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On July 12 2026 20:43 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2026 19:47 Jankisa wrote:
Lindsey Graham was the embodiment of what MAGA did to US conservative politics.
His transformation from never-Trumper into one of his biggest cheer leaders and suck ups was incredible to behold, for an adult main in a position of power to humiliate and prostitute himself for what, to be closer to power and have the ear of the petulant toddler king and act as the court jester on Fox news to sell his wars.
My latest impression of him was a sense of horror as he gleefully cheered on Iran, grinning as he said they aren't taking it far enough and happily announcing that Cuba is next.
Just a completely hollow creature with not an ounce of anything that makes people human.
I think Ted Cruz is a better example in an even more punchable face, but yes, Lindsay Graham was also a hollow man with no values, just a lust for power (and warmongering).
From LG's Wiki, about Iran: "Graham was viewed as a leading exponent of militarism against the country. Mohammad Marandi said, "It's a shame. I wanted him to see oil prices on Monday before he went to hell."[375]"
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RIP Lindsey Graham. There never was a war he wasn't eager to send other people's kids to die in.
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doubleupgradeobbies!
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On July 12 2026 21:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2026 20:43 Acrofales wrote:On July 12 2026 19:47 Jankisa wrote:
Lindsey Graham was the embodiment of what MAGA did to US conservative politics.
His transformation from never-Trumper into one of his biggest cheer leaders and suck ups was incredible to behold, for an adult main in a position of power to humiliate and prostitute himself for what, to be closer to power and have the ear of the petulant toddler king and act as the court jester on Fox news to sell his wars.
My latest impression of him was a sense of horror as he gleefully cheered on Iran, grinning as he said they aren't taking it far enough and happily announcing that Cuba is next.
Just a completely hollow creature with not an ounce of anything that makes people human.
I think Ted Cruz is a better example in an even more punchable face, but yes, Lindsay Graham was also a hollow man with no values, just a lust for power (and warmongering). From LG's Wiki, about Iran: "Graham was viewed as a leading exponent of militarism against the country. Mohammad Marandi said, "It's a shame. I wanted him to see oil prices on Monday before he went to hell."[375]"
It seems like even Mohammed Marandi maybe overestimates Graham's humanity. Like he would even care what the oil price was so long as the bombs keep falling.
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What is the purpose of the strikes on Iran? Clearly they are not an effective deterrent. Its ground troops for regime change or at least to hold the straight and oil production, or it is to home with the tail between their legs. This isn’t doing shit.
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doubleupgradeobbies!
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On July 13 2026 12:21 Billyboy wrote:
What is the purpose of the strikes on Iran? Clearly they are not an effective deterrent. Its ground troops for regime change or at least to hold the straight and oil production, or it is to home with the tail between their legs. This isn’t doing shit.
For the people who make the bombs (and their shareholders) it's is $$chaching$$ though!
And I guess it makes the US look macho or something.
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At the moment it's basically some ships not following the IRGC designated route, Iran then fires at them in order to keep their biggest leverage for the negotiations credible and Trump doesn't really have a gear other then "bomb them back".
CENTCOM then provides a list of what intelligence gathered during the ceasefire as the most relevant and juicy targets to make further operations easier, so in this case I think it was drone launch sites, small boats and anti air systems.
They do just enough so the whole ceasefire is not officially pronounced dead on arrival and enough to have the oil markets act as if it might be, so today or tomorrow, just as the markets are about to open Trump and his cronies can make some well placed bets and scratch a few fresh billions for themselves.
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Reminds me of Asimov: « Violence is the last refuge of incompetence. »
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On July 13 2026 13:00 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2026 12:21 Billyboy wrote:
What is the purpose of the strikes on Iran? Clearly they are not an effective deterrent. Its ground troops for regime change or at least to hold the straight and oil production, or it is to home with the tail between their legs. This isn’t doing shit. For the people who make the bombs (and their shareholders) it's is $$chaching$$ though! And I guess it makes the US look macho or something.
That is depressingly likely the actual reasons.
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What is the FBI's / local authorities' current role in this? Why are they needed after someone dies of heart disease?
"FBI Director Kash Patel said Sunday his bureau is “assisting local authorities” in the wake of the death of Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.). ... Graham died of aortic dissection due to arteriosclerotic cardiovascular disease" https://www.thehill.com/homenews/administration/5964793-fbi-assists-in-graham-death/
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Probably because the base is full of conspiracy nuts. But it won’t matter, no matter what they find people are just going to believe what they made up in their heads because that is how the operate.
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On July 14 2026 00:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:What is the FBI's / local authorities' current role in this? Why are they needed after someone dies of heart disease? "FBI Director Kash Patel said Sunday his bureau is “assisting local authorities” in the wake of the death of Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.). ... Graham died of aortic dissection due to arteriosclerotic cardiovascular disease" https://www.thehill.com/homenews/administration/5964793-fbi-assists-in-graham-death/ Because they are all incompetent people desperately trying to please daddy who will happily lie about anything and everything?
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In this case I think that them using his death to gin up conspiracies to distract from the real shit they are trying to cover up, or just the general state of things is a blessing.
It's a sexy story, has international espionage (potentially), Russia, Ukraine, guy who was basically hated by all sides because he was flip flopping for 5 years before being completely subsumed by Trump, so why not have Ka$h say they are looking into it just to muddy the waters a bit.
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On July 14 2026 00:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:What is the FBI's / local authorities' current role in this? Why are they needed after someone dies of heart disease? "FBI Director Kash Patel said Sunday his bureau is “assisting local authorities” in the wake of the death of Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.). ... Graham died of aortic dissection due to arteriosclerotic cardiovascular disease" https://www.thehill.com/homenews/administration/5964793-fbi-assists-in-graham-death/
My guess is Patel is just trying to get his name in the news as "doing something" since the past six months have been nothing but headlines about his outrageous corruption.
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Is anyone in the US an active member of a political organization? DSA, Democrats, Republicans, The Libertarian Party, The Green Party, The Constitution Party, Working Families Party, Forward Party, Our Revolution, The Federalist Society?
How about those outside of the US?
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A funny thought I had, or maybe just funny to me, is that Lindsey graham dying is conspiracy theory in part because of his age. 71 is like a baby for US politicians.
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doubleupgradeobbies!
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Ironically, if they push a conspiracy theory (or even if it was somehow true) that Iran assassinated Graham, to push the next time they bomb Iran, it would be a fitting way to remember him, it's what he would have wanted.
A thorough warmonger, and a horrible human being.
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The theory is Russia because he was just in Ukraine and has pushed Trump to arm them.
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1) thats not how it works.
2) it doesn't matter anyway because Congress won't do anything either way.
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