do that. You could do that at any time and stop them from dying. You think if the US government does something it's sacrosanct. That is where we differ. I have faith that there will be no shortage of charitable billionaires, especially leftist ones, and random moral superiors like yourself to pitch in and take the reins, pick up the slack left by USAID. They wouldn't just let good causes like this rot. Show nested quote +On July 07 2026 15:17 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Are you entirely devoid of compassion and totally heartless in real life or is it an act you put here not to look like a complete tool to have supported those morons for years? A French citizen thinks my government has to spend my grandchildren's tax dollars on international charity and if it doesn't that makes Elon Musk a mass murderer. Incredibly weird. Somehow France doesn't have $20 billion. Somehow USAID was not guilty of mass murdering millions more people that die every year that it doesn't save. It was saving the exact maximum amount of savable people. Insecticidal nets are $2. Prove what a better person than everyone you are.
US aids budget was 20-40 billions per year and was saving hundreds of thousands of lives a year.
The little war in Iran from the twat you voted for has costed more than 100 billions dollars for the net result of strengthening the grip of the regime and fucking the world economy up.
Your grand children will already suffer the consequences of your deplorable choices enough that you don’t have to worry about the fraction of the us budget that was spelt on saving people from disease and starvation.
Elon does jack shit philanthropy. There is no Musk foundation building hospitals, fighting tropical diseases or helping with education for the poorest people.
I live and pay my taxes in Norway, and we spend proportionally far more than you guys ever did in international aid. And no one i know here is enough of a twat to lament that their grand children tax money is spent saving African kids from aids and malaria.
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