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KT_Elwood
Germany1086 Posts
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LightSpectra
United States1879 Posts
Republicans are predictably not going to condemn her for calling for more bloodshed than literal Nazi Germany. | ||
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KT_Elwood
Germany1086 Posts
Maybe take the fuses out of the nukes for the rest of the world? | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15725 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18119 Posts
On July 03 2025 03:45 KT_Elwood wrote: Does Baron Trump need to be deported since he was born to an immigrant mother? Obvious anchor baby. The reporter in chief needs to chuck him on the first flight back to Sokovia! | ||
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Hat Trick of Today
142 Posts
On July 03 2025 03:45 KT_Elwood wrote: Does Baron Trump need to be deported since he was born to an immigrant mother? I know you’re being facetious here but absolutely not because this is the late Roman Republican baby. Where the only thing that matters are your connections and wealth. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15725 Posts
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Hat Trick of Today
142 Posts
On July 02 2025 23:35 Simberto wrote: No, there are quite a few idiots who want this. Don't pin this exclusively on Trump. This was one of his major selling points on campaign, so i assume that a lot of the people who voted for trump didn't do this despite of this, but because of it. Just like the age old mantra “the only just abortion is my abortion”, Americans have the exact same view with regards to immigration. Especially illegal immigration. Business owners love and want to keep Antonio the Baker who works 12 hour days in New York City and hasn’t missed a single day in the 20 years he’s lived in the USA but those lazy good for nothing troublemakers down in Colorado who are depressing wages for hard working Americans? Unfortunately those people have to go. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14047 Posts
He, thank God, was separated from the gang members as the staff was able to identity that he was not a gang member and none of the tattoos identified him as one. Still was threatened to be sent into a cell with gang members. The BBB is currently in another important vote atm. Johnson has said hes going to keep it open until it sucseeds but for an hour now hes got 5 no's and can only lose 3. | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8641 Posts
On July 02 2025 22:19 LightSpectra wrote: Over a hundred billion dollars for ICE in the spending bill is pretty wild. Guess we're going to have an armored van at every polling booth come election day. The budget gives $175 billion to immigration enforcement. “The orders of magnitude are going to be multiplied,” immigration experts say.@TheIntercept Masked immigration enforcers have swept through American cities in the months since President Donald Trump took office, using flash bangs during restaurant sweeps, slamming people’s heads into the ground, violently arresting gardeners on video, and provoking mass protests against their raids. This may only be the beginning. The massive Senate budget bill, which passed on Tuesday and awaits a final House vote, gives Donald Trump’s administration the money to rapidly ramp up mass deportation to unprecedented levels, according to immigration experts. U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement will have a budget for more officers than the FBI. The nation’s immigration detention centers will have more funding than the federal Bureau of Prisons. There may be only one limit on how fast the Trump administration can spend: how quickly it can hire. “It is hard for people to imagine what immigration enforcement is going to look like once all this money goes,” said Daniel Costa, the director of immigration law and policy research at the Economic Policy Institute, a left-leaning nonprofit think tank. “It already looks really bad and scary, like we’re turning into a police state and surveillance state. The orders of magnitude are going to be multiplied.” well... what is there to say? 175. billion. dollars. inflation and all aside - that seems an excessive amount of money for a now ever growing army of masked thugs looking inwards to "reach deportation quotas". sickening. "just following orders" is not good enough in a country priding itself on its long tradition of the rule of law. alas it was swapped to "law and order" by the cruelest and dumbest "showmanship" admin, unbearably sickening. | ||
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EnDeR_
Spain2774 Posts
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Doublemint
Austria8641 Posts
On July 03 2025 17:34 EnDeR_ wrote: He's doing what he said he would do. Lower taxes on the rich and deport millions of immigrants. He was very vocal about it, this is what the majority of Americans (that actually voted) wanted. while he most definitely said it, hindsight is always 20/20, politicians tell a lot of things on the campaign trail. Trump is the ultimate bullshitter and simply unbeaten in this discipline. US #1 in this regard. however there's also a good chance it is also a sign of me being de sensitized by the usual PR speak that is just way too common nowadays. Trump also said he would win the trade/tariff war - easily. and yet here we are. things are reaching a dangerous tipping point on this front though. the "Alligator Alcatraz" press conference yesterday was bonkers. if a Democrat said a fraction of the unhinged and demented shit... Fox News hosts would personally storm the Capitol Building. from threatening arrest for Mamdani to getting "dangerous Americans out of the country". such words from the highest office very quickly stop being a joke. namely when the jokester uttering them takes them seriously and funds a loyal army led by sycophantic ICE barbie Noem and rabid anti-migrant baldie Steven Miller. taking the culture war to the streets - war against other cultures. and potentially making it a real one. | ||
KwarK
United States43232 Posts
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EnDeR_
Spain2774 Posts
On July 03 2025 18:14 Doublemint wrote: while he most definitely said it, hindsight is always 20/20, politicians tell a lot of things on the campaign trail. Trump is the ultimate bullshitter and simply unbeaten in this discipline. US #1 in this regard. however there's also a good chance it is also a sign of me being de sensitized by the usual PR speak that is just way too common nowadays. Trump also said he would win the trade/tariff war - easily. and yet here we are. things are reaching a dangerous tipping point on this front though. the "Alligator Alcatraz" press conference yesterday was bonkers. if a Democrat said a fraction of the unhinged and demented shit... Fox News hosts would personally storm the Capitol Building. from threatening arrest for Mamdani to getting "dangerous Americans out of the country". such words from the highest office very quickly stop being a joke. namely when the jokester uttering them takes them seriously and funds a loyal army led by sycophantic ICE barbie Noem and rabid anti-migrant baldie Steven Miller. taking the culture war to the streets - war against other cultures. and potentially making it a real one. Winning/losing, fixing/destroying doesn't really come into it, that part of it is always bluster. I mean, even in your example, he did exactly what he said he was going to do, i. e. Start a trade/tariff war. He said he was going to demolish the regulatory framework and kill the EV market, and he is doing that as well. I mean, what examples can you find of stuff he said he was going to do that he isn't actually doing? I don't mean vague stuff like "draining the swamp" -- I mean when he says he is going to do a specific thing, like deport millions of immigrants. | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8641 Posts
On July 03 2025 18:35 EnDeR_ wrote: Winning/losing, fixing/destroying doesn't really come into it, that part of it is always bluster. I mean, even in your example, he did exactly what he said he was going to do, i. e. Start a trade/tariff war. He said he was going to demolish the regulatory framework and kill the EV market, and he is doing that as well. I mean, what examples can you find of stuff he said he was going to do that he isn't actually doing? I don't mean vague stuff like "draining the swamp" -- I mean when he says he is going to do a specific thing, like deport millions of immigrants. Mexico pays for a wall - a wall he was going to build? as in thousands of miles of wall, not just a couple hundred miles and most of it was maintenance on the existing one. or very recently he said Medicaid will not be touched. 800+ billion in cuts say otherwise. I get your point, though trying is not doing, right? //edit: us arguing about the semantics is a very clear indicator of how - very unclear - the "success" was. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10809 Posts
It's not semantics... The people not believing what Trump and his cronies want to do and often allready tried to do during his first term are just willfully not listening because "it can't be that bad, can it?" or "someone will stop him/them from doing these things." These people are fools. | ||
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EnDeR_
Spain2774 Posts
On July 03 2025 19:00 Doublemint wrote: Mexico pays for a wall - a wall he was going to build? as in thousands of miles of wall, not just a couple hundred miles and most of it was maintenance on the existing one. or very recently he said Medicaid will not be touched. 800+ billion in cuts say otherwise. I get your point, though trying is not doing, right? //edit: us arguing about the semantics is a very clear indicator of how - very unclear - the "success" was. But that's the point. He didn't say a thing to get elected and then did something different when he got into power. The people that voted for him know that when he says he's going to do a thing, he will then try to do/start to do or just plain do the thing he said he was going to do. Sure, most of the time it's in the cruelest, most hamfisted way of going about it, but he is, for the most part, doing what he said he would do. | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8641 Posts
On July 03 2025 21:16 EnDeR_ wrote: But that's the point. He didn't say a thing to get elected and then did something different when he got into power. The people that voted for him know that when he says he's going to do a thing, he will then try to do/start to do or just plain do the thing he said he was going to do. Sure, most of the time it's in the cruelest, most hamfisted way of going about it, but he is, for the most part, doing what he said he would do. all the time? fixing health care - fixing the US debt - fixing the trade deficit. just 3 major ones off the top of my head. | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
On July 03 2025 21:16 EnDeR_ wrote: But that's the point. He didn't say a thing to get elected and then did something different when he got into power. The people that voted for him know that when he says he's going to do a thing, he will then try to do/start to do or just plain do the thing he said he was going to do. Sure, most of the time it's in the cruelest, most hamfisted way of going about it, but he is, for the most part, doing what he said he would do. I think it's quite simple. On the one hand Trump has promised to do certain evil things during his campaign - some of which he has accomplished, others he has attempted. On the other hand Trump has gaslit people into believing he wouldn't do other certain evil things - and here, too, he has accomplished some and attempted others. And I guess there's also the third component, as some people thought he just wouldn't do some of the evil things he has promised because it'd be stupid to do them - but they guessed wrong because Trump is in fact stupid/evil enough to do these things anyway. That's part of what makes a cult a cult. People are under a spell which causes their brains to permanently twist reality. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26036 Posts
But it’s pretty good. I’d be pretty happy with the conversion rate of campaign promise to action, if I supported those policies. Of course I don’t. | ||
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