EPTElection Maps UK (@ElectionMapsUK)
Westminster Voting Intention:
If Election BEFORE 31st Oct:
CON: 37%
LAB: 30%
BXP: 9%
If Election AFTER 31st Oct:
CON: 28%
LAB: 28%
BXP: 18%
Via @ICMResearch.
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4456 Posts
Election Maps UK (@ElectionMapsUK) Westminster Voting Intention: If Election BEFORE 31st Oct: CON: 37% LAB: 30% BXP: 9% If Election AFTER 31st Oct: CON: 28% LAB: 28% BXP: 18% Via @ICMResearch. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8201 Posts
On September 06 2019 08:25 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: Interesting voting intention poll shows the difference in intent between vote before Oct31 or after : Election Maps UK (@ElectionMapsUK) Westminster Voting Intention: If Election BEFORE 31st Oct: CON: 37% LAB: 30% BXP: 9% If Election AFTER 31st Oct: CON: 28% LAB: 28% BXP: 18% Via @ICMResearch. Weird, where are the lib dem? From other polls, it seems both BXP+CON is doing more or less exactly the same than LAB+LBD+Green, around 46 / 47% It’s amazing that after this week, a third of voters still consider voting Johnson. What a time we live in... | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom10011 Posts
On September 06 2019 10:22 Biff The Understudy wrote: Weird, where are the lib dem? From other polls, it seems both BXP+CON is doing more or less exactly the same than LAB+LBD+Green, around 46 / 47% It’s amazing that after this week, a third of voters still consider voting Johnson. What a time we live in... I hope rightwingers keep telling us this election is a foregone conclusion and Johnson will win by a massive landslide. That kind of confidence is reassuring. | ||
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Simberto
Germany12026 Posts
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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
Didn't Nancy pelosi say that unless the good Friday agreement is heeded, there won't be a trade deal? I have never seen this addressed by either party in Westminster. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22662 Posts
On September 06 2019 17:59 Artisreal wrote: The government in general appears to work really hard at completely ignoring what to do about the Irish border despite repeatedly saying that the backstop is the problem with the EU's offer.It appears to me no matter what the union took a massive hit and neither con nor Brexit party seem to care in the slightest about the island of Ireland's stability. Didn't Nancy pelosi say that unless the good Friday agreement is heeded, there won't be a trade deal? I have never seen this addressed by either party in Westminster. Probably because they know there is no acceptable solution so talking about it can only highlight their own failures. | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5876 Posts
On September 06 2019 17:59 Artisreal wrote: It appears to me no matter what the union took a massive hit and neither con nor Brexit party seem to care in the slightest about the island of Ireland's stability. Didn't Nancy pelosi say that unless the good Friday agreement is heeded, there won't be a trade deal? I have never seen this addressed by either party in Westminster. I believe Trump also said that there won't be a trade deal if the UK maintains regulatory alignment with the EU. Those two positions are at odds. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8201 Posts
On September 06 2019 19:28 maybenexttime wrote: I believe Trump also said that there won't be a trade deal if the UK maintains regulatory alignment with the EU. Those two positions are at odds. I honestly don’t think that what Trump says matters that much at that point. He has no clue what he is talking about, nothing is thought through and he will probably not be president anymore when it’s time to make said deals. | ||
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Maverick_2009
Somewhere2002 Posts
On September 06 2019 19:34 Biff The Understudy wrote: I honestly don’t think that what Trump says matters that much at that point. He has no clue what he is talking about, nothing is thought through and he will probably not be president anymore when it’s time to make said deals. but hurricane dorian was totally going to devastate alabama, oh no! the forecast even showed alabama was included by a circle specially using black marker! | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5876 Posts
On September 06 2019 19:34 Biff The Understudy wrote: I honestly don’t think that what Trump says matters that much at that point. He has no clue what he is talking about, nothing is thought through and he will probably not be president anymore when it’s time to make said deals. I'm not sure what powers their president has exactly, but if he's in a position to block a deal, then his opinion might matter. And I would't put re-electing Trump past the American voters.  They're very tribal when it comes to politics. | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6233 Posts
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Razyda
1067 Posts
There also is an issue that Brexit preparation in EU (I am saying EU because I am somewhat doubtful about UK ones) will reach the point where no Brexit is actually more damaging than any Brexit. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom10011 Posts
On September 09 2019 18:24 Razyda wrote: Ok, so lets say BJ asks for extension, what reason would it be?? If I remember correctly EU stance on last time was that no extension will be granted, unless there is referendum/election coming. Referendum is not going to happen and election didnt make it through the HoC, so realistically there is no reason to get extension. Lets say he will get an extensions till 31st January - what there to stop him from slouching around for a bit and then calling election on 15th January and essentially putting UK in the same position it would be if election was called now on 15th October?? There also is an issue that Brexit preparation in EU (I am saying EU because I am somewhat doubtful about UK ones) will reach the point where no Brexit is actually more damaging than any Brexit. There will be an election before the end of the year though. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22662 Posts
On September 09 2019 18:24 Razyda wrote: I don't expect the EU to give the UK the finger, even tho I've wanted them to for a while now. Yes they are burning money preparing for a Brexit that may never happen but that's a better alternative then Brexit itself.Ok, so lets say BJ asks for extension, what reason would it be?? If I remember correctly EU stance on last time was that no extension will be granted, unless there is referendum/election coming. Referendum is not going to happen and election didnt make it through the HoC, so realistically there is no reason to get extension. Lets say he will get an extensions till 31st January - what there to stop him from slouching around for a bit and then calling election on 15th January and essentially putting UK in the same position it would be if election was called now on 15th October?? There also is an issue that Brexit preparation in EU (I am saying EU because I am somewhat doubtful about UK ones) will reach the point where no Brexit is actually more damaging than any Brexit. I heard talk that HoC could vote in favor of a new election once the extension was through the HoL? Donno if anything has come from that. As for Boris's talk to the EU when asking for his extension? I expect it to be weak at best with the possibility of being strait comical. Boris doesn't want the extension, he wants to crash out and while Parliament might have ordered him to ask for the extension he can put forth the weakest defence and attempt to sabotage it in whatever way he can. The EU saying no last minute so Parliament no longer has time to act would be a dream come true for Boris. | ||
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schaf
Germany1326 Posts
I mean he constantly forces his European colleagues to basically call him a liar, how indecent is that? My money is (or at least would be) on extension -> election -> small renegotiations -> passing of withdrawal agreement. | ||
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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
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maybenexttime
Poland5876 Posts
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom10011 Posts
On September 10 2019 03:42 maybenexttime wrote: I'm predicting the parliament being with its back against the wall, revoking a. 50, and Boris swallowing the Brexit Party, winning the election and shrugging his hands, admitting that he can't leave after a. 50 was revoked. If A50 ever gets revoked there will be no more politics that isn't brexit. God what a fucking nightmare. | ||
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Silvanel
Poland4769 Posts
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
On September 10 2019 04:38 Jockmcplop wrote: If A50 ever gets revoked there will be no more politics that isn't brexit. God what a fucking nightmare. At least then the status quo will be "stay" rather than "extension limbo" | ||
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