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In order to maintain some kind of respectable thread quality and to show some respect for those who lost friends in this tragedy, we're forced to enact a hard line policy for this thread. Any posts holding an opinion on who is responsible or making an accusation that is not held by neutral media will be banned. Policy is in effect from page 27 onwards.

Specifically, citing a Ukrainian or Russian source for your claims is going to get you banned. Opinions/facts/accusations arising from neutral media sources (i.e. media whose country of origin is not Ukraine, Russia or one of its puppet states) will be permitted. This policy extends to all forms of media; if a youtube video or picture has not come through a neutral media source then don't post it or you'll be banned. If you wish to discuss this policy please use this website feedback thread.

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Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
July 17 2014 16:57 GMT
#81
On July 18 2014 01:54 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2014 01:51 zeo wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:48 ahswtini wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:46 zeo wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:45 Nyxisto wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:42 Plansix wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:40 Nyxisto wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:37 zeo wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:35 ahswtini wrote:
Ukrainian rebels claim it was Ukrainian forces, they deny having such high-tech weaponry.

what a load of shit

I'm sure you know exactly what happened because you were there...

Can you remind me which of the two parties has been shooting down planes and helicopters for the last few months?

Wait, your telling me the rebels don't have a functional airforce? Thats totally weird. I guess that explains why only one side has been shooting down flying stuff.

More importantly it explains who shot down this plane.

No it doesn't.

Ok I guess it was a #conspiracy by Ukraine to shoot down the plane to blame it on the rebels, right?

We just don't know, jumping to conclusions does not help. Saying that you know one side is to blame 5 min after the fact is silly.

I guess the separatists boasting they had downed a "Ukranian AN-26" are now regretting it


And quickly deleting their posts...
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alypse
Profile Joined May 2010
2771 Posts
July 17 2014 16:57 GMT
#82
On July 18 2014 01:50 Grettin wrote:
Crash site.. God.
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[image loading]


Jesus F. Christ
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 17 2014 16:59 GMT
#83
On July 18 2014 01:57 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2014 01:54 ahswtini wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:51 zeo wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:48 ahswtini wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:46 zeo wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:45 Nyxisto wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:42 Plansix wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:40 Nyxisto wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:37 zeo wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:35 ahswtini wrote:
Ukrainian rebels claim it was Ukrainian forces, they deny having such high-tech weaponry.

what a load of shit

I'm sure you know exactly what happened because you were there...

Can you remind me which of the two parties has been shooting down planes and helicopters for the last few months?

Wait, your telling me the rebels don't have a functional airforce? Thats totally weird. I guess that explains why only one side has been shooting down flying stuff.

More importantly it explains who shot down this plane.

No it doesn't.

Ok I guess it was a #conspiracy by Ukraine to shoot down the plane to blame it on the rebels, right?

We just don't know, jumping to conclusions does not help. Saying that you know one side is to blame 5 min after the fact is silly.

I guess the separatists boasting they had downed a "Ukranian AN-26" are now regretting it


And quickly deleting their posts...

To bad people have already recorded them to assure everyone knows. Silly rebels, not understanding the internet.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6334 Posts
July 17 2014 16:59 GMT
#84
On July 18 2014 01:51 Roggay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2014 01:46 zeo wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:45 Nyxisto wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:42 Plansix wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:40 Nyxisto wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:37 zeo wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:35 ahswtini wrote:
Ukrainian rebels claim it was Ukrainian forces, they deny having such high-tech weaponry.

what a load of shit

I'm sure you know exactly what happened because you were there...

Can you remind me which of the two parties has been shooting down planes and helicopters for the last few months?

Wait, your telling me the rebels don't have a functional airforce? Thats totally weird. I guess that explains why only one side has been shooting down flying stuff.

More importantly it explains who shot down this plane.

No it doesn't.

edit: the anti-government forces simply do not have the hardware capable of taking down a plane at that altitude.

Didnt they boast having such capabilities?
Plus they did report shooting down a plane.
And the kiev has no interest shooting at any plane, which can only be their own or russian (which they really have no interest in shooting down).

You mean the same sources people in the last thread said were laughable propaganda?

The Kiev military just got routed and completely collapsed south of Donetsk yesterday. With the tides turning in their favor the last thing they need is a civilian plane being shot down.
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain
Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
July 17 2014 17:02 GMT
#85
Another crash site image from that news site. Warning: graphic, don't look if you're a lightweight.

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[image loading]
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
whiteLotus
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
1833 Posts
July 17 2014 17:02 GMT
#86
btw BUK system is soviet/russian made so yeah..
The bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 17 2014 17:02 GMT
#87
On July 18 2014 01:59 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2014 01:51 Roggay wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:46 zeo wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:45 Nyxisto wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:42 Plansix wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:40 Nyxisto wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:37 zeo wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:35 ahswtini wrote:
Ukrainian rebels claim it was Ukrainian forces, they deny having such high-tech weaponry.

what a load of shit

I'm sure you know exactly what happened because you were there...

Can you remind me which of the two parties has been shooting down planes and helicopters for the last few months?

Wait, your telling me the rebels don't have a functional airforce? Thats totally weird. I guess that explains why only one side has been shooting down flying stuff.

More importantly it explains who shot down this plane.

No it doesn't.

edit: the anti-government forces simply do not have the hardware capable of taking down a plane at that altitude.

Didnt they boast having such capabilities?
Plus they did report shooting down a plane.
And the kiev has no interest shooting at any plane, which can only be their own or russian (which they really have no interest in shooting down).

You mean the same sources people in the last thread said were laughable propaganda?

The Kiev military just got routed and completely collapsed south of Donetsk yesterday. With the tides turning in their favor the last thing they need is a civilian plane being shot down.

Which is likely why they deleted the social media posts soon after the news was released. One thing is for sure, the plane did not fall from the sky for no reason.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
July 17 2014 17:03 GMT
#88
On July 18 2014 01:59 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2014 01:51 Roggay wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:46 zeo wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:45 Nyxisto wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:42 Plansix wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:40 Nyxisto wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:37 zeo wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:35 ahswtini wrote:
Ukrainian rebels claim it was Ukrainian forces, they deny having such high-tech weaponry.

what a load of shit

I'm sure you know exactly what happened because you were there...

Can you remind me which of the two parties has been shooting down planes and helicopters for the last few months?

Wait, your telling me the rebels don't have a functional airforce? Thats totally weird. I guess that explains why only one side has been shooting down flying stuff.

More importantly it explains who shot down this plane.

No it doesn't.

edit: the anti-government forces simply do not have the hardware capable of taking down a plane at that altitude.

Didnt they boast having such capabilities?
Plus they did report shooting down a plane.
And the kiev has no interest shooting at any plane, which can only be their own or russian (which they really have no interest in shooting down).

You mean the same sources people in the last thread said were laughable propaganda?

The Kiev military just got routed and completely collapsed south of Donetsk yesterday. With the tides turning in their favor the last thing they need is a civilian plane being shot down.

Well, who thinks rebels wanted to shot down civilian plane? Rebels though it was ukrainian military plane..
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6334 Posts
July 17 2014 17:04 GMT
#89
On July 18 2014 02:02 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2014 01:59 zeo wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:51 Roggay wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:46 zeo wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:45 Nyxisto wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:42 Plansix wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:40 Nyxisto wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:37 zeo wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:35 ahswtini wrote:
Ukrainian rebels claim it was Ukrainian forces, they deny having such high-tech weaponry.

what a load of shit

I'm sure you know exactly what happened because you were there...

Can you remind me which of the two parties has been shooting down planes and helicopters for the last few months?

Wait, your telling me the rebels don't have a functional airforce? Thats totally weird. I guess that explains why only one side has been shooting down flying stuff.

More importantly it explains who shot down this plane.

No it doesn't.

edit: the anti-government forces simply do not have the hardware capable of taking down a plane at that altitude.

Didnt they boast having such capabilities?
Plus they did report shooting down a plane.
And the kiev has no interest shooting at any plane, which can only be their own or russian (which they really have no interest in shooting down).

You mean the same sources people in the last thread said were laughable propaganda?

The Kiev military just got routed and completely collapsed south of Donetsk yesterday. With the tides turning in their favor the last thing they need is a civilian plane being shot down.

Which is likely why they deleted the social media posts soon after the news was released. One thing is for sure, the plane did not fall from the sky for no reason.

Exactly, I'm sure there will be an investigation (of course) and people can find out just what hit it, how, etc.
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
July 17 2014 17:04 GMT
#90
This is a sensitive topic. Any claims not sufficiently backed by facts (sources) will be moderated. Any post attacking someone else - be it Ukraine, Russia or another user - will be moderated. Let's keep this thread civil.
AdministratorBreak the chains
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
July 17 2014 17:04 GMT
#91
On July 18 2014 01:59 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2014 01:51 Roggay wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:46 zeo wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:45 Nyxisto wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:42 Plansix wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:40 Nyxisto wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:37 zeo wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:35 ahswtini wrote:
Ukrainian rebels claim it was Ukrainian forces, they deny having such high-tech weaponry.

what a load of shit

I'm sure you know exactly what happened because you were there...

Can you remind me which of the two parties has been shooting down planes and helicopters for the last few months?

Wait, your telling me the rebels don't have a functional airforce? Thats totally weird. I guess that explains why only one side has been shooting down flying stuff.

More importantly it explains who shot down this plane.

No it doesn't.

edit: the anti-government forces simply do not have the hardware capable of taking down a plane at that altitude.

Didnt they boast having such capabilities?
Plus they did report shooting down a plane.
And the kiev has no interest shooting at any plane, which can only be their own or russian (which they really have no interest in shooting down).

You mean the same sources people in the last thread said were laughable propaganda?

The Kiev military just got routed and completely collapsed south of Donetsk yesterday. With the tides turning in their favor the last thing they need is a civilian plane being shot down.

Yea ofc. No one shoots at a civilian airplane volountarily, but they could have mistaken it for an ukrainian plane. After all, they did boast about shooting down a cargo plane.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18559 Posts
July 17 2014 17:05 GMT
#92
oh my god... what a tragedy...

omg those poor people...
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6334 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-17 17:08:30
July 17 2014 17:06 GMT
#93
On July 18 2014 02:04 Zealously wrote:
This is a sensitive topic. Any claims not sufficiently backed by facts (sources) will be moderated. Any post attacking someone else - be it Ukraine, Russia or another user - will be moderated. Let's keep this thread civil.

One thing to ask. Ukraine thread is forbidden? No talking about anything other than the plane? What is the mod stance?

Whatever it is put it at the top of the thread (it should be more clear).
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain
crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
July 17 2014 17:08 GMT
#94
Is there a video of the actual shootdown? Someone PM me it if its too sensitive for this thread
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
July 17 2014 17:10 GMT
#95
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
July 17 2014 17:10 GMT
#96
of course moscow will give us the truth!
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
July 17 2014 17:11 GMT
#97
On July 18 2014 02:06 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2014 02:04 Zealously wrote:
This is a sensitive topic. Any claims not sufficiently backed by facts (sources) will be moderated. Any post attacking someone else - be it Ukraine, Russia or another user - will be moderated. Let's keep this thread civil.

One thing to ask. Ukraine thread is forbidden? No talking about anything other than the plane? What is the mod stance?

Whatever it is put it at the top of the thread (it should be more clear).


The Ukraine thread was ultimately locked because the discussion could not remain civil no matter how much we tried to steer it in the right direction. Unfortunately, the same rules have to apply here.
AdministratorBreak the chains
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
July 17 2014 17:12 GMT
#98
Sounds like a good way to shut a discussion down by being not civil.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22211 Posts
July 17 2014 17:12 GMT
#99
This is probably the end of Malaysian airlines too
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
July 17 2014 17:14 GMT
#100
On July 18 2014 02:12 ahswtini wrote:
This is probably the end of Malaysian airlines too


And why would you think that?
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
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