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maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5890 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-10-23 21:37:00
2 hours ago
#120701


The most corrupt government in US history. I'm sure our local fascist bootlickers couldn't be more proud. ;-)
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44398 Posts
50 minutes ago
#120702
On October 24 2026 01:59 dyhb wrote:
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On October 24 2026 01:13 Gorsameth wrote:
On October 24 2026 00:40 dyhb wrote:
On October 23 2026 21:28 Geiko wrote:
I've already said this but it needs to be said again apparently. In Switzerland, you don't have to do anything to vote. I just receive papers in the mail and I can vote by mail or at the local booth without any ID or anything. I don't know what's so unrealistic about what Darkplasmaball is proposing ?
The government knows where you live because you pay taxes and have an official address.
On October 23 2026 21:37 Velr wrote:
Yeah but we register at our communes when we move in/out. The US doesn't do that and thats somehow an argument for not having voter ID's and having to register separately because "they don't know where you live" - it's just a lazy excuse to keep actually voting as annoying as possible.
Removing the process from states to the federal government (the "we register at our communes when we move in/out") would require a constitutional amendment. That's tough. You have to look at what the constitution allows to see if you're easy/uniform are actually possible.

We don't even have uniform rules across 50 states on who is eligible to vote, if you look at the rules surrounding felony convictions and mental incapacity.

On October 23 2026 22:26 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
In 2020, Trump and his allies sued dozens of times to try and overturn election results, without a shred of evidence.
This is exhausting your legal options, and people like Marc Elias do it for Dems every election where its a close race. You obviously know who you want to win, so you try to disqualify enough ballots in areas that went against you, and restore enough disqualified ballots from areas that you're winning.
I promise you, the state you live in knows you live there. And they know if your eligible to vote.
The state you left may or can still give valid ballots to your old address, or someone presenting no ID can fraudulently cast a ballot in your name. No state is required by law to inform the state the person moved from that it is no longer there.

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And no its not just 'exhausting your legal options'. multiple Trump lawyers got sanctioned for filing frivolous election lawsuits. Giuliani, Jenna Ellis, Sidney Powell, Lin Wood, Emily Newman, Gregory Rohl, Scott Hagerstrom, Stefanie Lynn Junttila, Julia Z. Haller, Brandon Johnson, Howard Kleinhendler, and probably more.
Are you moving off of calling it cheating to file multiple lawsuits to try and overturn election results? We can agree on Trump going wider and further to a practice that you're calling part of cheating.

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On October 24 2026 01:56 Velr wrote:
On October 24 2026 00:40 dyhb wrote:
On October 23 2026 21:28 Geiko wrote:
I've already said this but it needs to be said again apparently. In Switzerland, you don't have to do anything to vote. I just receive papers in the mail and I can vote by mail or at the local booth without any ID or anything. I don't know what's so unrealistic about what Darkplasmaball is proposing ?
The government knows where you live because you pay taxes and have an official address.
On October 23 2026 21:37 Velr wrote:
Yeah but we register at our communes when we move in/out. The US doesn't do that and thats somehow an argument for not having voter ID's and having to register separately because "they don't know where you live" - it's just a lazy excuse to keep actually voting as annoying as possible.
Removing the process from states to the federal government (the "we register at our communes when we move in/out") would require a constitutional amendment. That's tough. You have to look at what the constitution allows to see if you're easy/uniform are actually possible.

We don't even have uniform rules across 50 states


But your drivers licences work nationwide, right?
So you'd call it burdensome and outlawed if some states required you to obtain an in-state license 10-30 days after a move? Just drawing from what you said about the annoying part on re-registering.

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These are just excuses, you don't have to do it the same way as switzerland but the idea that there is no register of legal voting age adults in the US is plain ridiculous.
Elections are carried out in accordance with the constitution, and if you have to change it to get your "easy change," you're really stretching the definition of what is easy. By design the constitution is hard to change.

Also did you just ignore that some states have different rules on who is eligible to vote that don't match different rules on who is eligible to drive? You could move and lose your eligibility on one and both.

There was an interstate voter cross checking system that at one point covered most voters to address exactly this risk. Essentially the Federal government wasn’t doing it and so a state started checking for duplicates within their own rolls. Other states thought it was great and voluntarily joined.

The problem emerged around the time voter fraud became a highly partisan political issue because Republicans kept being caught. And so Republican led states started refusing to comply with it and withdrew.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Registration_Information_Center

It’s an interesting read.
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14217 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-10-23 23:30:35
15 minutes ago
#120703
On October 24 2026 06:31 Billyboy wrote:
It is so strange that this is a big issue in the US. Every time it’s investigated it turns out there is no, or very little voter fraud. The big issue in US politics is the massive amounts of “donations” and the costs of running a campaign. Clearly all those donations have huge implications in future policy choices and it should be the bi partisan issue that every American agrees is a problem.

I think its strange that Republicans keep coming up with solutions to imaginary problems that would instead solve completly different problems if they were possible.

Like the idea that Minnesota is the heart of Fraud. If being the heart of fraud gives you the economic sucsess of Minnesota we need to start doing a lot more fraud in america. If republicans really wanted to demonize america they would look at the cabal of unelected technocrats appointed by the governor that is given taxing authority, authority to dictate to local governments what they will do if they don't want their insurance as well as their state funding revoked, that operates the states major airport, that is not accountable to anybody, that is a literal cabal of people who decide the economic future of the people in the state. We're going to be the state for Rare gas distribution with Helium for medical devices, CO2 for agricultural production and for the largest accumulation of Helium three found in the world.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3410 Posts
2 minutes ago
#120704
Minorities voting is their actual "problem", the imaginary part is the explanation they came up with for why they want voter suppression after using slurs fell out of fashion.
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
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