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On October 22 2019 11:28 Lmui wrote: I'm hoping that Liberals get enough that the NDP or NDP + green hold the balance of power.
I don't really want the BQ having a gigantic say at the table. BQ currently doing well but I guess BC votes haven’t come in yet.
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Canada11262 Posts
@Ben I agree 100%. It's actually unbelievable how many opportunities there were. Even though it was an incumbent government, there were so many softballs.
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The cons are doing ~14 seats better than 2015 Harper so there's that.
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So far the PPC can't even muster a single seat. I have to admit I'm smiling a bit at seeing Bernier fail miserably at fomenting some kind of far-right movement. The Bloc's had a very solid showing, while the NDP hasn't seen their late Singh popularity surge translate into seats.
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Canada8988 Posts
Lib-NDP should just about snuck out a majority
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On October 22 2019 11:36 Falling wrote: @Ben I agree 100%. It's actually unbelievable how many opportunities there were. Even though it was an incumbent government, there were so many softballs. Real Median After Tax Income Rose by 3.3% from 2016 and 2017 ... and based on the preliminary #s out there it appears there was another similar jump from 2017 to 2018. Also, just based on "feel" , in southern Ontario at least things are still rockin' in 2019 like they have been the past 2 years.
When the economy is rockin' this good the incumbent usually wins... usually they win big. Trudeau expressed this success another way ... by stating the # of children no longer living in poverty. I think it was 900,000 Canadians over all and 300,000 children.
If Trump's tenure includes an annual Real Median After Tax Income increase of 3.3% or better each year ... the 2020 election will be a repeat of Reagan's 1984 sweep.
In conclusion, I'm not surprised Trudeau skated past several foibles....the economy is rockin'
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On October 22 2019 11:41 PhoenixVoid wrote: So far the PPC can't even muster a single seat. I have to admit I'm smiling a bit at seeing Bernier fail miserably at fomenting some kind of far-right movement. The Bloc's had a very solid showing, while the NDP hasn't seen their late Singh popularity surge translate into seats. Mad Max is losing to a Conservative hahah
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So far the Liberals have 149 seats and the NDP have 24, which makes 173. There's a path for a coalition there.
Confirmed the Conservatives have taken Bernier's seat. While the CBC hosts are being neutral I'd bet there's some satisfaction in reporting the guy who wanted them defunded is reduced like this.
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weren't the NDP polling at 20% popular vote on the weekend? are there that many NDP votes in BC or was the poll just wrong?
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Joe Clark became PM in 1979 on 35.89% of the popular vote. Trudeau is at 34.1% right now.
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Canada11262 Posts
It's amazing how much more efficient the Liberal vote is. Trudeau was smart to kill electoral reform, I guess. No punishment at all for that broken promise. Last election indeed.
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Conservatives have a .2% lead in the popular vote smh
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And that is why Trudeau reneged on proportional representation lol.
I heard a CBC reporter say the NDP's results were actually below Mulcair in 2015.
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meh, i like the system the way it is.
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On October 22 2019 11:50 JimmyJRaynor wrote: weren't the NDP polling at 20% popular vote on the weekend? are there that many NDP votes in BC or was the poll just wrong? Both the NDP and Greens were off compared to their polling. The NDP are down a bit, the Greens are down a lot.
On October 22 2019 12:06 PhoenixVoid wrote: And that is why Trudeau reneged on proportional representation lol.
I heard a CBC reporter say the NDP's results were actually below Mulcair in 2015. It is technically, but given a month ago the NDP were on track to only get about 10-14 seats, and things had been looking that way for a long time, they've done okay to mitigate damage by nearly matching their past result.
They did get wiped out in Quebec though by the looks of things. The Bloc took nearly all their seats.
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Canada8988 Posts
On October 22 2019 12:06 PhoenixVoid wrote: And that is why Trudeau reneged on proportional representation lol.
I heard a CBC reporter say the NDP's results were actually below Mulcair in 2015.
Kicking out Mulcair was one of the worst decision in canadian politics, the guy did the second best score in the history of the party.
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1 other quick point about the "economy is rocking" stats I presented. IMO, the economy is doing better than the #s indicate. The #s indicate things are good. I think things are better than good. Things are better than the #s indicate.
I say things are better than the #s indicate because the underground economy is a lot bigger due to the minimum wage skyrocketing and increased labour regs. If Ontario had the equivalent of the 1981 minimum wage of $2.65/hour today it would be $7/hour. The Ontario minimum wage is $14.
The CRA is well aware of the booming underground economy and going to interesting lengths to get people to pay their taxes.
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If the prairies, especially Alberta, wanted to declare their grievances, they did it this year. The region turns even bluer and ousted Ralph Goodale. Lot of anti-Trudeau sentiment and feeling they are not being respected with the oil industry bubbling up into this.
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The Liberals lost Ralph Goodale. The Cons lost Lisa Raitt. Big names on both parts.
Lisa Raitt was being pointed to as a potential leader to replace Scheer so this seems pretty big. She's being interviewed by CBC right now and in the span of this 1 minute interview she's shown more personality than Scheer has in the entire election campaign.
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