US Politics Mega-thread - Page 3730

On July 16 2022 07:00 WombaT wrote:

What does the US actually gain for its basic unwavering support?

While I find many alliances of convenience morally questionable thru repugnant, there’s often at least some pragmatic thread running through them.

Israel being ‘America’s greatest ally’ seems absurdly skewed in terms of where the benefits of said alliance are

On July 12 2022 16:50 Sermokala wrote:
That's an inane take. Electing more progressives means that the Democrats become more progressive. That they need more progressive ideas in the party to appeal to the part of the party that is actually on the left. Nothing is going to change unless you change something and having someone on one end pull things like the squad allows the conservative dems to remain conservative while allowing them to move left relatively.

On July 16 2022 07:00 WombaT wrote:

What does the US actually gain for its basic unwavering support?

While I find many alliances of convenience morally questionable thru repugnant, there’s often at least some pragmatic thread running through them.

Israel being ‘America’s greatest ally’ seems absurdly skewed in terms of where the benefits of said alliance are

On July 16 2022 11:50 StasisField wrote:
Remember when conservatives in this thread told us that obviously there were going to be exceptions made for ectopic pregnancies? Well, hospital administrators in Texas are now preventing doctors from giving care to patients with ectopic pregnancies and other complications, for fear of breaking state law.



https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Texas-abortion-law-hospitals-clinic-medication-17307401.php?t=61d7f0b189

In this chapter:
(1)“Abortion” means the act of using or prescribing an instrument, a drug, a medicine, or any other substance, device, or means with the intent to cause the death of an unborn child of a woman known to be pregnant. The term does not include birth control devices or oral contraceptives. An act is not an abortion if the act is done with the intent to:
(A)save the life or preserve the health of an unborn child;
(B)remove a dead, unborn child whose death was caused by spontaneous abortion; or
(C)remove an ectopic pregnancy.

(2)“Abortion facility” means a place where abortions are performed.
(3)Repealed by Acts 2015, 84th Leg., R.S., Ch. 1, Sec. 3.1639(62), eff. April 2, 2015.
(4)“Department” means the Department of State Health Services.
(4-a)“Ectopic pregnancy” means the implantation of a fertilized egg or embryo outside of the uterus.
(4-b)“Executive commissioner” means the executive commissioner of the Health and Human Services Commission.
(5)“Patient” means a female on whom an abortion is performed, but does not include a fetus.
(6)“Person” means an individual, firm, partnership, corporation, or association.

On July 16 2022 08:32 FeatherPlanes wrote:


There is a significant and stark divide between the perceived reality of urban centers, suburban, exurban, and rural areas. You cannot get enough progressives into government because the siloing of political discourse and inequity of representation makes it so. There are countless academic reports about how the urban car-centric development of the United States was an intentional effort to create isolated and selfish communities that are extremely easily to manipulate politically. And that's not even talking about the general media landscape.

Progressives, like "The Squad", are stuck in 100% urban safe seats (OK MO1 is technically 99% urban) but urban regions are woefully underrepresented and are also victim to insane gerrymandering in Republican majority states.

You can only pull things so far left because Republicans are more than happy to give Cori Bush and Emanuel Cleaver their seats, even making sure Emanuel Cleaver's seat is extra safe too. They want to give Democrats their fiefdoms because that ensures Democrats have absolutely zero avenue to take MO2, the last remaining seat that was within Democrat grasp.

This introduces problems for all Federal Democrats because the constituent makeup of Cori Bush's seat and a rural Democratic seat are on completely different planets. Like not even remotely close. Cori Bush can say her shit but a Democrat in a rural seat can't move that way since the public have siloed themselves politically. How do rural Democrats move when they have to field questions on why they're not taking out this serial baby murderer representing a place they couldn't even name? And vice versa, though easier for 100% urban Democrat seats because they're like +30D or greater.

I have zero love for conservative Democrats but its a hopeless game because the Republicans know what they're doing and they're absolutely crushing at ensuring minority rule. The solution to this was to not let it get to this point in the first place and let the rot completely set in. Its taken like four/five decades for Republicans to do this but they've finally removed enough of the foundations of the American political and civic system that everything is basically crumbling down all at once. Its really a bit too late to start asking for more progressives to get elected because they really needed to do that decades ago.



A lot of American political behaviour is not rational. The recent wave of vicious transphobic and anti-abortion legislation should be enough proof of this because the actual thought process behind the laws are based on complete falsehoods and strawmen.

If you were to ask some certain groups of Southern Baptists, for instance, they might tell you the gathering of Jews in Israel is a sign of the impending arrival of the Kingdom of Heaven. Others are philosemitic and see Israel as the only bright spot in a region of rights-hating heathens (i.e. racist).

If you are in either group, you really do not see things in a rational economic or geopolitical manner because how could you? In fact, you would probably believe the benefits of the alliance significantly favour yourself and the overall human race.