EPTThis defense attorney is flailing helplessly in trying to create reasonable doubt by questioning these expert medical witnesses.
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
This defense attorney is flailing helplessly in trying to create reasonable doubt by questioning these expert medical witnesses. | ||
KwarK
United States44382 Posts
On April 12 2021 22:29 Liquid`Drone wrote: I'm guessing non-trumpy republicans generally like the foreign policy results, even if they don't approve of his incompetence. Even I can state being pleasantly surprised by his foreign policy, although in my case that's because I expected a bigger disaster, not that I'm really happy with anything. Then they're also happy with tax cuts, and obviously with the judges. Then the further towards crazy terrain you go, republicans are increasingly happy about his war on the media. This is weird to me because Trump’s foreign policy mostly consisted of arguing with the entire military establishment about why the post war American hegemony needs to exist. Conservatives usually worship that establishment and love that the USA is a global superpower. Trump’s foreign policy runs contrary to every American government since Hoover and actively undermined 100 years of alliance building. I don’t think any conservative who thinks they approve of what Trump did actually understands what he did. There’s a reason his top generals kept resigning in protest. On the foreign policy front it’s not even a conservative vs liberal divide, both sides were in complete agreement on US membership in NATO until Trump made up a narrative about how people were taking advantage of the US. Both sides were in agreement that when American military might is primarily being used as a deterrent it’s a really bad idea for the President to suggest that America may not honour treaty obligations if an ally were attacked. The tax cuts were just stimulus, they were paid for with deficit spending. An expansion of big government subsidies through borrowing with the favoured interests of the government getting the biggest windfalls while working Americans got screwed. Trump campaigned on ending the deficit/national debt. I say both because he used them interchangeably and variously referred to ending both and it wasn’t clear that he knew that one was the annual budget shortfall and the other was the total accumulation of decades of the former. Although when asked about paying back 20T of national debt in one term his campaign did say that that was what they meant and suggested that they could auction off the national parks to China so who can really say. All we know is that Trump borrowed more and increased the deficit by more than any President in history. Conservatives like to talk about Venezuela a lot while borrowing their economic policies, borrow all you can, mortgage the future, give all that borrowed government money to in groups while ignoring the people. It’s the shit that causes people to say that American conservatives have no values. For most of my life they’ve been endlessly repeating what their values were and then the first time some fascist shows up spouting racist bullshit they betray every one of them. The Republicans are the party of big government deficit spending to subsidize failing industries and somehow they’re all fine with that. | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8760 Posts
All we know is that Trump borrowed more and increased the deficit by more than any President in history. I would like to add that it already started way before covid and while the economy was booming. that is kind of an achievement in itself. and I would like to remind people how on the campaign trail he proudly spouted - naturally nonsensically - "about how he would easily get rid of the debt within 8 years". not the deficit, all the 20 something big Ts it used to be in 2015/16. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14211 Posts
On April 13 2021 01:30 Stratos_speAr wrote: Watching the Chauvin trial and this is painful. This defense attorney is flailing helplessly in trying to create reasonable doubt by questioning these expert medical witnesses. I mean in a state where the cops mistake pulling guns when they intend to pull a taser its not that unreasonable. https://www.twincities.com/2021/04/12/police-minnesota-officer-meant-to-draw-taser-not-handgun/ This literally happened yesterday. | ||
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NrG.Bamboo
United States2756 Posts
On April 13 2021 01:30 Stratos_speAr wrote: Watching the Chauvin trial and this is painful. This defense attorney is flailing helplessly in trying to create reasonable doubt by questioning these expert medical witnesses. I'm curious to see how it will flow once defense witnesses become involved. I think the state is almost done with theirs. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28910 Posts
On April 13 2021 02:25 KwarK wrote: This is weird to me because Trump’s foreign policy mostly consisted of arguing with the entire military establishment about why the post war American hegemony needs to exist. Conservatives usually worship that establishment and love that the USA is a global superpower. Trump’s foreign policy runs contrary to every American government since Hoover and actively undermined 100 years of alliance building. I don’t think any conservative who thinks they approve of what Trump did actually understands what he did. There’s a reason his top generals kept resigning in protest. On the foreign policy front it’s not even a conservative vs liberal divide, both sides were in complete agreement on US membership in NATO until Trump made up a narrative about how people were taking advantage of the US. Both sides were in agreement that when American military might is primarily being used as a deterrent it’s a really bad idea for the President to suggest that America may not honour treaty obligations if an ally were attacked. The tax cuts were just stimulus, they were paid for with deficit spending. An expansion of big government subsidies through borrowing with the favoured interests of the government getting the biggest windfalls while working Americans got screwed. Trump campaigned on ending the deficit/national debt. I say both because he used them interchangeably and variously referred to ending both and it wasn’t clear that he knew that one was the annual budget shortfall and the other was the total accumulation of decades of the former. Although when asked about paying back 20T of national debt in one term his campaign did say that that was what they meant and suggested that they could auction off the national parks to China so who can really say. All we know is that Trump borrowed more and increased the deficit by more than any President in history. Conservatives like to talk about Venezuela a lot while borrowing their economic policies, borrow all you can, mortgage the future, give all that borrowed government money to in groups while ignoring the people. It’s the shit that causes people to say that American conservatives have no values. For most of my life they’ve been endlessly repeating what their values were and then the first time some fascist shows up spouting racist bullshit they betray every one of them. The Republicans are the party of big government deficit spending to subsidize failing industries and somehow they’re all fine with that. I mean, it's not like I think the support of Trump makes sense. But, he performed above expectation through not getting the US involved in any major military conflict, and he also told European freeloading nations to increase their spending (and they have), and he moved the Israeli embassy to Jerusalem, which was a big fuck you to Muslims (and maybe it even had some other justification). It's not crazy to me that a republican, even pre trump, likes all these. Myself I hate the latter, don't feel strongly about the one in the middle, and am pleasantly surprised by the first. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10968 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28910 Posts
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Sermokala
United States14211 Posts
On April 13 2021 05:12 Liquid`Drone wrote: They basically got away with assassinating an Iranian general, so I'm guessing that's considered a win, too. He wasn't just a general he was the guy behind most of their foreign support to various rebel groups. I'm not excusing assassination of foreign leaders being acceptable but it was undeniably a huge win in the trump crowd. | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9248 Posts
On April 13 2021 02:25 KwarK wrote: On the foreign policy front it’s not even a conservative vs liberal divide, both sides were in complete agreement on US membership in NATO until Trump made up a narrative about how people were taking advantage of the US. You give him too much credit by suggesting he created narratives. For at least 10 years before Trump I've seen it parroted countless times that the US spends as much as it does on military because it is subsidizing the defense of allies that don't spend enough on theirs, and similarly that the US has to have expensive medicine because they are subsidizing drug research for the rest of the world. These ideas were spread in support of those industries, it's just that someone susceptible to PR aimed at Facebook aunts wasn't supposed to end up as a decision maker. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On April 13 2021 04:34 Velr wrote: That assassination on the Iranian general on Iraqi soil could easily have lead to a war (or further escalation in the region). Not being a warmonger seems pretty lucky in that regard. If not for the colossal fuck up where Iran shot down a civilian Ukrainian plane I'm pretty sure we would be at war, and not just with Iran. The details in how the US did it each make it worse and worse. Trump called and requested an Iraqi presence at a peace negotiation in order to de-escalate tensions. So, the general was invited under false pretenses of diplomatic negotiations with a US ally and was then assassinated, along with the leaders of the US ally's diplomats. It broke off any possible good relations with Iraq as much as it did with Iran, which is impressive. We literally set them up as a puppet government barely a decade before. Trump crossed a line so massively that even a semi-puppet government had no choice but to vote to expel all US authorities. Sidenote: I have no idea why the US likes the Saudis and hates Iran. Neither of them are particularly good, but Iran seems a lot closer to US values than SA does (theocratic representative government vs theocratic monarchy). | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22663 Posts
On April 13 2021 05:46 Nevuk wrote: The Saudis have oil.If not for the colossal fuck up where Iran shot down a civilian Ukrainian plane I'm pretty sure we would be at war, and not just with Iran. The details in how the US did it each make it worse and worse. Trump called and requested an Iraqi presence at a peace negotiation in order to de-escalate tensions. So, the general was invited under false pretenses of diplomatic negotiations with a US ally and was then assassinated, along with the leaders of the US ally's diplomats. It broke off any possible good relations with Iraq as much as it did with Iran, which is impressive. We literally set them up as a puppet government barely a decade before. Trump crossed a line so massively that even a semi-puppet government had no choice but to vote to expel all US authorities. Sidenote: I have no idea why the US likes the Saudis and hates Iran. Neither of them are particularly good, but Iran seems a lot closer to US values than SA does (theocratic representative government vs theocratic monarchy). And Iran has oil, which is why the US overthrew their democratic government and installed a dictatorship to control it. Which was later overthrown in a revolution by the Ayatollah , leading to the current Iranian situation. Its not so much that the US hates Iran, its that Iran hates the US for overthrowing their government and installing a dictatorship to oppress them. And when Iran took revenge the US hated them back for it. Everything involving Iran basically goes back to the 1953 coup. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On April 13 2021 05:15 Sermokala wrote: He wasn't just a general he was the guy behind most of their foreign support to various rebel groups. I'm not excusing assassination of foreign leaders being acceptable but it was undeniably a huge win in the trump crowd. and this is the problem with America. Everyone in this country needs to watch Brad Pitt explain the math behind killing terrorists and internalize how that isn't a solution. What I wonder most about the whole Iran saga is if a bunch of people were going to lose money if we shifted from Saudi to Iran or if people just genuinely can't stand Obama policy. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24389 Posts
______ hates the US for overthrowing their government and installing a dictatorship to oppress them. And when _____ took revenge the US hated them back for it. This pretty much describes any country that hates the US/the US hates (other than ones where the US failed to install puppet regimes in the first place). | ||
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Neneu
Norway492 Posts
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28910 Posts
On April 13 2021 10:34 LegalLord wrote: It's strange how "don't abandon the Kurds" turns out to be the modern left-leaning cry for a more interventionist foreign policy after many years of allegedly campaigning for the opposite. Leftist like the Kurds a lot and have supported their cause for decades. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22663 Posts
On April 13 2021 10:34 LegalLord wrote: The left generally prefers not to start wars without good cause, but once the US is involved they want to take care of their allies. Is that somehow a strange position to have?It's strange how "don't abandon the Kurds" turns out to be the modern left-leaning cry for a more interventionist foreign policy after many years of allegedly campaigning for the opposite. If you go out to drink with a bunch of friends you don't go with the idea of getting into a fist fight (normally). But if you get into a fight you want your friends to have your back. | ||
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Silvanel
Poland4769 Posts
On April 13 2021 13:45 Liquid`Drone wrote: Leftist like the Kurds a lot and have supported their cause for decades. Any decent person should be supporting their cause. | ||
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