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Mutineer
New Zealand179 Posts
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On July 18 2014 02:12 ahswtini wrote: This is probably the end of Malaysian airlines too Probably not no? Why would you say that? | ||
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mdb
Bulgaria4059 Posts
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whiteLotus
1833 Posts
On July 18 2014 02:14 Mutineer wrote: It might have been a good idea NOT to fly on top of know conflict area. im really interested who makes the paths for them ? i mean surely the pilots dont just pick the straight line and go lol, someone has to make a path for them right ? who the hell picks area like that | ||
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DarkEnergy
Netherlands542 Posts
On July 18 2014 02:16 mdb wrote: @mods - everything at this point is speculations. what are we supposed to discuss here? ramifications of this event politically ? | ||
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Nisyax
Netherlands756 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 18 2014 02:16 mdb wrote: @mods - everything at this point is speculations. what are we supposed to discuss here? Likely nothing until new information is available. Keeps people from throwing baseless claims around. Its the old math rule, if you are going to claim something as fact, show your work. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On July 18 2014 02:10 Grettin wrote: If there are multiple boxes, I don't see why one couldn't be handed over to Malaysian Airlines. EDIT: It is also highly unlikely that the Ukrainian military is responsible. I mean, why would they be using anti-aircraft missiles if there haven't been any aircraft to shoot down in the first place? | ||
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
well if people stop taking their airline cause bad shit keeps happening to their planes? (whether that's valid or not, you know there will be people with that view) | ||
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gruff
Sweden2276 Posts
Two high profile crashes in a year is a lot more than some airlines have gone away for. No idea if they will, just saying. | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On July 18 2014 02:18 gruff wrote: Two high profile crashes in a year is a lot more than some airlines have gone away for. No idea if they will, just saying. And who's going to replace them? AirAsia? Sure, people might think once or twice before flying with them, but i really doubt they are going to disappear. | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On July 18 2014 02:16 mdb wrote: @mods - everything at this point is speculations. what are we supposed to discuss here? Here is an example of what happens when speculation is allowed to run wild in a discussing pertaining to a sensitive political crisis. You may discuss the information currently available and the ramifications of the crash, as long as this is done without attacking anyone. If you can back your speculation with factually based arguments then fine, but randomly attacking Ukraine/Russia/NATO/JFK is a no-go. | ||
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
On July 18 2014 02:19 Grettin wrote: And who's going to replace them? AirAsia? Sure, people might think once or twice before flying with them, but i really doubt they are going to disappear. replace? other airlines will just take the customers. aren't they in pretty bad shape financially? at least i think i heard that when the other plane disappeared earlier this year. so if they lose even more customers, they could go out of business? | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On July 18 2014 02:18 gruff wrote: Two high profile crashes in a year is a lot more than some airlines have gone away for. No idea if they will, just saying. If there is enough competition to replace them maybe. | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On July 18 2014 02:21 zev318 wrote: replace? other airlines will just take the customers. aren't they in pretty bad shape financially? at least i think i heard that when the other plane disappeared earlier this year. so if they lose even more customers, they could go out of business? I don't know about the finances. Just seems unthinkable to see them going out of business. But i guess we'll see. | ||
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
at 0:16 It was posted at 17:50 Moscow time today and says: In the region of Torez [we] shot down an airplane AN-26, it fell down somewhere near "Progress" mine We warned not to fly over "our sky". Here is a video of the "birdfall". The bird fell down over the terricon, the living quarters [of the town] were not damaged. Civilians didn't get hurt. We also have information about another airplane shot down Ukrainian officials didn't confirm any AN-26 shot down today as of now. | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On July 18 2014 02:21 zev318 wrote: replace? other airlines will just take the customers. aren't they in pretty bad shape financially? at least i think i heard that when the other plane disappeared earlier this year. so if they lose even more customers, they could go out of business? It might look bad, and people actively flying on those routes might feel scared but the way most people buy air travel is by price so its hard to see how the airline will go away. Especially since they probably hold pretty lucrative landing slots in London and Amsterdam too, they wont just give that up and call it a day. | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
about time, i guess... | ||
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rd
United States2586 Posts
On July 18 2014 02:04 zeo wrote: Exactly, I'm sure there will be an investigation (of course) and people can find out just what hit it, how, etc. Given the controversy surrounding the crash during a time of conflict, my expectations of any objective investigation without significant bias is slim. Both sides have an incentive to claim different results from an "investigation," regardless of whether or not they're legit. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On July 18 2014 02:14 Mutineer wrote: It might have been a good idea NOT to fly on top of know conflict area. it's also not a good idea to shoot down commercial airliners that have absolutely nothing to do with the conflict. | ||
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