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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8177 Posts
July 14 2026 08:42 GMT
#117101
Rubio vowing to dismantle the international criminal court.

Wonder why.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7372 Posts
July 14 2026 08:51 GMT
#117102
On July 14 2026 17:21 Falling wrote:
Good news.
The First Iran War is Over.
Begun, the Second Iran War Has.

Doctors hate this one trick that will allow you to reset to a new war every sixty days to avoid Congressional approval.

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/07/13/trump-notifies-congress-of-new-war-against-iran-00995170


Haha that is like Russia which has started its 3 day special operation for the 533rd time now :D
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22551 Posts
July 14 2026 09:06 GMT
#117103
On July 14 2026 17:42 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Rubio vowing to dismantle the international criminal court.

Wonder why.
Because they have an arrest warrant for Netanyahu and the former Israeli defence minister.

Just the US being Israel's dog.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24303 Posts
July 14 2026 09:49 GMT
#117104
On July 14 2026 17:27 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2026 17:21 Falling wrote:
Good news.
The First Iran War is Over.
Begun, the Second Iran War Has.

Doctors hate this one trick that will allow you to reset to a new war every sixty days to avoid Congressional approval.

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/07/13/trump-notifies-congress-of-new-war-against-iran-00995170
1) thats not how it works.
2) it doesn't matter anyway because Congress won't do anything either way.

If you think about it, they are representatives of the people, and if the people won't do anything then neither will they.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10942 Posts
July 14 2026 12:46 GMT
#117105
My personal favorite story atm is the Tariff refunds.

No one is even acting as if the refunds would somehow end up with the people that paid them and all you hear is just crickets (and how some trump cronies profit some more of it).

The american public is staggeringly docile. I feel like at this point, even the Germans would be out in force...
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1670 Posts
July 14 2026 13:07 GMT
#117106
Oh, come on Velr, it's just $81 billion being refunded, that's nothing, look at all the good the tariffs did, like alienate allies, spike inflation, allowed Trump to do insider trading just before he dropped the announcement etc.

Similarly, he recently awarded the Reflecting pool job to a joke of a guy with a joke of a company (Greenwater lol) and then, because he is a lazy POS who believes that you have a certain amount of heartbeats before you die, he decided to have his motorcade drive through it:

[image loading]


Obviously fucking with the sealant, for which he later got people arrested and called them terrorists.

Now the job will allow them to launder even more millions, the Greenwater guy will subcontract a competent company and split the $ 100 million extra with Trump, US citizens will pay for it and Fox news will praise the president for his wisdom.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8177 Posts
July 14 2026 13:46 GMT
#117107
On July 14 2026 18:06 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2026 17:42 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Rubio vowing to dismantle the international criminal court.

Wonder why.
Because they have an arrest warrant for Netanyahu and the former Israeli defence minister.

Just the US being Israel's dog.

They will probably have an arrest warrant for a few of Trump’s croonies when this horrible face finally ends.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2257 Posts
July 14 2026 14:00 GMT
#117108
Only if he dies before selling blanket pardons.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22551 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-14 14:33:01
July 14 2026 14:02 GMT
#117109
On July 14 2026 23:00 Billyboy wrote:
Only if he dies before selling blanket pardons.
Pretty sure the ICC doesn't give a shit about US pardons.

Ofcourse the main issue is the US not recognising the ICC, and a Bush era law that the US declares war on the Netherlands if the ICC tries to enforce them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Service-Members%27_Protection_Act
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11603 Posts
July 14 2026 15:36 GMT
#117110
On July 14 2026 17:27 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2026 17:21 Falling wrote:
Good news.
The First Iran War is Over.
Begun, the Second Iran War Has.

Doctors hate this one trick that will allow you to reset to a new war every sixty days to avoid Congressional approval.

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/07/13/trump-notifies-congress-of-new-war-against-iran-00995170
1) thats not how it works.
2) it doesn't matter anyway because Congress won't do anything either way.

Of course it's not how it works but it's amusing just the same.
Moderator5000 of our finest Taliban warriors have been released! Rise up my brothers. Mashalla! al-Donald ibn-Frederick al-Masih allows it.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6449 Posts
July 14 2026 15:52 GMT
#117111
On July 14 2026 17:42 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Rubio vowing to dismantle the international criminal court.

Wonder why.

He's definitely worried the International Police will arrest him and hold him in International Jail.

On July 14 2026 21:46 Velr wrote:
My personal favorite story atm is the Tariff refunds.

No one is even acting as if the refunds would somehow end up with the people that paid them and all you hear is just crickets (and how some trump cronies profit some more of it).

The american public is staggeringly docile. I feel like at this point, even the Germans would be out in force...

Where else would refunds go?

On July 14 2026 07:30 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
Ironically, if they push a conspiracy theory (or even if it was somehow true) that Iran assassinated Graham, to push the next time they bomb Iran, it would be a fitting way to remember him, it's what he would have wanted.

A thorough warmonger, and a horrible human being.

Iran shot at ships, after signing a document not to, you don't need any kind of manufactured pretense to bomb them further. Iran just gives it to you. Whether intentional or not, like if the people negotiating don't have control over the people shooting because of the lack of a cohesive single thing called "Iran," it's their problem.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11960 Posts
July 14 2026 16:28 GMT
#117112
On July 14 2026 23:02 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2026 23:00 Billyboy wrote:
Only if he dies before selling blanket pardons.
Pretty sure the ICC doesn't give a shit about US pardons.

Ofcourse the main issue is the US not recognising the ICC, and a Bush era law that the US declares war on the Netherlands if the ICC tries to enforce them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Service-Members%27_Protection_Act


It is impressive just how much the US is fighting to make sure that no one else can ever try to investigate or prosecute their war crimes.
misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3316 Posts
July 14 2026 17:01 GMT
#117113
On July 15 2026 00:52 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2026 17:42 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Rubio vowing to dismantle the international criminal court.

Wonder why.

He's definitely worried the International Police will arrest him and hold him in International Jail.

Show nested quote +
On July 14 2026 21:46 Velr wrote:
My personal favorite story atm is the Tariff refunds.

No one is even acting as if the refunds would somehow end up with the people that paid them and all you hear is just crickets (and how some trump cronies profit some more of it).

The american public is staggeringly docile. I feel like at this point, even the Germans would be out in force...

Where else would refunds go?


a ) the tariffs shouldn't have existed in the first place
b ) product prices should have decreased to pre tariff price
c ) tariff refunds were bought by *checks notes* the commerce secretary's family

and here you are everyday carrying water for Trump, GOP and the millionaire business owners, defending this absolute mockery of the working people and brazen corruption.
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1670 Posts
July 14 2026 17:02 GMT
#117114
On July 15 2026 01:28 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2026 23:02 Gorsameth wrote:
On July 14 2026 23:00 Billyboy wrote:
Only if he dies before selling blanket pardons.
Pretty sure the ICC doesn't give a shit about US pardons.

Ofcourse the main issue is the US not recognising the ICC, and a Bush era law that the US declares war on the Netherlands if the ICC tries to enforce them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Service-Members%27_Protection_Act


It is impressive just how much the US is fighting to make sure that no one else can ever try to investigate or prosecute their war crimes.


One of the worse things that US has done to any "ally" since the start of the Trump 2.0 era are the sanctions that they put against ICC prosecutors and judges, basically rendering a few French ones unable to use any of their credit cards and many other services:

Gillou and his family are banned from US territory, but the sanctions have hit him hard at home, in Europe. He cannot use most credit cards, as Visa and Mastercard dominate the market; most digital services are off-limits, and even online orders can be blocked if an American intermediary – like the delivery service UPS – is involved.

“The most problematic situation is when it affects services for which there is actually no European alternative.”

Guillou recounted how he booked a hotel in France through the US travel company Expedia, only for the reservation to be cancelled hours later because he was under sanctions.


All of this was a consequence of this guy issuing the arrest warrant for the obvious war criminal Netyanahu.

As usual, this will, in the long run, reduce USA soft power as there are processes that have been kicked off to reduce EU reliance on all of these services, especially Visa and MasterCard, which will in turn mean billions of lost revenue for the USA.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24303 Posts
July 14 2026 17:05 GMT
#117115
On July 15 2026 01:28 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2026 23:02 Gorsameth wrote:
On July 14 2026 23:00 Billyboy wrote:
Only if he dies before selling blanket pardons.
Pretty sure the ICC doesn't give a shit about US pardons.

Ofcourse the main issue is the US not recognising the ICC, and a Bush era law that the US declares war on the Netherlands if the ICC tries to enforce them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Service-Members%27_Protection_Act


It is impressive just how much the US is fighting to make sure that no one else can ever try to investigate or prosecute their war crimes.

It's almost like the whole concept of a "Rule-based international order" was just a euphemism for US hegemony.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6449 Posts
July 14 2026 17:24 GMT
#117116
On July 15 2026 02:01 misirlou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2026 00:52 oBlade wrote:
On July 14 2026 17:42 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Rubio vowing to dismantle the international criminal court.

Wonder why.

He's definitely worried the International Police will arrest him and hold him in International Jail.

On July 14 2026 21:46 Velr wrote:
My personal favorite story atm is the Tariff refunds.

No one is even acting as if the refunds would somehow end up with the people that paid them and all you hear is just crickets (and how some trump cronies profit some more of it).

The american public is staggeringly docile. I feel like at this point, even the Germans would be out in force...

Where else would refunds go?

a ) the tariffs shouldn't have existed in the first place

We're not sidetracking into an entire free trade debate mess for a simple question.
On July 15 2026 02:01 misirlou wrote:
b ) product prices should have decreased to pre tariff price

Shoulda, woulda, coulda. What is your point?
On July 15 2026 02:01 misirlou wrote:
c ) tariff refunds were bought by *checks notes* the commerce secretary's family

Tariff refund rights were sold by *checks notes* the people who very plausibly thought they wouldn't get refunds because SCOTUS would rule in favor of POTUS because there is a law that says in it that the president can regulate imports.

On July 15 2026 02:01 misirlou wrote:
and here you are everyday carrying water for Trump, GOP and the millionaire business owners, defending this absolute mockery of the working people and brazen corruption.

Yeah I am carrying weight for millionaire business owners who benefit from having all the shit they import from China taxed more. You hit the nail on the head. That's my exact motivation.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1670 Posts
July 14 2026 17:38 GMT
#117117
I thought you were against increased taxes for normal citizens?

Taxing consumers more is good now?

Companies simply priced in the tariffs and passed those increases to the end consumers, in vast majority of the cases, spiking inflation. Now these companies will get a $81 Billion refund that they will keep. And this is what you are defending? Is there nothing in the world that these guys can do that will not make you swallow whatever principles you pretended you had for years?

Also, if you just want to tax "shitty things" from China, why use a flat rate tariff on all imports? Isn't that just stupid and hurts everyone involved?
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3124 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-14 20:28:08
July 14 2026 20:25 GMT
#117118
E. Jean Carroll finally receives the $5m plus interest she is owed after President of the United States Donald Trump raped her: https://abcnews.com/US/jean-carroll-receives-5-million-payment-trump-civil/story?id=134748551
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4233 Posts
July 14 2026 21:35 GMT
#117119
Did he have to write the check or did the Court hand over the money? iicr they had to put up the money before the appeal.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
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LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3124 Posts
July 14 2026 21:38 GMT
#117120
According to the article "Trump had deposited $5.55 million in the federal government's Court Registry Investment System to be held in escrow during his appeal"
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
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