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mnm
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States4493 Posts
October 24 2006 04:32 GMT
#61
don't get on pills.. those things could have serious side effects..

try joining some sort of club/group thing.. that helps..
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lil.sis
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
China4650 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-10-24 04:37:05
October 24 2006 04:36 GMT
#62
doctors will not prescribe things randomly

go see a doctor. clubs, activities, and girlfriends will not help you if your problem is physiological.
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Hydrolisko
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Vanuatu1659 Posts
October 24 2006 04:44 GMT
#63
You absolutely need to take medicine before something bad happens. I know medication sounds bad but you dont necessarily have to take it for life. But it is absolutely necessary especially for something like depression where really really bad things could result from neglegence. Another thing you could try is to travel, get a change of scenery. Maybe take a year off and just travel. Or goto another country and live there for a while.
Regulator
Profile Joined October 2006
60 Posts
October 24 2006 04:51 GMT
#64
On October 24 2006 06:00 0x64 wrote:
Too bad travis responded privatly becaus eI would had been interested as this really is pretty much my case too.

lllcodelll what helps me very much is to get the basic right. You need to have the basic routines ok before you can get better.
Do a list of your basic activities and set up some sort of ritual out of it. In the morning, get up, get a shower, shave, make your bed, clean the room.
Eat a good breakfast, have a fixed wake up time. If you go to sleep too late then wake up ealier until you start to feel sleepy at night.
When your alarm clock rings, jump right out of bed. Dont go first to your computer check teamliquid.

Basicly after doing all this you will start feeling better about yourself and you will think more clearly and you will feel like you have more time on your hands.

Then you should keep it up.
After one week start adding stuff to your program, like go run 30 min each day (always fixed time).
Get new clothes, add one night in the week you will go out in bar (try friday, its cool)

Also before starting this make a biiiiig cleanup of you room, dishes etc.

To make you feel even less bored, when you go shopping, make a rule you dont buy any ready made food and you dont buy the same food you have already bough on that week.

Some easy changes to make and you will get more color to your life and a healthy background!


I second all the above. Not to mention, a hobby really helps. Something involving music (guitar, singing, etc) or other addictive but controllable games has always helped me out. Stay busy.
lil.sis
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
China4650 Posts
October 24 2006 04:54 GMT
#65
hay guyz my knee hurts

i don't really want to take medicine for it though

should i try a hobby? maybe i will fix my knee by building model airplanes
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[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4650 Posts
October 24 2006 04:54 GMT
#66
Go outside and see the sun more...
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GunSlinger
Profile Joined June 2006
614 Posts
October 24 2006 04:55 GMT
#67
i'm a transformer bitchnizzle. i can transform.
PersonMan
Profile Joined March 2006
United States113 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-10-24 04:57:34
October 24 2006 04:57 GMT
#68
Everytime you step outside your doorway, scream out to the world:

"Dont Judge Me! LOVE ME!!!"
paaltje
Profile Joined October 2004
Netherlands359 Posts
October 24 2006 05:00 GMT
#69
keep lauching !
coolio
Profile Joined February 2006
Finland196 Posts
October 24 2006 05:16 GMT
#70
U should get a goal/dream in life, like u want to gain 30pounds of sheer muscle start bodybuildin itll also make u focus and concentrate on excersises, meals, all sort of things, and thus give ur life a meaning (at least for the point)...

And people should always just once in a while relax take it cool and think "how easy is it to live i don have to do anything no problems at alll" and enjoy the small things in life, like just seeing a friend going for a nice walk and seeing the nature, drinking cold fresh water, going to bed and all simple stuff caus thats what life consist of....

lol i cant write...
j0ehoe
Profile Joined September 2006
United States2705 Posts
October 24 2006 05:16 GMT
#71
On October 24 2006 13:14 WhatisProtoss wrote:
     [removed quote within quote]
I have friends who don't even know what it is. It is not suppressed. Depression is created. You choose whether you want to be depressed or not.


thats interesting. there seems to be a bunch of pyschology studies that contradict that. manic-depressive is by choice?

People choose to be depressed more so in the US. It's only natural. If you're sad and feeling down, the natural tendency is to be alone. Your bad mood prevents you from wanting to have fun with friends. If our lives were too busy to let in free time like this, then we wouldn't have time to dwell on our sadness and it would move on.

Crying alone or confining yourself to be depressed alone does not help your situation. I go through this all the time at school.

College is tough. We all have to work hard and study, despite how hard it is. There are some people who cannot take the pressure and decide to give up. I had two friends who dropped out in our freshman year of college. After the 2nd round of exams were given back, we were all shocked at our low marks. We just trudged back home, depressed and dishearted. But most of us, the next day, were motivated to correct our mistakes and not let the bad marks let us down. We worked even harder, because we did NOT want to be disappointed again. But two friends stopped going to class, just to stay in their rooms and mope around. All they did was complain about how hard the work was, and how unfair college was. They were required to withdraw by the school administration at the end of the year because they could not motivate themselves.

It's not about acknowledging the fact that you are depressed. Sure, we all get depressed. But just by saying: "I'm clinically depressed.... I can't do this anymore..." won't get you anywhere. You have to force yourself to move on despite how bad your situation is. It isn't suppressing or denying depression. It's fighting past it and not believing in it. If you believe that you can't succeed, then you will NOT succeed. That is my ideology.


brilliant. but your ideology doesnt do shit if you have a chemical imbalance. for normal, rational people, that holds pretty true. but the reality is, not everyone has it as easy as you do. if you were born into a poor family and had a mental disease, youd be singing a different tune.
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j0ehoe
Profile Joined September 2006
United States2705 Posts
October 24 2006 05:19 GMT
#72
On October 24 2006 13:18 intrigue wrote:
jesus christ, parenthesis kid - shut the fuck up, your name looks like a vagina and your posts fit it well. you have this stupid confidence in everything you say but it's painfully clear that you don't know what you're talking about. get out of here so nobody has to ignore your awful posts.


lol, read up on psychology dipshit. what im saying is right.
Only communists disconnect.
tehredbandit
Profile Joined June 2004
United States77 Posts
October 24 2006 05:36 GMT
#73
If you havent suffered from depression then i suggest you not give this man advice. I have chronic severe depression and take medicine for it. Without the medicine i am a wreck. I have tried commiting suicide once and failed. It's not as simple as "going out with your friends" as a lot of you make it out to be. I am suprised at the narrow mindness of most of these comments. If you wana talk about your depression man, pm me. Most of these people posting dont know a fucking thing of what they are talking about.
HeadBangaa
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6512 Posts
October 24 2006 05:50 GMT
#74
I get depressed sometimes. It makes it worse when you stay up late at night, i dunno why.

I strongly suggest forcing yourself to go to bed. A glass of red wine will do the trick

And don't disregard anti-deps so quickly, they've saved lives. And after you get through the rough spots of your life, you can ween yourself from them. My gf just came off a 4-year zoloft stint, and now she's fine
People who fail to distinguish Socratic Method from malicious trolling are sadly stupid and not worth a response.
mel_ee
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
2448 Posts
October 24 2006 05:55 GMT
#75
Pick up a hobbie that youre interested in. (not sc something new).

When i get down, analyze the situation.
Ask: Why am i feeling this way? What made me feel this way? What can i do to fix it? Just thinking about solutions really helps to project a goal.
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gLyo
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
United States2410 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-10-24 06:01:02
October 24 2006 05:55 GMT
#76
On October 24 2006 14:36 tehredbandit wrote:
If you havent suffered from depression then i suggest you not give this man advice. I have chronic severe depression and take medicine for it. Without the medicine i am a wreck. I have tried commiting suicide once and failed. It's not as simple as "going out with your friends" as a lot of you make it out to be. I am suprised at the narrow mindness of most of these comments. If you wana talk about your depression man, pm me. Most of these people posting dont know a fucking thing of what they are talking about.


QF Fucking T.

WhatIsProtoss, you are entirely wrong. There are many types of depression, and the type you are thinking of is just "The Blues." Everybody expirences this on a frequent basis and it usually dissapates pretty quick. Clinical Depression, on the other hand, is a serious thing, and it cannot be treated simply by pushing past it, since one of the core charactaristics is the simple inability to move past it, for whatever reason. It truly is an incredibly crushing feeling, and it's almost impossible to really do anything about it, not only because doing something about it is difficult, but you just lack the drive to do anything at all.

OP: if you are seriously depressed, and have been so for a period of longer than two weeks, you need seek professional help rather than TL.net's "help." Nobody on TL.net is qualified to help you, and even if they think they can, they probably can't.

A prescription is not as bad as many of you seem to think. I've been on antidepressants twice (Prozac and Zoloft), and for extended periods. I did not feel numb, and I did not become dependant on them. After a good deal of time, I came off of them and felt significantly better. The only noticable side effect was weight gain with the Zoloft, and it came off very easy once after I got off.
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intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-10-24 06:30:18
October 24 2006 06:19 GMT
#77
On October 24 2006 14:19 ))(())(( wrote:
[removed quote within quote]
lol, read up on psychology dipshit. what im saying is right.


no, you're wrong. you have no right to be confident in anything you say if you spew stuff like this:

non-existant? wow, you're an idiot. you try living up to insane expectations from your parents, being forced to join the military and living in fear of the north coming down to kick the shit out of you your whole life, then tell me that theres no depression there, ok? even if none of those existed, you can still become depressed. it happens to many people because of a chemical imbalance.


you are obviously clueless, so keep on talking about things you don't know about please! i don't know or care you who are but from what you write i am certain that i know more than you about probably everything. yes, the op needs to see a psychiatrist, but good job! you've just stated the obvious three times in one thread. and shit from your mouth in every other post i've seen since you joined tlnet and it's fucking awful.

assholes like you who have been here a month shouldn't have three hundred posts, and if they do they better be good ones. stop spamming and posting just to give your worthless support of other people's posts or jumping on the 'lol i hate whatisprotoss' bandwagon, it won't make you popular. i hope you get banned soon.
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WhatisProtoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Korea (South)2325 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-10-24 06:29:51
October 24 2006 06:26 GMT
#78
On October 24 2006 14:16 ))(())(( wrote:
[removed quote within quote]

thats interesting. there seems to be a bunch of pyschology studies that contradict that. manic-depressive is by choice?

brilliant. but your ideology doesnt do shit if you have a chemical imbalance. for normal, rational people, that holds pretty true. but the reality is, not everyone has it as easy as you do. if you were born into a poor family and had a mental disease, youd be singing a different tune.

Sure, I agree to that much...

But you know, psychology is not the biological study of the brain, it is the study of the brain through hypothesis of behavior (like phenotypes vs. genotypes). It is the attempt to explain why a human acts a certain way.

Unlike chemistry and biology, psychology is mostly based on observational theory. The best answers are from controlled experiments. If you actually know anything about psychology (which I don't think you do.... since you don't sound like you've taken a college-level psych class), you would know that "new" diseases are being created. And some psychologists believe that the pharmaceutical industry almost "creates" new diseases to match their products. One easy example is: social anxiety disorder.

Didn't you know that most anti-depressant drugs were placebos? Once a patient loses faith in them, the drug does not work. Just google "antidepressant + placebo" and you will see the massive debate over the placebo effect of anti-depressants. It's a pharmaceutical industry thing, for the most part.

I do agree that there are some people who cannot get over depression as easily as other. I do accept the notion that people, if left alone, will be chronically depressed. I also acknowledge that there is lots of doubt in the area of clinical depression itself.

I accept the fact that studies have shown lower levels of neurotransmitters for clinically depressed people. However, I also know that healthy people are known to have shown lower levels of seretonin when depressed for a short period of time. Yes, the mental change in the body does reflect in the number of neurotransmitters which are functioning. But that statistic does not change between the "clinically depressed" and the temporarily depressed people. Clinically depressed ones just might have the "wrong attitude", but that's just a random thought.

The ONE thing I absolutely believe in is that brain dieases could very well cause depression. That is the one thing that is absolute and clinically correct. Parkinsons', M.S.... But that is a side-effect of the brain damage. But that shouldn't be called "clinical depression." It should be called what it really is: brain damage, or specifically "Parkinsons'", "MS", or some other neuro-related disease.

I just see it as:
Physical Disorder vs. Social Disorder
_______________
I know I'm talking too much on this thread..... but it's a matter that is very close to me. Coming from Korea, I had never considered depression and laughed at friends who would be depressed. But after taking friends to the mental clinic and learning about this, I feel somewhat strongly on this matter.
j0ehoe
Profile Joined September 2006
United States2705 Posts
October 24 2006 06:27 GMT
#79
On October 24 2006 15:19 intrigue wrote:
[removed quote within quote]

no, you're wrong. you have no right to be confident in anything you say if you spew stuff like this:

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non-existant? wow, you're an idiot. you try living up to insane expectations from your parents, being forced to join the military and living in fear of the north coming down to kick the shit out of you your whole life, then tell me that theres no depression there, ok? even if none of those existed, you can still become depressed. it happens to many people because of a chemical imbalance.


you are obviously clueless, so keep on talking about things you don't know about please! i don't know or care you who are but from what you write i am certain that i know more than you about probably everything. you've either stated the obvious or shit from your mouth in every post i've seen since you joined so far and it's fucking awful.

assholes like you who have been here a month shouldn't have three hundred posts, and if they do they better be good ones. stop spamming and posting just to give your worthless support of other people's posts or jumping on the 'lol i hate whatisprotoss' bandwagon, it won't make you popular. i hope you get banned soon.


and what out of you quoted isnt true? korea is known to have high academic standards. they all have to join the military and they have a fucking dmz smack across the middle of it, with a now nuclear-capable psychopath above them. thats not living in fear? off my nuts. nothing is this post has been anything but truths. youve really proven you know more then me buddy. i didnt jump on any bandwagon, i simply pointed out that the kid is an idiot and has no clue what hes talking about. maybe you feel the need to be popular in the e-community, but to me, its just passing time during the work day. sorry i took the limelight off you, ok? you can go back to being mr. popular now.
Only communists disconnect.
Yogurt
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States4258 Posts
October 24 2006 06:28 GMT
#80
liftin weights makes me feel fuckin awesome

helps if you have someone to train with
ok dont not so good something is something ok ok ok gogogo
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