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Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
January 07 2015 06:26 GMT
#321
Fresh monte tweets from today about the news.



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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 06:35:13
January 07 2015 06:34 GMT
#322
it sound indeed sound like time to leverage the power of riot unapproval, just to try it out
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
January 07 2015 06:49 GMT
#323
Welp, Monte pretty mean on that.
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NonFactor
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden698 Posts
January 07 2015 07:04 GMT
#324
On January 07 2015 15:04 johnbongham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 10:29 NonFactor wrote:
On January 07 2015 05:47 Jaaaaasper wrote:
On January 07 2015 05:39 Canucklehead wrote:
On January 07 2015 05:34 johnbongham wrote:
On January 07 2015 05:30 Canucklehead wrote:
On January 07 2015 04:56 NonFactor wrote:
Considering how anti-LoL TL has been in the past, happy to see some progress finally. Too bad TL is years late to the party.


Indeed and that was pointed out by monte cristo when the rumours of TL getting into LoL started.











How big of a passive aggressive crybaby does somebody have to get mad because an esports team didnt find the time/budget/resources to get involved in their esport of choice?


Nah monte is right in this case. TL was anti lol for a very long time. Do you know how long it took them to even acknowledge that LoL world finals was going on and to feature that stream on the side bar? I remember cause I used to joke about it with a friend about how much TL wanted to pretend that LoL didn't even exist. Their staff was very pro dota 2 and anti lol because they liked dota 2 more to play.

I mean its their site, if who ever it was who left didn't like it they were always free to start their own. TL has always and will always cover what they're interested in covering, not what is most popular (hence never covering halo or CS or waiting this long to get involed in the FGC in any way.) Monte can bite me


Naturally, this is their site and organisation and they get to do exactly what they want, that doesn't mean it's not scummy. The hate on LoL on these forums was massive when it became clear that LoL would be the flagship of e-sports. But it wasn't just the community, TL staff took part in it too. And now they are all happy and excited to be part of the LoL e-sports scene? After, like mentioned, systematically trying to ignore the whole thing even existed?

There's a difference between simply not picking up a game because your not interested, and not pick up the game due to ''hardcore gamer'' elitism and envy. In which one do you think TL falls? Especially a few years back when LoL rose and made it clear that SC2 would never be the e-sport it was hyped up to be? When the Koreans chose LoL over SC2 and Dota 2? The salt on this forum was a sight to behold. (I know, because I was one of the salty ones, I wanted SC2 to succeed so badly. I refused to be a StarCraft elitist though.)

If you honestly think TL suddenly got interested in LoL after years of shitting on it, then you're naive. This has nothing to do with interest. It has to do with the fact that Dota 2 failed to deliver on it's promise to be the ''LoL killer'' it was hyped out to be, which means LoL will stay as the un-disputed flagship of e-sports for the years to come.

This is a BUSINESS move from TL to tap into a bigger market and bigger scene, nothing more. A good one at that, even if it means supporting a ''game for casuals'' like LoL.


The flagship of esports? And you want to talk about elitism? Dude, me and countless others have been following esports for over a decade and don't give a shit about LoL or what game they want to play in Korea. To me, CS is the best esport and they play a joke version of it in Korea. Doesn't make it any less legitimate. This is like saying that soccer is the flagship 'real' sport because its played by the most people in the most countries. Who cares? To me and many others, soccer is terrible. This isn't a competition between games. You sound like a 13 year old. For real though, just as many people dislike LoL as there are those who enjoy it. I can't even watch it for more than 15 seconds before turning it off because it is so unappealing and unexciting. Good on TL for expanding into new games though. Everybody deserves a chance to play and support the game they choose. Quit whining.

Edit: Also, wouldn't you think the most popular game would also be the game played by the most casuals? Its ok that LoL is a casual game with a healthy pro scene - every game is played casually by many people. LoL just has the most of em because its free and easy to get into which translates into a stronger business which is what Riot is: a business.


Huh? Facts =/= elitism. LoL is the biggest and most recognized e-sport inside AND outside the gaming world. If you're too blind due to fanboyism to see that, then that's your problem. And yes...? Soccer was in many ways a flagship sport and, indeed, for a massive part of the world it still is today. And at no point did I suggest that LoL is the only ''real'' e-sport.

A question, what is your definition of a ''flagship'' e-sport game? What gives a game that title? Apparenly it's not having the most popularity or recognition, nor worldwide tournament infrastructure.

I never said this was a competition between games? You keep putting words into my mouth.Then you go on a rant about how you can't enjoy watching soccer or LoL? OK. I don't see how that in any shape or form related to what I posted, but thanks for sharing. Also, I didn't say anywhere that TL doesn't have the right to play or support the game. Of course they do.

It seems like you COMPLETELY missed the point of my whole post. I suggest you re-read my post. It has very little to do with ''what game is best'' or ''what game is the most fun to watch'', but more to do with TLs past negative attitude towards LoL and the near 180 change that took place.

Edit: Also, wouldn't you think the most popular game would also be the game played by the most casuals? Its ok that LoL is a casual game with a healthy pro scene - every game is played casually by many people. LoL just has the most of em because its free and easy to get into which translates into a stronger business which is what Riot is: a business.


What? Again, I think you missed the point of that last line. I was referring to the old way of thinking (used to be very common here on TL a few years back) that LoL is a casual game that takes no skill, which is why it's popular. LoL has been referred to as a ''game for casuals'' for years now, by the SC / Dota community especially. It has to do with the envy part I mentioned in my post.

Naturally one would expect the most popular game to have the most amount of casuals, simply due to the volume of gamers. That should be obvious.
NR
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Romania109 Posts
January 07 2015 07:25 GMT
#325
Awesome job for Liquid and Curse, have been waiting for this since forever. Looking forward to how this will go.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
January 07 2015 07:25 GMT
#326
On January 07 2015 05:45 johnbongham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 05:43 WindWolf wrote:
On January 07 2015 05:40 johnbongham wrote:
On January 07 2015 05:39 Canucklehead wrote:
On January 07 2015 05:34 johnbongham wrote:
On January 07 2015 05:30 Canucklehead wrote:
On January 07 2015 04:56 NonFactor wrote:
Considering how anti-LoL TL has been in the past, happy to see some progress finally. Too bad TL is years late to the party.


Indeed and that was pointed out by monte cristo when the rumours of TL getting into LoL started.

https://twitter.com/ggCMonteCristo/status/546669321246613505

https://twitter.com/TL_Darkhorse/status/546684568091508737

https://twitter.com/ggCMonteCristo/status/546686864946524162

https://twitter.com/TL_Darkhorse/status/546687752134463488

https://twitter.com/ggCMonteCristo/status/546689027848425472


How big of a passive aggressive crybaby does somebody have to get mad because an esports team didnt find the time/budget/resources to get involved in their esport of choice?


Nah monte is right in this case. TL was anti lol for a very long time. Do you know how long it took them to even acknowledge that LoL world finals was going on and to feature that stream on the side bar? I remember cause I used to joke about it with a friend about how much TL wanted to pretend that LoL didn't even exist.



Yeah, and I am a huge cs fan and you don't see me complaining that csgo on liquid is limited to a single thread in the 'other games' section. Different sites gravitate towards different games.

Has Liquid ever featured CSGO majors in the sidebar?


Nope but that hasn't stopped the game from shattering viewership expectations

That's true. But if you are going to feature Evo and LoL in the side stream before they got official sites, IMO you should also feature the CSGO Majors
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graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
January 07 2015 07:37 GMT
#327
On January 07 2015 15:34 Kupon3ss wrote:
it sound indeed sound like time to leverage the power of riot unapproval, just to try it out


has any riot ever sounded differently?
"just try it out" is just another elitism slang for " we know it better"

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packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
January 07 2015 07:43 GMT
#328
Interesting to see TL get into LoL. I think people are kind of making a big deal out of nothing with how long it took TL to make the site. It was a long time before liquiddota came around and TL even had a Dota 2 team for a while during that time. Its only recently that they've moved to having separate sites for the separate communities (with the exception of LiquidPoker) and since LoL is the one that TL has had the least official involvement thus far, it makes sense that a separate LoL forum would come later.
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Ler
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Germany543 Posts
January 07 2015 08:01 GMT
#329
picking up curse network jeez! tl stronk now o:
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
January 07 2015 08:11 GMT
#330
i am excited for the drama this may or may not cause

also money
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Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3820 Posts
January 07 2015 08:11 GMT
#331
I dont give a rats about LoL, however a massive congrats to Liquid & Curse and best of luck to the merged organisation going forward!
harryxd
Profile Joined June 2014
United Kingdom3 Posts
January 07 2015 08:12 GMT
#332
A fantastic announcement and initial moves by both parties. Super excited for what's next
HeatEXTEND
Profile Joined October 2012
Netherlands836 Posts
January 07 2015 08:25 GMT
#333
On January 07 2015 16:04 NonFactor wrote:
LoL has been referred to as a ''game for casuals'' for years now, by the SC / Dota community especially. It has to do with the envy part I mentioned in my post.


I'm going to have to stop you there buddy, envy has nothing to do with it. Carry on.
knuckle
Baadbeat
Profile Joined June 2011
France203 Posts
January 07 2015 08:26 GMT
#334
This is so huge! Congrats to everyone envolved and all the best to the new TL.LoL!
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10151 Posts
January 07 2015 08:34 GMT
#335
looks like im a curse fan now. er excuse me, TL fan ^^
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TheRidd
Profile Joined January 2011
713 Posts
January 07 2015 08:37 GMT
#336
Meh. But now you have enough money to buy Secret right ?
ApocalypseFire
Profile Joined January 2015
Singapore1 Post
January 07 2015 08:55 GMT
#337
Holy shit
League is the fucking dream
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2279 Posts
January 07 2015 09:20 GMT
#338
I have only one question about this. Is Liquid going to be named Liquid.Liquid?
NonFactor
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden698 Posts
January 07 2015 09:27 GMT
#339
On January 07 2015 17:25 HeatEXTEND wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 16:04 NonFactor wrote:
LoL has been referred to as a ''game for casuals'' for years now, by the SC / Dota community especially. It has to do with the envy part I mentioned in my post.


I'm going to have to stop you there buddy, envy has nothing to do with it. Carry on.


Envy, saltiness, being butthurt. Call it whatever you want, but if you honestly think that the SC2 / Dota 2 community wasn't upset over the fact that LoL turned out to be way more successful as a game and as an e-sport, then you're delusional.
Shatterfront
Profile Joined August 2013
Australia77 Posts
January 07 2015 09:33 GMT
#340
On January 07 2015 14:49 Slaughter wrote:
Is Saint still the coach for Curse/Liquid?


No, Peter Zhang is their Head Coach. Saint wasn't coaching the main Curse team.
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