|
Now that we have a new thread, in order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a complete and thorough read before posting! NOTE: When providing a source, please provide a very brief summary on what it's about and what purpose it adds to the discussion. The supporting statement should clearly explain why the subject is relevant and needs to be discussed. Please follow this rule especially for tweets.
Your supporting statement should always come BEFORE you provide the source.If you have any questions, comments, concern, or feedback regarding the USPMT, then please use this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/website-feedback/510156-us-politics-thread |
On June 12 2026 02:56 dyhb wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2026 02:45 EnDeR_ wrote:On June 12 2026 02:00 dyhb wrote:
I'm happy that the vulnerability was discovered when it was just one yahoo with her dog bragging about it on social media. Much like it should be no comfort that a hacker was caught and prosecuted after a successful hack of a website, it should be no comfort that she was found through no investigation, and her dog was successfully registered, his/her vote counted in an election, and he/she continued to receive dog-mail in ballots up to the time that owner disclosed the crime on social media.
Let's fight back against conspiracy theorists recruiting others about insecure elections and illegal schemes taking advantage of them, by never noting how easy this crime was to accomplish. My big problem with this thread, or Americans in this thread, is the failure to apply common sense to how people read news stories like that. It's some kind of bubble that reads that and thinks "It's just one woman, so not worth my time." The common sense approach is to tackle the spread of conspiracy theories at the source. You gonna get the president banned off social media again, or something? Declare a national emergency related to the spread of conspiracy theories and suspend civil rights? I don’t think the tools you have at your disposal on this are that powerful.
As approaches go to reduce the spread of conspiracy theories, I would classify these about as effective as making California count their votes a little faster.
We are certainly due some serious legislating around social media use, currently the top spreading vector for conspiracy theories.
|
On June 12 2026 02:00 hitthat wrote:
Your president completely lost the plot with that comment about taking control of iranian oil. I feel ashamed just by reading this and i'm not even American.
I've never been more deeply ashamed of my country and my countrymen as I've been these past few years. "One day, everyone will have always been against this" is little consolation.
|
On June 12 2026 04:02 Falling wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2026 02:56 dyhb wrote:On June 12 2026 02:45 EnDeR_ wrote:On June 12 2026 02:00 dyhb wrote:
I'm happy that the vulnerability was discovered when it was just one yahoo with her dog bragging about it on social media. Much like it should be no comfort that a hacker was caught and prosecuted after a successful hack of a website, it should be no comfort that she was found through no investigation, and her dog was successfully registered, his/her vote counted in an election, and he/she continued to receive dog-mail in ballots up to the time that owner disclosed the crime on social media.
Let's fight back against conspiracy theorists recruiting others about insecure elections and illegal schemes taking advantage of them, by never noting how easy this crime was to accomplish. My big problem with this thread, or Americans in this thread, is the failure to apply common sense to how people read news stories like that. It's some kind of bubble that reads that and thinks "It's just one woman, so not worth my time." The common sense approach is to tackle the spread of conspiracy theories at the source. You gonna get the president banned off social media again, or something? Declare a national emergency related to the spread of conspiracy theories and suspend civil rights? I don’t think the tools you have at your disposal on this are that powerful. Trump wasn't banned simply for spreading conspiracy theories though. He was banned after he tried to seize power for himself. And yeah, I think if president is trying to forcibly take control of the Republic with his supporters, I think limiting his ability to coordinate and foment insurrection is a reasonable response. Isn't that one of the first targets in a successful coup d'etat? Seize the means of communications? To protect against it, the same would apply. In the context of anybody that says "tackle the spread of conspiracy theories at the source," I'd like to know what that means. It's a little tough in a free society with very limited speech restrictions to talk of attacking the source. That's one of the reasons why I'm talking about limiting the spread via other means.
|
On June 12 2026 04:25 EnDeR_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2026 02:56 dyhb wrote:On June 12 2026 02:45 EnDeR_ wrote:On June 12 2026 02:00 dyhb wrote:
I'm happy that the vulnerability was discovered when it was just one yahoo with her dog bragging about it on social media. Much like it should be no comfort that a hacker was caught and prosecuted after a successful hack of a website, it should be no comfort that she was found through no investigation, and her dog was successfully registered, his/her vote counted in an election, and he/she continued to receive dog-mail in ballots up to the time that owner disclosed the crime on social media.
Let's fight back against conspiracy theorists recruiting others about insecure elections and illegal schemes taking advantage of them, by never noting how easy this crime was to accomplish. My big problem with this thread, or Americans in this thread, is the failure to apply common sense to how people read news stories like that. It's some kind of bubble that reads that and thinks "It's just one woman, so not worth my time." The common sense approach is to tackle the spread of conspiracy theories at the source. You gonna get the president banned off social media again, or something? Declare a national emergency related to the spread of conspiracy theories and suspend civil rights? I don’t think the tools you have at your disposal on this are that powerful. + Show Spoiler +
As approaches go to reduce the spread of conspiracy theories, I would classify these about as effective as making California count their votes a little faster.
We are certainly due some serious legislating around social media use, currently the top spreading vector for conspiracy theories.
I suppose if everyone that wants that just hops on the Hamster Wheel + Show Spoiler +1. There's a problem
2. Politicians won't fix it
3. Need to replace the politicians with ones that will
4. Can't replace the politicians because of how the system works
5. Need to fix the system
6. Politicians won't fix it (because it benefits them)
7. Repeat ad nauseam.
|
On June 12 2026 04:02 Falling wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2026 02:56 dyhb wrote:On June 12 2026 02:45 EnDeR_ wrote:On June 12 2026 02:00 dyhb wrote:
I'm happy that the vulnerability was discovered when it was just one yahoo with her dog bragging about it on social media. Much like it should be no comfort that a hacker was caught and prosecuted after a successful hack of a website, it should be no comfort that she was found through no investigation, and her dog was successfully registered, his/her vote counted in an election, and he/she continued to receive dog-mail in ballots up to the time that owner disclosed the crime on social media.
Let's fight back against conspiracy theorists recruiting others about insecure elections and illegal schemes taking advantage of them, by never noting how easy this crime was to accomplish. My big problem with this thread, or Americans in this thread, is the failure to apply common sense to how people read news stories like that. It's some kind of bubble that reads that and thinks "It's just one woman, so not worth my time." The common sense approach is to tackle the spread of conspiracy theories at the source. You gonna get the president banned off social media again, or something? Declare a national emergency related to the spread of conspiracy theories and suspend civil rights? I don’t think the tools you have at your disposal on this are that powerful. Trump wasn't banned simply for spreading conspiracy theories though. He was banned after he tried to seize power for himself. And yeah, I think if president is trying to forcibly take control of the Republic with his supporters, I think limiting his ability to coordinate and foment insurrection is a reasonable response. Isn't that one of the first targets in a successful coup d'etat? Seize the means of communications? To protect against it, the same would apply.
Trump gives the impression of someone who'd main pudge in dota. It's his M.O.
Exploiting asymmetric information flows definitely seems one of the to-go toolkits that spawned out of social media.
Dismantling NATO seems more like a demand from Russia than an idea of his.
To control the oil in Iran he still needs to occupy it, like the means of communication here (it might be the better alternative tbh).
|
United States44056 Posts
On June 12 2026 04:26 LightSpectra wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2026 02:00 hitthat wrote:
Your president completely lost the plot with that comment about taking control of iranian oil. I feel ashamed just by reading this and i'm not even American. I've never been more deeply ashamed of my country and my countrymen as I've been these past few years. "One day, everyone will have always been against this" is little consolation.
If it's any consolation by the time you posted this he'd already backed down and said there was no need to seize the oil because the deal was agreed.
|
On June 12 2026 05:18 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2026 04:26 LightSpectra wrote:On June 12 2026 02:00 hitthat wrote:
Your president completely lost the plot with that comment about taking control of iranian oil. I feel ashamed just by reading this and i'm not even American. I've never been more deeply ashamed of my country and my countrymen as I've been these past few years. "One day, everyone will have always been against this" is little consolation. If it's any consolation by the time you posted this he'd already backed down and said there was no need to seize the oil because the deal was agreed.
Iran doesn’t sound as sure, and Israel was surprised. So it looks like we will be at time 54 where trump is wrong. But who knows maybe this will finally be the time he’s right and they sign a deal way worse for the us than the one they tore up.
|
Northern Ireland26983 Posts
On June 12 2026 04:36 dyhb wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2026 04:02 Falling wrote:On June 12 2026 02:56 dyhb wrote:On June 12 2026 02:45 EnDeR_ wrote:On June 12 2026 02:00 dyhb wrote:
I'm happy that the vulnerability was discovered when it was just one yahoo with her dog bragging about it on social media. Much like it should be no comfort that a hacker was caught and prosecuted after a successful hack of a website, it should be no comfort that she was found through no investigation, and her dog was successfully registered, his/her vote counted in an election, and he/she continued to receive dog-mail in ballots up to the time that owner disclosed the crime on social media.
Let's fight back against conspiracy theorists recruiting others about insecure elections and illegal schemes taking advantage of them, by never noting how easy this crime was to accomplish. My big problem with this thread, or Americans in this thread, is the failure to apply common sense to how people read news stories like that. It's some kind of bubble that reads that and thinks "It's just one woman, so not worth my time." The common sense approach is to tackle the spread of conspiracy theories at the source. You gonna get the president banned off social media again, or something? Declare a national emergency related to the spread of conspiracy theories and suspend civil rights? I don’t think the tools you have at your disposal on this are that powerful. Trump wasn't banned simply for spreading conspiracy theories though. He was banned after he tried to seize power for himself. And yeah, I think if president is trying to forcibly take control of the Republic with his supporters, I think limiting his ability to coordinate and foment insurrection is a reasonable response. Isn't that one of the first targets in a successful coup d'etat? Seize the means of communications? To protect against it, the same would apply. In the context of anybody that says "tackle the spread of conspiracy theories at the source," I'd like to know what that means. It's a little tough in a free society with very limited speech restrictions to talk of attacking the source. That's one of the reasons why I'm talking about limiting the spread via other means.
It’s tough indeed.
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
