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quirinus
Croatia2489 Posts
twitch has a shitty interface, google will probably make it even more shitty. no more music. now we'll have to either pick our music to be free or not play it. google plus on TwitchTube = no thx probably shittier support. ads, ads everywhere. I don't mind them that much, unless they overdo them. gg no re | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On July 25 2014 07:35 Kurr wrote: It doesn't say it was the first. I mean, it's one of the firsts (justin.tv) along with services like ustream. I don't think many people count old obscure streams like I remember watching CS 1.6 tournaments in ~2003 through clients and that WC3 stream program that was horrendous to get to work.. Modern streaming is pretty recent. Unless they actually refer to Justin.tv, it's simply wrong. Twitch.tv was 4 years after the likes of Ustream, Justin.tv, livestream etc and even more than that in regards to non-international services. There were a lot of streams for various things before 2007 and I wouldn't count them either. After all, those weren't exactly services... | ||
[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
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TwiStEr
Germany115 Posts
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On July 25 2014 09:29 TwiStEr wrote: It is very likely that Germans will completely blocked in the future as we are from youtube streams already. This could suck really really hard .. The German live-streaming scene isn't that small, so I doubt they will be able to do that this easily. | ||
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Kurr
Canada2338 Posts
On July 25 2014 09:41 Lucumo wrote: The German live-streaming scene isn't that small, so I doubt they will be able to do that this easily. They can and it's a legitimate concern for Germans I feel. On Youtube there are tons of German youtubers but that doesn't stop the issues. Basically if you're German and want to use youtube you need to use a proxy. If they decide to bring the same type of copyright to Twitch (which would suck hard), they will probably be in the same situation. One thing I'm wondering, some people do both twitch + youtube videos and get income from both. I'm a little worried how this will affect those people, if at all. They could easily choose to lower the pay since "it will be easier with integration!" | ||
Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
On July 25 2014 09:18 [SXG]Phantom wrote: Its amazing how people can predict the future, they are so sure there will be google+ integration even when google now has lessed focus on google plus, and they are sure that you won't be able to listen to music, the interfacw will suck, and the support, for some reason will suck. Also, there are already adds in twitch, google buying it wont make it worse. If you ever see a newer android phone let me know if you still feel like google is moving away from google+ Have you ever uploaded a video to youtube with music in it? It detects the song and forces ads into your video if it detects certain songs. Unless google decides to totaly separate its brand from Twitch and just operate from the background, shareholders and executives will expect Twitch to be handled the same as other google services. Time to contact lawyers and figure out loopholes like the people who post full albums on youtube have. Maybe the new era of google+twitch streams will be active commentary on the music rather than the gameplay to keep the music usage under fair use laws. Maybe Google will just buy spotify and you can link your twitch account and play approved google-proof music. It's going to be a lot worse than people here seem to think as for the ads, as long as adblock still works, who cares? | ||
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wongfeihung
United States763 Posts
On July 25 2014 09:11 quirinus wrote: good servers, better vod support. twitch has a shitty interface, google will probably make it even more shitty. no more music. now we'll have to either pick our music to be free or not play it. google plus on TwitchTube = no thx probably shittier support. ads, ads everywhere. I don't mind them that much, unless they overdo them. gg no re Twitch has a shitty interface? What is it about the interface that repulses you so? | ||
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TheRealArtemis
687 Posts
Best scenario. Better servers Better support Better chat system for partnered Channels. (seperate chat channels for subs non subs if there is sub mode on.) Worst case. They force whatever they like on twitch (pay wall, more adds, copy right laws etc.) because twitch is the best thing out there and the Gaming community have matured enough so people wont leave unless the streamers does. | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On July 25 2014 09:53 Kurr wrote: They can and it's a legitimate concern for Germans I feel. On Youtube there are tons of German youtubers but that doesn't stop the issues. Basically if you're German and want to use youtube you need to use a proxy. If they decide to bring the same type of copyright to Twitch (which would suck hard), they will probably be in the same situation. One thing I'm wondering, some people do both twitch + youtube videos and get income from both. I'm a little worried how this will affect those people, if at all. They could easily choose to lower the pay since "it will be easier with integration!" Of course they can. But will they, that's the question I proposed. If there would be a large enough public outcry, they can't go through with this. Pretty much everyone(people) hates the GEMA, so an action like this could serve as a catalyst. | ||
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Kurr
Canada2338 Posts
On July 25 2014 10:38 Lucumo wrote: Of course they can. But will they, that's the question I proposed. If there would be a large enough public outcry, they can't go through with this. Pretty much everyone(people) hates the GEMA, so an action like this could serve as a catalyst. I disagree. They don't care about massive criticism. See : Youtube copyright fiasco on yearly basis at minimum (and ongoing since December 2013 a ton of videos getting falsely flagged and people losing tons of money over false claims; some accounts often get closed because of false claims too with no way to fight back unless you want to spend years + lawyer fees; content getting flagged for background NOISES and not even music sometimes.... the list goes on), current state of youtube + GEMA, youtube comments, Google+ integration. If Google wants to do something they do, no matter what people say. I stopped using Chrome and google completely except gmail tbh since I really hate their direction. And only reason I still use gmail is because I have too many contacts through it. | ||
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[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
On July 25 2014 10:11 Fecalfeast wrote: If you ever see a newer android phone let me know if you still feel like google is moving away from google+ Have you ever uploaded a video to youtube with music in it? It detects the song and forces ads into your video if it detects certain songs. Unless google decides to totaly separate its brand from Twitch and just operate from the background, shareholders and executives will expect Twitch to be handled the same as other google services. Time to contact lawyers and figure out loopholes like the people who post full albums on youtube have. Maybe the new era of google+twitch streams will be active commentary on the music rather than the gameplay to keep the music usage under fair use laws. Maybe Google will just buy spotify and you can link your twitch account and play approved google-proof music. It's going to be a lot worse than people here seem to think as for the ads, as long as adblock still works, who cares? Google doesn't need to buy spotify, it already has a music streaming service, and soon it will have a youtube offline/background sound streaming service too, but i don't think they will force you to do it. I don't understand what you are trying to say with the "newer android phone" it has the google plus app yeah, but i will give you 3 reasons of why i say google is departing from google plus. 1.-They used to use a google+ sing in button, that is being replaced with a Google button. 2.-You can now make google voice calls without a google+account 3.-The creator and "leader" of Google+, Vic Gundotra left google like 2-3 months ago, before the changes i listed before were made, and there have been more. I'm sure with google, the experience will get way better. Better servers, better support, more awareness too. The changes to the interface are subjective, some will like them and some won't, but twitch eventually would have changed their interface too and the same would have happened. Obviously this could be wrong but i think is highly likely to happen. A lot of things could go wrong too, like blocking streams and that kind of stuff, but i think its highly unlikely, and some people are jumping very fast to conclusions, and state things like facts as if they could predict the future. We will see how things develop. Also lets remember that a lot of videos on youtube are removed because the companies whose content is being showcased report them to youtube, but with twitch and e-sports specially, I doubt Blizzard, Valve and others would report the streams. The only thing that could go wrong is with music, and even then there are dozens of solutions, so lets wait and see. | ||
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On July 25 2014 10:46 Kurr wrote: I disagree. They don't care about massive criticism. See : Youtube copyright fiasco on yearly basis at minimum (and ongoing since December 2013 a ton of videos getting falsely flagged and people losing tons of money over false claims; some accounts often get closed because of false claims too with no way to fight back unless you want to spend years + lawyer fees; content getting flagged for background NOISES and not even music sometimes.... the list goes on), current state of youtube + GEMA, youtube comments, Google+ integration. If Google wants to do something they do, no matter what people say. I stopped using Chrome and google completely except gmail tbh since I really hate their direction. And only reason I still use gmail is because I have too many contacts through it. I was talking about GEMA, not Google. On July 25 2014 11:06 writer22816 wrote: I'm fine as long as the twitch emoticons stay Would love for them to go away, but I doubt it. They really need to include a function to block those. | ||
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LoneYoShi
France1348 Posts
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
On July 25 2014 20:20 LoneYoShi wrote: I just hope this means the twitch app will be compatible with ChromeCast soon. Can't wait to watch some nice quality sc2 on my TV ! You can just use Lakitu, the app itself is better than the shitty twitch app and it works with Chromecast | ||
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LoneYoShi
France1348 Posts
On July 25 2014 20:45 clusen wrote: You can just use Lakitu, the app itself is better than the shitty twitch app and it works with Chromecast Oh yeah ? Thanks, I'm gonna try it out this weekend with the Nation Wars ! :D | ||
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
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Grettin
42416 Posts
On July 26 2014 04:34 WindWolf wrote: I'm hoping that Twitch servers becomes more stable. It's not until very recently that Twitch started reaching good stability for me personally Just recently they added more capacity for the euro servers. Stockholm got 200% increase and Frankfurt 2450% increase for example. http://blog.twitch.tv/2014/07/service-update-europe-pops-upgraded/ | ||
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