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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
January 21 2021 13:00 GMT
#60921
So in more We Had An Armed Insurrection Spurred By Key Republican Figures news, we continue to have a faction of Republicans that are firmly committed to Trump and the neo-fascist future where they get to stay in power. This includes Lindsey Graham who believes that the only path forward for Republicans is their neo-fascist Trump path.

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Graham, a South Carolina Republican, argued that the GOP needs Trump on its side to be successful next year.

"For the party to move forward, we got to move the party with Donald Trump," Graham said in an interview. "There's no way to be a successful Republican Party without having President Trump working with all of us and all of us working with him. That's just a fact. And I think we got a decent chance of coming back in 2022. But we can't do it without the President."


Also Tuberville, which is equally unsurprising,

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Asked what it would mean for the party if Republicans joined Democrats to convict Trump, Tuberville said: "It wouldn't be good. The whole thing is about a team, and if you start separating the team, then it just tears it up."


A lot of Republicans seem very keen on pretending they didnt help incite an armed insurrection that desecrated the US Capitol. Apparently Mitch himself is very undecided, but I wouldn't be surprised if he considers the future of the Republican party's power to be of greater importance than America as a whole, and democracy, and preventing fascism, and all of the other awful shit that continuing to support Trump would endanger.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/20/politics/gop-senators-warn-mcconnell-backlash/index.html
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9639 Posts
January 21 2021 13:06 GMT
#60922
CNN asked Graham live yesterday if he thought he needed to apologize, I found that pretty funny. Low to do that live but still, very funny.
dankobanana
Profile Joined February 2016
Croatia244 Posts
January 21 2021 13:07 GMT
#60923
On January 21 2021 22:06 brian wrote:
CNN asked Graham live yesterday if he thought he needed to apologize, I found that pretty funny. Low to do that live but still, very funny.


its low to try to hold him to his words and actions?
Battle is waged in the name of the many. The brave, who generation after generation choose the mantle of - Dark Templar!
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9639 Posts
January 21 2021 13:11 GMT
#60924
On January 21 2021 22:07 dankobanana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2021 22:06 brian wrote:
CNN asked Graham live yesterday if he thought he needed to apologize, I found that pretty funny. Low to do that live but still, very funny.


its low to try to hold him to his words and actions?


that is not what i would consider a fair characterization of the exchange.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22238 Posts
January 21 2021 13:12 GMT
#60925
On January 21 2021 22:00 Zambrah wrote:
So in more We Had An Armed Insurrection Spurred By Key Republican Figures news, we continue to have a faction of Republicans that are firmly committed to Trump and the neo-fascist future where they get to stay in power. This includes Lindsey Graham who believes that the only path forward for Republicans is their neo-fascist Trump path.

+ Show Spoiler +
Graham, a South Carolina Republican, argued that the GOP needs Trump on its side to be successful next year.

"For the party to move forward, we got to move the party with Donald Trump," Graham said in an interview. "There's no way to be a successful Republican Party without having President Trump working with all of us and all of us working with him. That's just a fact. And I think we got a decent chance of coming back in 2022. But we can't do it without the President."


Also Tuberville, which is equally unsurprising,

+ Show Spoiler +
Asked what it would mean for the party if Republicans joined Democrats to convict Trump, Tuberville said: "It wouldn't be good. The whole thing is about a team, and if you start separating the team, then it just tears it up."


A lot of Republicans seem very keen on pretending they didnt help incite an armed insurrection that desecrated the US Capitol. Apparently Mitch himself is very undecided, but I wouldn't be surprised if he considers the future of the Republican party's power to be of greater importance than America as a whole, and democracy, and preventing fascism, and all of the other awful shit that continuing to support Trump would endanger.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/20/politics/gop-senators-warn-mcconnell-backlash/index.html
It feels... strange to have a politician strait up say "its not about the country, tribalism is what matters'. Its what Republicans seem to believe in sure but its just weird for him to say it out loud.

It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 21 2021 13:18 GMT
#60926
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schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
January 21 2021 13:44 GMT
#60927
Wouldn't be for long, though. Trump eats dollars for breakfast and surrounds himself with terrible organizers, how could he ever run a successful party?
Axiom wins more than it loses. Most viewers don't. - <3 TB
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45524 Posts
January 21 2021 14:02 GMT
#60928
Credit where credit is due. Some of Biden's actions and achievements within the first 24 hours of his presidency:

-Enforced additional mask requirements
-Rejoined the World Health Organization that Trump left
-Bolstered DACA and is pushing for a path to citizenship
-Ended the Muslim ban and restarted processing visas
-Terminated any of Trump's border wall plans
-Reentered the Paris Agreement to address climate change
-Revoked the Keystone pipeline permit
-Reversed the rollbacks of vehicle emissions standards
-Ended Trump's 1776 Commission that whitewashed U.S. history
-Directed agencies to immediately review and report equity issues
-Reversed Trump's anti-LGBT agenda (Civil Rights Act, Title VII)
-Extended a moratorium on evictions and foreclosures
-Paused student loan interest and principal payments
-Assembled a reasonable, experienced Cabinet of advisors

Not bad for his first day in office, and clearly an overall positive! There is always more progress that can be made though. Hopefully he and Congress will work together to effectively drag the conservatives, kicking and screaming, into a better country and a better world, with more affordable healthcare, less student debt, actual financial stability, and a better legacy for our children.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/20/us/biden-executive-orders.html?auth=login-email&fbclid=IwAR2CK3LPM8KTsjJRUZNafUlP07jgQwYZRLtWi0hlB2oZhIoL_pPv8wwys20&login=email&smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 21 2021 14:50 GMT
#60929
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
January 21 2021 14:56 GMT
#60930
Do any of the Canadian proponents of the pipeline have anything to say about the fact that huge stretches of the pipeline run through tribal territories, the leadership of which has opposed the pipeline since day one?
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-21 15:17:07
January 21 2021 15:16 GMT
#60931
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
January 21 2021 15:32 GMT
#60932
Yeah I really don't know enough about how engagement with tribes works across the US-Canada border; these sorts of massive international projects implicate a sprawling web of interests that are very difficult to get a handle on.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
January 21 2021 15:47 GMT
#60933
It honestly does seem pretty shitty to unilaterally cancel regulatory approval this far into the project. There's definitely "two sides" both with legitimate points when it comes to laying down an oil pipeline like Keystone, but I wouldn't fault the Canadian side for feeling screwed over by a 180 like this.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8063 Posts
January 21 2021 15:52 GMT
#60934
On January 22 2021 00:47 LegalLord wrote:
It honestly does seem pretty shitty to unilaterally cancel regulatory approval this far into the project. There's definitely "two sides" both with legitimate points when it comes to laying down an oil pipeline like Keystone, but I wouldn't fault the Canadian side for feeling screwed over by a 180 like this.

The canadians could have totally realized that making a deal with Trump that was totally unacceptable to everyone but him for multiple reasons was not a great idea
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 21 2021 16:03 GMT
#60935
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Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3265 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-21 16:17:53
January 21 2021 16:12 GMT
#60936
Yeah considering that the US seems to be hellbent to do a complete 180 every 4-8 years with ever new president revoking 90% of what his predecessor did foreign relations are pretty complicated.

Iran and Kuba could probably tell you a thing or two about it.

Then again the way it looks currently the problem is likely to go away in the next 30-50 years.
low gravity, yes-yes!
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-21 16:18:15
January 21 2021 16:16 GMT
#60937
It's important to note that the switchovers implicated by Trump's one term presidency are historically unique in terms of how hellbent on deconstruction Trump's cronies were. The only election that comes anywhere close was '80 and Reagan's perceived mandate to undo much of what Carter tried.

All of that is say that the whiplash resulting from Biden's win is and will be unique painful. Add it to the list of broken things that desperately need updating on review of the damage caused by Trump.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3265 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-21 20:09:38
January 21 2021 16:20 GMT
#60938
Assuming the next republican president in 4-8 years won't run on revoking everything Biden did because both parties can't see eye to eye anymore and are radicalizing alongside their voter base.
low gravity, yes-yes!
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
January 21 2021 16:20 GMT
#60939
anyone know why the f antifa is throwing a fit already?
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
January 21 2021 16:25 GMT
#60940
On January 22 2021 01:20 Mohdoo wrote:
anyone know why the f antifa is throwing a fit already?

Cuz they hate Democrats and Biden only a tiny bit less than Republicans and Trump? Regardless of the specific reasons, this goes to show how there is no left-wing equivalent for all the Trump loving right wingers, so I welcome it.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
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