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In order to maintain some kind of respectable thread quality and to show some respect for those who lost friends in this tragedy, we're forced to enact a hard line policy for this thread. Any posts holding an opinion on who is responsible or making an accusation that is not held by neutral media will be banned. Policy is in effect from page 27 onwards.

Specifically, citing a Ukrainian or Russian source for your claims is going to get you banned. Opinions/facts/accusations arising from neutral media sources (i.e. media whose country of origin is not Ukraine, Russia or one of its puppet states) will be permitted. This policy extends to all forms of media; if a youtube video or picture has not come through a neutral media source then don't post it or you'll be banned. If you wish to discuss this policy please use this website feedback thread.

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jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
July 17 2014 16:31 GMT
#41
On July 18 2014 01:18 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Ofc there must be consequences. You simply don't shoot down civilian airliner and expect nothing will happen.


There has been many shootdowns and many without consequences. Its fucked up.
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Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
July 17 2014 16:31 GMT
#42
On July 18 2014 01:26 Warlock40 wrote:
Why are they even flying over a war zone? I know nothing about aviation procedures, but surely flights over any conflict are strictly avoided at all costs?

If it was considered an active warzone, NATO would've designated it a no-fly zone. It, unfortunately, wasn't.

Ukraine's saying it was hit by a Buk SAM system. The rebels obtained one two days ago.
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
July 17 2014 16:33 GMT
#43
On July 18 2014 01:31 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2014 01:26 Warlock40 wrote:
Why are they even flying over a war zone? I know nothing about aviation procedures, but surely flights over any conflict are strictly avoided at all costs?

If it was considered an active warzone, NATO would've designated it a no-fly zone. It, unfortunately, wasn't.

Ukraine's saying it was hit by a Buk SAM system. The rebels obtained one two days ago.


It's not a no-fly zone? What are they smoking, damn.
Feel so sorry for these poor people.
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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-17 16:35:55
July 17 2014 16:34 GMT
#44


You see how much planes was going to flying over that area? But not anymore...
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
July 17 2014 16:34 GMT
#45
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
July 17 2014 16:34 GMT
#46
On July 18 2014 01:33 Steveling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2014 01:31 Daralii wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:26 Warlock40 wrote:
Why are they even flying over a war zone? I know nothing about aviation procedures, but surely flights over any conflict are strictly avoided at all costs?

If it was considered an active warzone, NATO would've designated it a no-fly zone. It, unfortunately, wasn't.

Ukraine's saying it was hit by a Buk SAM system. The rebels obtained one two days ago.


It's not a no-fly zone? What are they smoking, damn.
Feel so sorry for these poor people.

If it was a no fly zone like Russia was pushing for it to be Kiev wouldn't be able to bomb cities in the east.
Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-17 16:35:37
July 17 2014 16:35 GMT
#47
On July 18 2014 01:33 Steveling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2014 01:31 Daralii wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:26 Warlock40 wrote:
Why are they even flying over a war zone? I know nothing about aviation procedures, but surely flights over any conflict are strictly avoided at all costs?

If it was considered an active warzone, NATO would've designated it a no-fly zone. It, unfortunately, wasn't.

Ukraine's saying it was hit by a Buk SAM system. The rebels obtained one two days ago.


It's not a no-fly zone? What are they smoking, damn.
Feel so sorry for these poor people.

It's probably a no-fly zone at lower altitudes, pretty sure no one expects a commercial airliner to get hit 10km in the air.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
July 17 2014 16:35 GMT
#48
Ukrainian rebels claim it was Ukrainian forces, they deny having such high-tech weaponry.

what a load of shit
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Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
July 17 2014 16:35 GMT
#49
http://zyalt.livejournal.com/1118689.html

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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 17 2014 16:36 GMT
#50
On July 18 2014 01:35 ahswtini wrote:
Ukrainian rebels claim it was Ukrainian forces, they deny having such high-tech weaponry.

what a load of shit

Please ignore those videos we released on social media earlier today, that was just a joke.
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
July 17 2014 16:36 GMT
#51
On July 18 2014 01:35 ahswtini wrote:
Ukrainian rebels claim it was Ukrainian forces, they deny having such high-tech weaponry.

what a load of shit


Not surprising both parties are blaming each other..
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zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
July 17 2014 16:37 GMT
#52
On July 18 2014 01:35 ahswtini wrote:
Ukrainian rebels claim it was Ukrainian forces, they deny having such high-tech weaponry.

what a load of shit

I'm sure you know exactly what happened because you were there...
Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
July 17 2014 16:39 GMT
#53
On July 18 2014 01:37 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2014 01:35 ahswtini wrote:
Ukrainian rebels claim it was Ukrainian forces, they deny having such high-tech weaponry.

what a load of shit

I'm sure you know exactly what happened because you were there...

Rebels confirmed that they shot down plane in same area. Still Malaysian airplane is only one shot down. Isn't that quite weird?
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-17 16:40:34
July 17 2014 16:39 GMT
#54
And WW3 confirmed.
Holy shite, wtf you do that for Ukraine, thats justs totally stupid.
Shooting down a plane thinking its Russian basically

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Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9236 Posts
July 17 2014 16:40 GMT
#55
Nice, fly over a warzone where several Ukranian planes have been shot down already, just to save some gas
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 17 2014 16:40 GMT
#56
On July 18 2014 01:37 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2014 01:35 ahswtini wrote:
Ukrainian rebels claim it was Ukrainian forces, they deny having such high-tech weaponry.

what a load of shit

I'm sure you know exactly what happened because you were there...

Well the rebels did sort of claim they shot down a cargo plane right before it was reported a commercial airliner was missing.

I mean, it is possible they did a two planes crashed at the same time. Maybe?
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Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
July 17 2014 16:40 GMT
#57
On July 18 2014 01:37 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2014 01:35 ahswtini wrote:
Ukrainian rebels claim it was Ukrainian forces, they deny having such high-tech weaponry.

what a load of shit

I'm sure you know exactly what happened because you were there...

Can you remind me which of the two parties has been shooting down planes and helicopters for the last few months?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 17 2014 16:42 GMT
#58
On July 18 2014 01:40 Nyxisto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2014 01:37 zeo wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:35 ahswtini wrote:
Ukrainian rebels claim it was Ukrainian forces, they deny having such high-tech weaponry.

what a load of shit

I'm sure you know exactly what happened because you were there...

Can you remind me which of the two parties has been shooting down planes and helicopters for the last few months?

Wait, your telling me the rebels don't have a functional airforce? Thats totally weird. I guess that explains why only one side has been shooting down flying stuff.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
July 17 2014 16:42 GMT
#59
On July 18 2014 01:40 Nyxisto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2014 01:37 zeo wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:35 ahswtini wrote:
Ukrainian rebels claim it was Ukrainian forces, they deny having such high-tech weaponry.

what a load of shit

I'm sure you know exactly what happened because you were there...

Can you remind me which of the two parties has been shooting down planes and helicopters for the last few months?

Rebels
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-17 16:43:50
July 17 2014 16:42 GMT
#60
On July 18 2014 01:39 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2014 01:37 zeo wrote:
On July 18 2014 01:35 ahswtini wrote:
Ukrainian rebels claim it was Ukrainian forces, they deny having such high-tech weaponry.

what a load of shit

I'm sure you know exactly what happened because you were there...

Rebels confirmed that they shot down plane in same area. Still Malaysian airplane is only one shot down. Isn't that quite weird?

They claim a lot of things and no one believes them. Wait until we have more information other than 'source: Kiev military'

edit: In the last week there has been at least 5 'full Russian invasions'
Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
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