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In order to maintain some kind of respectable thread quality and to show some respect for those who lost friends in this tragedy, we're forced to enact a hard line policy for this thread. Any posts holding an opinion on who is responsible or making an accusation that is not held by neutral media will be banned. Policy is in effect from page 27 onwards.

Specifically, citing a Ukrainian or Russian source for your claims is going to get you banned. Opinions/facts/accusations arising from neutral media sources (i.e. media whose country of origin is not Ukraine, Russia or one of its puppet states) will be permitted. This policy extends to all forms of media; if a youtube video or picture has not come through a neutral media source then don't post it or you'll be banned. If you wish to discuss this policy please use this website feedback thread.

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mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
July 17 2014 16:13 GMT
#21
On July 18 2014 01:11 Ayaz2810 wrote:
There's no way that a commercial airliner was shot down by mistake


wont be the first time...
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
July 17 2014 16:13 GMT
#22
So, was it a casual registered flight?
Meaning, were civilians aboard?
Because if it was, that means someone(probably nato along with the ukrainian nazis) want to push the situation.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-17 16:15:55
July 17 2014 16:15 GMT
#23
Maybe I don't have a good enough grasp on the situation, but isn't that kind of a bad place for commercial air liners to fly through?
Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
July 17 2014 16:16 GMT
#24
On July 18 2014 01:11 Ayaz2810 wrote:
There's no way that a commercial airliner was shot down by mistake. Please say that's not true. If so.... God damn. How fucking senseless. I don't get upset by much. I don't care about the world and its stupid conflicts really. But when 300 innocent people who are (perhaps) not even from the region where the fighting is happening get killed for no reason... I mean what the fuck -_-


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-17 16:16:36
July 17 2014 16:16 GMT
#25
On July 18 2014 01:13 Steveling wrote:
So, was it a casual registered flight?
Meaning, were civilians aboard?
Because if it was, that means someone(probably nato along with the ukrainian nazis) want to push the situation.

I'm just going to quote this so that its stupidity can be reflected upon at a later date. Tragedy calls for sympathy, not political fortune telling on a whim.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-17 16:18:00
July 17 2014 16:16 GMT
#26
From reports it was a commercial airline filled with normal people. And lets hold the nationalistic rhetoric and calling folks Nazi's to a minimum.

On July 18 2014 01:15 DannyJ wrote:
Maybe I don't have a good enough grasp on the situation, but isn't that kind of a bad place for commercial air liners to fly through?


I do not believe that airspace is "off limits" or a place where planes avoid. We will have to see reports of its flight path to see where it was before it went down. I am sure those reports are coming.
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Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-17 16:19:55
July 17 2014 16:17 GMT
#27
Putin can't be happy with this, because if it does get confirmed as being shot down (which it 90%+ likely was), then he's back on the radar. And such a massive shitstorm is going to brew up over this in that case. (questions of where the missile technology came from, etc are all going to arise.. And then... yeah).
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
July 17 2014 16:18 GMT
#28
Ofc there must be consequences. You simply don't shoot down civilian airliner and expect nothing will happen.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2349 Posts
July 17 2014 16:19 GMT
#29
On July 18 2014 01:11 Ayaz2810 wrote:
There's no way that a commercial airliner was shot down by mistake. Please say that's not true.


Maybe they mess it with AWACS or transport airplane, I dont know, I'm no expert :/
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 17 2014 16:20 GMT
#30
It looks like there the rebels were bragging about shooting down a plane on social media right before it was reported missing. I can't get the link on my work PC, but Kennigit was tweeting about it.

Woops.
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8254 Posts
July 17 2014 16:21 GMT
#31


RIP. Reddit thread for those that want to stay more up to date: http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/2ayjwz/malaysian_plane_crashes_over_the_ukraine/
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-17 16:29:05
July 17 2014 16:23 GMT
#32
On July 18 2014 01:20 Plansix wrote:
It looks like there the rebels were bragging about shooting down a plane on social media right before it was reported missing. I can't get the link on my work PC, but Kennigit was tweeting about it.

Woops.


This one?

+ Show Spoiler +
https://twitter.com/20committee/status/489801591059644416


EDIT: Spoilered so it's not as annoying to load.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
July 17 2014 16:25 GMT
#33
That's a fucking tragedy. Hopefully it wasn't because the russians gave weapons to crazy people that can't even identify a commercial airliner...
fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
July 17 2014 16:26 GMT
#34
FUCK, I was looking forward to a great weekend of TI4, but now I have to wait for the passenger list to see if there is anyone I know on board...
Warlock40
Profile Joined September 2011
601 Posts
July 17 2014 16:26 GMT
#35
Why are they even flying over a war zone? I know nothing about aviation procedures, but surely flights over any conflict are strictly avoided at all costs?
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
July 17 2014 16:27 GMT
#36
Flying civilian aircraft over a warzone where planes are being shot down every day is unbelievable. What the hell was Malaysian airlines thinking especially after what happened a few months ago?

And this falls under Ukraine thread... which was closed.
Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
July 17 2014 16:30 GMT
#37
On July 18 2014 01:26 Warlock40 wrote:
Why are they even flying over a war zone? I know nothing about aviation procedures, but surely flights over any conflict are strictly avoided at all costs?

Who would know that rebels have Buk missiles and will shoot down civilian airliner? Several big planes fly over that area all the time.

Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
July 17 2014 16:30 GMT
#38
Shot down huh. This ain't going to end up good.

"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-17 16:31:36
July 17 2014 16:30 GMT
#39
On July 18 2014 01:27 zeo wrote:
Flying civilian aircraft over a warzone where planes are being shot down every day is unbelievable. What the hell was Malaysian airlines thinking especially after what happened a few months ago?

And this falls under Ukraine thread... which was closed.

Plenty of airlines are flying over that area, not just Malaysian airlines. They were just unlucky enough to be the recipient of the missile.
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
July 17 2014 16:31 GMT
#40
On July 18 2014 01:25 HolydaKing wrote:
That's a fucking tragedy. Hopefully it wasn't because the russians gave weapons to crazy people that can't even identify a commercial airliner...

I don't think anyone still questions that at the moment. It's highly unlikely that those rebels just happened to come accross weapon sofisticated enough to down planes cruising 600 mph at 30,000 feet while strolling through one of their villages.

Deadly weaponry in the hands of people of subpar intelligence is always a bad thing.
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