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Cluster__
Profile Joined September 2013
United States328 Posts
August 27 2014 02:05 GMT
#781
On August 27 2014 10:24 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 10:21 aksfjh wrote:
On August 27 2014 10:20 Orcasgt24 wrote:
So Amazon paid a billion dollars for a site that doesn't work :p

Some group named Lizard Squad is ddosing them and they are down

Yup. Welcome to the internet...

You would think a billion dollar internet based company would know how to protect themselves from that kind of common attack.


Even Facebook gets DDoS'd sometimes...
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hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 27 2014 02:27 GMT
#782
On August 27 2014 11:00 Orcasgt24 wrote:
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On August 27 2014 10:29 mahrgell wrote:
On August 27 2014 10:24 Orcasgt24 wrote:
On August 27 2014 10:21 aksfjh wrote:
On August 27 2014 10:20 Orcasgt24 wrote:
So Amazon paid a billion dollars for a site that doesn't work :p

Some group named Lizard Squad is ddosing them and they are down

Yup. Welcome to the internet...

You would think a billion dollar internet based company would know how to protect themselves from that kind of common attack.


That's why even government, intelligence and other sites are never taken down by ddos efforts... Because it is so simple to defend against that shit... yeah... sure!

It's very possible to mitigate the damage of them using security providers like Black Lotus or Prolexic.

As a side note. It is kind of weird that these huge companies aren't trying to invent ways to make sure they are immune to ddosing. Or maybe they are and have been unsuccessful.


I am sure that they are trying to protect against it, but it requires a great deal of infrastructure to do so. Prolexic is owned by Akamai, so they have the capacity to dedicate a lot of servers and bandwidth to mitigate ddos.

I am no expert, but to completely solve the problem we might need to switch over to different network protocols, which is not a realistic option at the moment.
saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
August 27 2014 04:26 GMT
#783
wtf is happening, twitch seems to be down
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
August 27 2014 04:34 GMT
#784
lol is DDoS-ing get easier or what? These Lizard Squad ass holes have been fucking DDoS-ing everything in the passed week.
http://www.twitch.tv/rebufferingg
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-27 04:48:49
August 27 2014 04:41 GMT
#785
On August 27 2014 13:34 rebuffering wrote:
lol is DDoS-ing get easier or what? These Lizard Squad ass holes have been fucking DDoS-ing everything in the passed week.

Anyone can DDOS, all you need to do is buy a botnet and figure out what to shoot. It's quite simple if you are willing to front the money and the risk of getting FBIed

EDIT: Heck you can DDOS any small site, just google LOIC and point it at something. It was used for the 4chan raids

EDIT2: + Show Spoiler +
I am not by any means encouraging you to preform illegal actions. This post is only for informational, satirical, and anecdotal purposes. Only a fool would take this information at face value and act on it.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
August 27 2014 06:09 GMT
#786
On August 26 2014 18:48 dabom88 wrote:
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On August 26 2014 18:43 WindWolf wrote:
On August 26 2014 17:55 dabom88 wrote:
On August 26 2014 17:50 WindWolf wrote:
On August 26 2014 17:19 dabom88 wrote:
On August 26 2014 17:00 nimdil wrote:
Crap. Amazon is terrible corporation. I hate this news, really hoped for Google.

I don't know much about Amazon's terrible practices (they probably have some, I just haven't done the research)

Amazon buying Comixology and then pissing of their iOS customers is one relatively recent example of something that they could have done better

I don't know what Comixology is, and I despise Apple, so that's why I probably haven't heard of that story.

*reads up on the issue*

Now that I have, I don't understand the problem. Amazon doesn't want to pay Apple, so they workaround it. Is buying comics from the Safari browser really that hard? The move gives more money to the content creator instead of the middle Man, and that Middle Man is Apple, so it looks doubly good from where I stand.

If anything, blame Apple for the unbelievably unreasonable 30% commission it takes for in-app purchases.

1) Comixology had IAP for iOS for quite a long time before all of that happened plus
2) The change happened just over a night. No warning no nothing, which does not make it very surprising that iOS customers are pissed of (I'm on Android, but I can certainly understand iOS users' frustration)


2. Okay, you got me there. Nobody likes it when sudden changes are made overnight without warning. The Twitch rolling out their new VOD program with Audible Magic is a prime example.

Which is why I'm not all to happy about Amazon being the buyer. At first after the buying of Comixology, it looked like everything was going to carry on as things used to be and BAAM they just remove IAP for iOS like a thunder from a clear blue sky. Who knows what might happen to Twitch now.
EZ4ENCE
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
August 27 2014 06:32 GMT
#787
At least they relented after they got pics to jerk off over and I could finish watching WCS.

+ Show Spoiler +
fuck uthermal how did you lose that last set
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42383 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-27 15:04:26
August 27 2014 15:02 GMT
#788
sigh, nvm
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-27 17:13:02
August 27 2014 17:09 GMT
#789
ah I see, makes sense. Twitch stopped working and I wasn't sure if something was wrong on my end since it was fine earlier in the day lol. As to this news, not sure if I like it or not. Guess wait and see what Amazon brings to the table.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-27 17:53:03
August 27 2014 17:51 GMT
#790
On August 27 2014 13:34 rebuffering wrote:
lol is DDoS-ing get easier or what? These Lizard Squad ass holes have been fucking DDoS-ing everything in the passed week.

It probably is, but at the same time I've seen normal service/internet/other problem being blamed on ddos attacks a lot lately. It just seems like the go to excuse whenever something doesn't work and it's often not the case. But it does strengthen that perception.

I've seen a stream go down with the streamer saying essentially "it's just my internet" and then 10 minutes later it's a truth in chat that the stream got shut down by ddos.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-30 15:24:21
August 30 2014 15:24 GMT
#791
On August 26 2014 05:36 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
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On August 26 2014 05:22 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Can't wait for them to remove the Android app and make it an Amazon ecosystem exclusive.

The problem with exclusivity is that it can sometimes kill a product.

As Twitch proved when Own3d shut down, not necessairly
EZ4ENCE
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
August 30 2014 17:08 GMT
#792
On August 28 2014 02:51 nam nam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 13:34 rebuffering wrote:
lol is DDoS-ing get easier or what? These Lizard Squad ass holes have been fucking DDoS-ing everything in the passed week.

It probably is, but at the same time I've seen normal service/internet/other problem being blamed on ddos attacks a lot lately. It just seems like the go to excuse whenever something doesn't work and it's often not the case. But it does strengthen that perception.

I've seen a stream go down with the streamer saying essentially "it's just my internet" and then 10 minutes later it's a truth in chat that the stream got shut down by ddos.

"DDoS" is actually somewhat rare, while standard "DoS" is more common. Simply flooding a connection from a small amount of computers (sometimes just with one computer) is incredibly easy to do and will knock down standard home equipment and non-maintained enterprise equipment. The kind of DDoS likely being deployed by Lizard Squad is relatively rare because it isn't free, even for the highly skilled.

And of course, everybody and their mom wants to seem like they know something so they jump on the DDoS bandwagon.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
August 30 2014 17:21 GMT
#793
On August 31 2014 02:08 aksfjh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 02:51 nam nam wrote:
On August 27 2014 13:34 rebuffering wrote:
lol is DDoS-ing get easier or what? These Lizard Squad ass holes have been fucking DDoS-ing everything in the passed week.

It probably is, but at the same time I've seen normal service/internet/other problem being blamed on ddos attacks a lot lately. It just seems like the go to excuse whenever something doesn't work and it's often not the case. But it does strengthen that perception.

I've seen a stream go down with the streamer saying essentially "it's just my internet" and then 10 minutes later it's a truth in chat that the stream got shut down by ddos.

"DDoS" is actually somewhat rare, while standard "DoS" is more common. Simply flooding a connection from a small amount of computers (sometimes just with one computer) is incredibly easy to do and will knock down standard home equipment and non-maintained enterprise equipment. The kind of DDoS likely being deployed by Lizard Squad is relatively rare because it isn't free, even for the highly skilled.

And of course, everybody and their mom wants to seem like they know something so they jump on the DDoS bandwagon.

It may not be free, but it is still really easy to pull off (DDoS that is). But yes you need to rent a botnet.
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
August 30 2014 17:51 GMT
#794
On August 31 2014 02:21 Roggay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2014 02:08 aksfjh wrote:
On August 28 2014 02:51 nam nam wrote:
On August 27 2014 13:34 rebuffering wrote:
lol is DDoS-ing get easier or what? These Lizard Squad ass holes have been fucking DDoS-ing everything in the passed week.

It probably is, but at the same time I've seen normal service/internet/other problem being blamed on ddos attacks a lot lately. It just seems like the go to excuse whenever something doesn't work and it's often not the case. But it does strengthen that perception.

I've seen a stream go down with the streamer saying essentially "it's just my internet" and then 10 minutes later it's a truth in chat that the stream got shut down by ddos.

"DDoS" is actually somewhat rare, while standard "DoS" is more common. Simply flooding a connection from a small amount of computers (sometimes just with one computer) is incredibly easy to do and will knock down standard home equipment and non-maintained enterprise equipment. The kind of DDoS likely being deployed by Lizard Squad is relatively rare because it isn't free, even for the highly skilled.

And of course, everybody and their mom wants to seem like they know something so they jump on the DDoS bandwagon.

It may not be free, but it is still really easy to pull off (DDoS that is). But yes you need to rent a botnet.

Never said it wasn't easy. It's really hard to create the botnet and it's a waste to use a botnet like that, which makes it expensive, but not hard.
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
August 31 2014 00:42 GMT
#795
On August 31 2014 02:08 aksfjh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 02:51 nam nam wrote:
On August 27 2014 13:34 rebuffering wrote:
lol is DDoS-ing get easier or what? These Lizard Squad ass holes have been fucking DDoS-ing everything in the passed week.

It probably is, but at the same time I've seen normal service/internet/other problem being blamed on ddos attacks a lot lately. It just seems like the go to excuse whenever something doesn't work and it's often not the case. But it does strengthen that perception.

I've seen a stream go down with the streamer saying essentially "it's just my internet" and then 10 minutes later it's a truth in chat that the stream got shut down by ddos.

"DDoS" is actually somewhat rare, while standard "DoS" is more common.


For a while I'd forgotten about what the first "D" in "DDoS" stood for, and wondered why it was even there. Then I read this line and magically remembered that it means "distributed" (probably because I haven't seen people distinguish between them for a long time...)
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Cluster__
Profile Joined September 2013
United States328 Posts
September 09 2014 16:53 GMT
#796
Big post on tech crunch titled "Whats next for twitch"
http://techcrunch.com/video/whats-next-for-twitch-from-emmett-shear-and-kevin-lin-2/518405957/
Liquid`Snute, AcerScarlett, ROOTCatZ, MC, Maru, Soulkey, Losira
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