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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28090 Posts
October 22 2019 02:35 GMT
#1421
On October 22 2019 11:28 Lmui wrote:
I'm hoping that Liberals get enough that the NDP or NDP + green hold the balance of power.

I don't really want the BQ having a gigantic say at the table.

BQ currently doing well but I guess BC votes haven’t come in yet.
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Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11355 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-22 02:36:56
October 22 2019 02:36 GMT
#1422
@Ben
I agree 100%.
It's actually unbelievable how many opportunities there were. Even though it was an incumbent government, there were so many softballs.
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
October 22 2019 02:38 GMT
#1423
The cons are doing ~14 seats better than 2015 Harper so there's that.
© Current year.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-22 02:41:36
October 22 2019 02:41 GMT
#1424
So far the PPC can't even muster a single seat. I have to admit I'm smiling a bit at seeing Bernier fail miserably at fomenting some kind of far-right movement. The Bloc's had a very solid showing, while the NDP hasn't seen their late Singh popularity surge translate into seats.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
October 22 2019 02:42 GMT
#1425
Lib-NDP should just about snuck out a majority
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16716 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-22 04:10:01
October 22 2019 02:42 GMT
#1426
On October 22 2019 11:36 Falling wrote:
@Ben
I agree 100%.
It's actually unbelievable how many opportunities there were. Even though it was an incumbent government, there were so many softballs.

Real Median After Tax Income Rose by 3.3% from 2016 and 2017 ... and based on the preliminary #s out there it appears there was another similar jump from 2017 to 2018. Also, just based on "feel" , in southern Ontario at least things are still rockin' in 2019 like they have been the past 2 years.

When the economy is rockin' this good the incumbent usually wins... usually they win big.
Trudeau expressed this success another way ... by stating the # of children no longer living in poverty. I think it was 900,000 Canadians over all and 300,000 children.

If Trump's tenure includes an annual Real Median After Tax Income increase of 3.3% or better each year ... the 2020 election will be a repeat of Reagan's 1984 sweep.

In conclusion, I'm not surprised Trudeau skated past several foibles....the economy is rockin'
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
October 22 2019 02:44 GMT
#1427
On October 22 2019 11:41 PhoenixVoid wrote:
So far the PPC can't even muster a single seat. I have to admit I'm smiling a bit at seeing Bernier fail miserably at fomenting some kind of far-right movement. The Bloc's had a very solid showing, while the NDP hasn't seen their late Singh popularity surge translate into seats.

Mad Max is losing to a Conservative hahah
© Current year.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-22 02:52:14
October 22 2019 02:50 GMT
#1428
So far the Liberals have 149 seats and the NDP have 24, which makes 173. There's a path for a coalition there.

Confirmed the Conservatives have taken Bernier's seat. While the CBC hosts are being neutral I'd bet there's some satisfaction in reporting the guy who wanted them defunded is reduced like this.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16716 Posts
October 22 2019 02:50 GMT
#1429
weren't the NDP polling at 20% popular vote on the weekend?
are there that many NDP votes in BC or was the poll just wrong?
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
October 22 2019 02:51 GMT
#1430
its pretty early for BC
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16716 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-22 02:58:54
October 22 2019 02:54 GMT
#1431
Joe Clark became PM in 1979 on 35.89% of the popular vote.
Trudeau is at 34.1% right now.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11355 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-22 03:07:02
October 22 2019 03:04 GMT
#1432
It's amazing how much more efficient the Liberal vote is. Trudeau was smart to kill electoral reform, I guess. No punishment at all for that broken promise. Last election indeed.
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
October 22 2019 03:05 GMT
#1433
Conservatives have a .2% lead in the popular vote
smh
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-22 03:09:04
October 22 2019 03:06 GMT
#1434
And that is why Trudeau reneged on proportional representation lol.

I heard a CBC reporter say the NDP's results were actually below Mulcair in 2015.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16716 Posts
October 22 2019 03:07 GMT
#1435
meh, i like the system the way it is.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-22 03:13:54
October 22 2019 03:07 GMT
#1436
On October 22 2019 11:50 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
weren't the NDP polling at 20% popular vote on the weekend?
are there that many NDP votes in BC or was the poll just wrong?

Both the NDP and Greens were off compared to their polling. The NDP are down a bit, the Greens are down a lot.

On October 22 2019 12:06 PhoenixVoid wrote:
And that is why Trudeau reneged on proportional representation lol.

I heard a CBC reporter say the NDP's results were actually below Mulcair in 2015.

It is technically, but given a month ago the NDP were on track to only get about 10-14 seats, and things had been looking that way for a long time, they've done okay to mitigate damage by nearly matching their past result.

They did get wiped out in Quebec though by the looks of things. The Bloc took nearly all their seats.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
October 22 2019 03:19 GMT
#1437
On October 22 2019 12:06 PhoenixVoid wrote:
And that is why Trudeau reneged on proportional representation lol.

I heard a CBC reporter say the NDP's results were actually below Mulcair in 2015.


Kicking out Mulcair was one of the worst decision in canadian politics, the guy did the second best score in the history of the party.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16716 Posts
October 22 2019 03:21 GMT
#1438
1 other quick point about the "economy is rocking" stats I presented. IMO, the economy is doing better than the #s indicate. The #s indicate things are good. I think things are better than good. Things are better than the #s indicate.

I say things are better than the #s indicate because the underground economy is a lot bigger due to the minimum wage skyrocketing and increased labour regs. If Ontario had the equivalent of the 1981 minimum wage of $2.65/hour today it would be $7/hour. The Ontario minimum wage is $14.

The CRA is well aware of the booming underground economy and going to interesting lengths to get people to pay their taxes.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
October 22 2019 03:26 GMT
#1439
If the prairies, especially Alberta, wanted to declare their grievances, they did it this year. The region turns even bluer and ousted Ralph Goodale. Lot of anti-Trudeau sentiment and feeling they are not being respected with the oil industry bubbling up into this.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-22 03:52:44
October 22 2019 03:33 GMT
#1440
The Liberals lost Ralph Goodale. The Cons lost Lisa Raitt. Big names on both parts.

Lisa Raitt was being pointed to as a potential leader to replace Scheer so this seems pretty big. She's being interviewed by CBC right now and in the span of this 1 minute interview she's shown more personality than Scheer has in the entire election campaign.
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