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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 06 2014 22:17 GMT
#441
On August 07 2014 07:16 ahswtini wrote:
Wondering what some fo the big streaming studios are gonna say about this


I wonder too. It seems like this could cause issues with companies that use legal purchased third-party music. How does the bot tell the difference?
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-06 22:27:06
August 06 2014 22:23 GMT
#442
On August 07 2014 07:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 07:16 ahswtini wrote:
Wondering what some fo the big streaming studios are gonna say about this


I wonder too. It seems like this could cause issues with companies that use legal purchased third-party music. How does the bot tell the difference?


If you have rights to use something you are good to go. Day9 for example shouldn't have any problems because he has the right to use what he is playing.



But its another thing whether the system still works correctly. Dreamhack Vods are muted even though they've paid for the rights. But then again, just prove it and you should be good to go.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 06 2014 22:27 GMT
#443
On August 07 2014 07:23 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 07:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 07 2014 07:16 ahswtini wrote:
Wondering what some fo the big streaming studios are gonna say about this


I wonder too. It seems like this could cause issues with companies that use legal purchased third-party music. How does the bot tell the difference?


Heres an example. If you have rights to use something you are good to go. Day9 for example shouldn't have any problems because he has the right to use what he is playing.

https://twitter.com/Monstercat/status/497141199422377986

But its another thing whether the system still works correctly. For example, Dreamhack Vods are muted even though they've paid for the rights. But then again, just prove it and you should be good to go.


I guess it's nice that there are ways to get around it, but that still seems like a huge pain in the ass for most companies to deal with, and hurts them in the meantime until they can prove they have the rights.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-06 22:31:57
August 06 2014 22:28 GMT
#444
Wow this is worse than I thought. Youtube-like copyrights and outright removal of most VODs?

This affects A LOT of leagues that keep their VODs there as well as some streamers that require you to be a subscriber to watch their VODs.

A lot of SC2 VODs will forever be deleted. Same thing with every other eSports games, they will lose soooo many games. And sometimes I watch old MTG VODs from the main streams.

This is absolutely insane. Twitch gets destroyed within a day basically.

On August 07 2014 07:01 Roggay wrote:
The big problem is that those sound recognition programs have a TON of false-positives. This is going to be hell, especially because you can't (afaik) export a flagged piece of vod to youtube, thus losing all the content.
edit: well I mean, you can still record it locally, but twitch will be pretty useless for that function now.


On Youtube, a lot of pretty big channels that I follow have had to go through hell and back because of false flags, lost tons of money and even risked getting their channels removed unfairly.

On August 07 2014 06:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 06:32 Grettin wrote:
Important: Changes To Audio In VODS. No more copyrighted music.
http://blog.twitch.tv/2014/08/3136/

We’ve partnered with Audible Magic, which works closely with the recorded music industry, to scan past and future VODs for music owned or controlled by clients of Audible Magic. This includes in-game and ambient music. When music in the Audible Magic database is detected (“Flagged Content”), the affected portion of the VOD will be muted and volume controls for that VOD will be turned off. Additionally, past broadcasts and highlights with Flagged Content are exportable but will remain muted


So in-game music huh? This is going to be fun.


So it's gonna be the same bullshit system youtube uses... I fucking hate copyright laws and companies that enforce them like fucking nazis.


I think we all agree they can go eat a dick. When someone copyrights the sound of a bomb exploding in the background of a game that the viewer can barely hear, you know there's some fucking problem.
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Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
August 06 2014 22:30 GMT
#445
On August 07 2014 06:55 iHirO wrote:
Is it possible to split the audio stream to record the voices/game sounds and the music separately.

Then the archived streams could automatically replace the music with some non copyrighted light jazz while keeping everything else unchanged.


From what I've seen/researched so far, none of the commonly used programs can do it as audio splitting is a pretty processor intensive process in and of itself. I know professional equipment can do it, but no one's gonna have that equipment lying around.

The simplest answer will be to record audio locally in a separate program (like Audacity, which I think can capture individual audio sources) and if it gets flagged, download the VOD from Twitch and edit it in a program like Adobe Premiere Pro.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-06 22:36:50
August 06 2014 22:30 GMT
#446
On August 07 2014 07:27 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 07:23 Grettin wrote:
On August 07 2014 07:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 07 2014 07:16 ahswtini wrote:
Wondering what some fo the big streaming studios are gonna say about this


I wonder too. It seems like this could cause issues with companies that use legal purchased third-party music. How does the bot tell the difference?


Heres an example. If you have rights to use something you are good to go. Day9 for example shouldn't have any problems because he has the right to use what he is playing.

https://twitter.com/Monstercat/status/497141199422377986

But its another thing whether the system still works correctly. For example, Dreamhack Vods are muted even though they've paid for the rights. But then again, just prove it and you should be good to go.


I guess it's nice that there are ways to get around it, but that still seems like a huge pain in the ass for most companies to deal with, and hurts them in the meantime until they can prove they have the rights.


Oh absolutely, no doubt about that.

What baffles me most is the "in-game music" part. Popular streamer DansGaming's Fallout 3 vod was completely muted because of the in-game music/radio. Same with GTA games and lots of older games (according to speedgaming community)

Also, rofl.

[image loading]
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
SC2Towelie
Profile Joined July 2014
United States561 Posts
August 06 2014 22:35 GMT
#447
August 6th, 2014 ~ RIP Twitch.tv
Don't forget to bring a towel! (Towelie.635)
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
August 06 2014 22:37 GMT
#448
See you on azubu! This is crazy, these copyright laws are so arcane. If anyone would want to listen a certain song, they wouldn't go to a video game stream praying that the person will play that song, let alone all the stupid video game sounds that would be blaring over it.
"Right on" - Morrow
Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
August 06 2014 22:39 GMT
#449
On August 07 2014 07:30 Grettin wrote:

Also, rofl.

[image loading]


That just says it all.

GG. I'm so pissed off words are beyond me. I mean I expected this when it was announced they were getting bought out but I never expected lightning speed self-destruction =(.

End of an era.
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Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-06 22:41:13
August 06 2014 22:40 GMT
#450
2 extremely fun facts:
- Twitch's own vods are getting flagged, like the vod of Twitch weekly.
- pressing spacebar twice over a muted section of vod unmutes the vod

Hilarious.
Edit: got sniped about twitch weekly.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
August 06 2014 22:41 GMT
#451
On August 07 2014 07:40 Roggay wrote:
2 extremely fun facts:
- Twitch's own vods are getting flagged, like the vod of Twitch weekly.
- pressing spacebar twice over a muted section of vod unmutes the vod

Hilarious.
Edit: got sniped about twitch weekly.


That shit. Is hilarious. ROFL
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
SC2Towelie
Profile Joined July 2014
United States561 Posts
August 06 2014 22:45 GMT
#452
On August 07 2014 07:30 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 07:27 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 07 2014 07:23 Grettin wrote:
On August 07 2014 07:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 07 2014 07:16 ahswtini wrote:
Wondering what some fo the big streaming studios are gonna say about this


I wonder too. It seems like this could cause issues with companies that use legal purchased third-party music. How does the bot tell the difference?


Heres an example. If you have rights to use something you are good to go. Day9 for example shouldn't have any problems because he has the right to use what he is playing.

https://twitter.com/Monstercat/status/497141199422377986

But its another thing whether the system still works correctly. For example, Dreamhack Vods are muted even though they've paid for the rights. But then again, just prove it and you should be good to go.


I guess it's nice that there are ways to get around it, but that still seems like a huge pain in the ass for most companies to deal with, and hurts them in the meantime until they can prove they have the rights.


Oh absolutely, no doubt about that.

What baffles me most is the "in-game music" part. Popular streamer DansGaming's Fallout 3 vod was completely muted because of the in-game music/radio. Same with GTA games and lots of older games (according to speedgaming community)

Also, rofl.

[image loading]


Wow, this is just too damn funny. Their OWN VODS are getting muted!!!
Don't forget to bring a towel! (Towelie.635)
TumNarDok
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany854 Posts
August 06 2014 22:47 GMT
#453
Here we goo
History being made, but why do they always kill the fun stuff?


alienQT
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland55 Posts
August 06 2014 22:48 GMT
#454
This is unbelievable, i never understood all the fluff about copyright music, its free advertising and all they do is killing it for us..
I and friends buyed a lot of stuff we listned too on twitch / youtube and many people do it too :/
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 06 2014 22:53 GMT
#455
On August 07 2014 07:48 alienQT wrote:
This is unbelievable, i never understood all the fluff about copyright music, its free advertising and all they do is killing it for us..
I and friends buyed a lot of stuff we listned too on twitch / youtube and many people do it too :/

And music companies that feel that way won't have their stuff flagged. Those who don't will. Its not going to be that big of a deal once they get the kinks worked out.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
August 06 2014 22:57 GMT
#456
It definitely sounds weird that a site dedicated to streaming people playing video games would use software that mutes you for playing the music in those very games.
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
August 06 2014 22:57 GMT
#457
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SC2Towelie
Profile Joined July 2014
United States561 Posts
August 06 2014 22:57 GMT
#458
On August 07 2014 07:47 TumNarDok wrote:
Here we goo
History being made, but why do they always kill the fun stuff?

https://twitter.com/hitboxliveHelp/status/497150137933000705


Yup, time to switch to hitbox!
Don't forget to bring a towel! (Towelie.635)
Tribute
Profile Joined September 2010
United States146 Posts
August 06 2014 23:07 GMT
#459
On July 25 2014 07:14 Tribute wrote:
I'm going to be interested in seeing how Google will approach this. Given how many music violations occur on youtube, and how many streamers play music while they stream, I'm a little apprehensive.


And now I look like a fucking PROPHET. Come get your lottery ticket numbers while they're hot!
Yergidy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2107 Posts
August 06 2014 23:10 GMT
#460
LOL All if ixmike's VODs are completely muted
http://www.twitch.tv/liquidixmike88/profile/past_broadcasts
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