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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
July 01 2025 22:03 GMT
#101481
Getting drive through, handing them my card, then being told the payment terminal "is gonna ask me a couple questions" before being shown "TIP 20%, TIP 25%, TIP 30%, NO TIP".

In Oregon we have a fast food place called "Burgerville". Kinda a local chain. A part of their union negotiations was to include a tipping option for all orders. It had existed for a year or 2 but recently finally got removed from everyone complaining. Being shamed into tipping for a burger via drive through was the straw that broke Oregon's back with this issue. Its the only example I can think of where tipping was removed.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24741 Posts
July 01 2025 22:11 GMT
#101482
Can someone photoshop or AI a tip jar on to a picture of the Resolute Desk?
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14047 Posts
July 02 2025 00:55 GMT
#101483
The most horrifying version of the future with this is that work transforms completely where workers in all industries become tipped. Work where everyone is paid based on the employers chosen productivity metrics and employees being tipped for "more productivity". Overtime doesn't functionally exist anymore because double time on $2.13 is only $4.13. Working past your 40 hours becomes perversely motivated and society suffers as a result.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9005 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-02 03:36:03
July 02 2025 03:35 GMT
#101484
On July 02 2025 07:11 micronesia wrote:
Can someone photoshop or AI a tip jar on to a picture of the Resolute Desk?

Does this work for you?

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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11632 Posts
July 02 2025 06:22 GMT
#101485
On July 02 2025 09:55 Sermokala wrote:
The most horrifying version of the future with this is that work transforms completely where workers in all industries become tipped. Work where everyone is paid based on the employers chosen productivity metrics and employees being tipped for "more productivity". Overtime doesn't functionally exist anymore because double time on $2.13 is only $4.13. Working past your 40 hours becomes perversely motivated and society suffers as a result.


Deliciously dystopian. "Sorry, we can't eat today, my employer decided that he was extremely productive and tipped himself a Porsche. Everyone else sadly wasn't productive enough, and the tip jar was empty."
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
July 02 2025 07:47 GMT
#101486
Bruh. UnitedHealth was the talk of 2024 and 2025. RFK Jr apparently fiddles his thumbs all day.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/GihMDyKnAzA
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1339 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-02 11:44:15
July 02 2025 11:42 GMT
#101487
On July 02 2025 15:22 Simberto wrote:
Deliciously dystopian. "Sorry, we can't eat today, my employer decided that he was extremely productive and tipped himself a Porsche. Everyone else sadly wasn't productive enough, and the tip jar was empty."

Isn't this just the way that pay rises have worked for the last half century?

We're already in the dystopia.
puking up frothing vitriolic sarcastic spittle
KT_Elwood
Profile Joined July 2015
Germany1086 Posts
July 02 2025 13:03 GMT
#101488
Only inherited wealth, a very good business idea or 2 generations of being wellpaid but not well spending employees gets you out of the churn now.
"First he eats our dogs, and then he taxes the penguins... Donald Trump truly is the Donald Trump of our generation. " -DPB
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States1879 Posts
July 02 2025 13:19 GMT
#101489
Over a hundred billion dollars for ICE in the spending bill is pretty wild. Guess we're going to have an armored van at every polling booth come election day.
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11632 Posts
July 02 2025 14:27 GMT
#101490
On July 02 2025 22:19 LightSpectra wrote:
Over a hundred billion dollars for ICE in the spending bill is pretty wild. Guess we're going to have an armored van at every polling booth come election day.


Gotta equip and pay your brownshirts.
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-02 14:33:03
July 02 2025 14:32 GMT
#101491
On July 02 2025 22:19 LightSpectra wrote:
Over a hundred billion dollars for ICE in the spending bill is pretty wild. Guess we're going to have an armored van at every polling booth come election day.


Plus the additional loss to the economy when the illegal migrants are gone. Could be several hundreds of billions of dollars wasted just to appease one single idiot at the top.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11632 Posts
July 02 2025 14:35 GMT
#101492
On July 02 2025 23:32 Magic Powers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2025 22:19 LightSpectra wrote:
Over a hundred billion dollars for ICE in the spending bill is pretty wild. Guess we're going to have an armored van at every polling booth come election day.


Plus the additional loss to the economy when the illegal migrants are gone. Could be several hundreds of billions of dollars wasted just to appease one single idiot at the top.


No, there are quite a few idiots who want this. Don't pin this exclusively on Trump. This was one of his major selling points on campaign, so i assume that a lot of the people who voted for trump didn't do this despite of this, but because of it.
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States1879 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-02 14:39:56
July 02 2025 14:39 GMT
#101493
A slim majority supports deporting "all the illegals," but that number plummets when you also ask "should documented immigrants have their visas terminated for no cause and then treated like criminals after that?"
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14047 Posts
July 02 2025 14:42 GMT
#101494
Yeah trump was very transparent about what he wanted to do and people explained how he was going to have to do to do those things. If you didn't think you were getting a president who would rather laugh outside the cages of his new concentration camp instead of going to the funeral for an assassinated politician thats on you at this point not trump.

People have had more than a decade to find out what kind of person trump is. Casually collecting bribes and selling merch isn't a surprise anymore it's just his brand.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21953 Posts
July 02 2025 14:56 GMT
#101495
On July 02 2025 23:39 LightSpectra wrote:
A slim majority supports deporting "all the illegals," but that number plummets when you also ask "should documented immigrants have their visas terminated for no cause and then treated like criminals after that?"
"I know the leopards said they would eat peoples faces but I just assumed bad people, not my nice neighbour."

I don't care they were to stupid to see this coming, they voted for this shit and until it happens to someone they personally care about they will be fine with it.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
July 02 2025 15:30 GMT
#101496
On July 02 2025 23:42 Sermokala wrote:
Yeah trump was very transparent about what he wanted to do and people explained how he was going to have to do to do those things. If you didn't think you were getting a president who would rather laugh outside the cages of his new concentration camp instead of going to the funeral for an assassinated politician thats on you at this point not trump.

People have had more than a decade to find out what kind of person trump is. Casually collecting bribes and selling merch isn't a surprise anymore it's just his brand.


I enjoy the duality.

People who insist they are totally smart and vote for Trump for entirely valid reasons will say they like Trump having tough messaging on a topic. Asked if they agree with what he says, they are quick to roll their eyes, smirk, and calmly explain its actually just political negotiation to redefine the conversation. Then when he does that thing, these totally reasonable trump voters explain how they themselves are a baboon and can't control how they react to democrat messaging or policies. They provide a detailed explanation how democrats have direct control over the thoughts and feelings of trump voters and are thus entirely responsible for the situation.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43232 Posts
July 02 2025 17:26 GMT
#101497
On July 02 2025 23:39 LightSpectra wrote:
A slim majority supports deporting "all the illegals," but that number plummets when you also ask "should documented immigrants have their visas terminated for no cause and then treated like criminals after that?"

For what it’s worth all illegal immigrants should be deported (humanely to their country of citizenship). There shouldn’t be a underclass of exploitable labourers without rights or legal recourse. If it turns out that the economy depends on their labour then that is something that should be dealt with by congress, not simply by failing to enforce laws. A common sense approach to illegal immigration cannot start “we’ll have one set of laws, another set of policies, and they should be wholly incompatible”.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5765 Posts
July 02 2025 17:32 GMT
#101498
On July 02 2025 22:19 LightSpectra wrote:
Over a hundred billion dollars for ICE in the spending bill is pretty wild. Guess we're going to have an armored van at every polling booth come election day.

Very few illegal immigrants vote so that would never be a significant venue for ICE enforcement.

Federal LEO is already able to share DOD assets so they don't need money for armored cars as much as for more officers, agents, and judges.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States1879 Posts
July 02 2025 17:45 GMT
#101499
Stormfront still acting like ICE is going to stop at immigrants is quaintly amusing.
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5765 Posts
July 02 2025 18:20 GMT
#101500
You read Stormfront?
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
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