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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44368 Posts
July 05 2019 21:56 GMT
#10761
On July 06 2019 04:40 Acrofales wrote:
I'm a bit confused what's going on over there. You seem to be getting the human mop as Prime Minister and he is bad enough, but he says he wants to dissolve parliament if they don't cooperate. He can't do that, but the Queen can. Would Queen Elizabeth actually go along and dissolve parliament if BoJo shows up and says "make it so"?

In any case, wouldn't that just trigger general elections, something the Tories seem dead set on avoiding?

Your understanding (or lack of) matches mine.
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22649 Posts
July 05 2019 22:32 GMT
#10762
On July 06 2019 04:40 Acrofales wrote:
I'm a bit confused what's going on over there. You seem to be getting the human mop as Prime Minister and he is bad enough, but he says he wants to dissolve parliament if they don't cooperate. He can't do that, but the Queen can. Would Queen Elizabeth actually go along and dissolve parliament if BoJo shows up and says "make it so"?

In any case, wouldn't that just trigger general elections, something the Tories seem dead set on avoiding?
its tough talk that right wingers like. One could easily draw parallels to certain regimes concerning fascism.

Reality its all bark and no bite.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-05 22:38:41
July 05 2019 22:37 GMT
#10763
This is probably wrong, but I associate the dissolve of Parliament with elections. It would make sense that as a undirectly elected PM (as all PM is UK actually are), much in the vein of Theresa May to try to claim a mandate, but I consider that unlikely. But it's Borris Johnson, so who knows what he means or what he is thinking. He is a carefully crafted public image of buffoonery, a tightly scripted Donald Trump, and that is his public appeal.
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
July 05 2019 23:56 GMT
#10764
I hope someone can help me with particular question, or at least describe a coupe of possible outcomes.

I'm using a payment system based in UK, should I think about moving cash away before Brexit/no Brexit happens? The whole situation around British politics just makes no sens to me.
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18459 Posts
July 06 2019 07:54 GMT
#10765
On July 06 2019 08:56 Dav1oN wrote:
I hope someone can help me with particular question, or at least describe a coupe of possible outcomes.

I'm using a payment system based in UK, should I think about moving cash away before Brexit/no Brexit happens? The whole situation around British politics just makes no sens to me.

Depends on the service, but probably not. I'm assuming you're banking in euros, but using some London-based service to do so. You'll have to check that they have gotten banking credentials in another EU country though, or they may not be allowed to trade in Euros anymore after Brexit, but most of the more serious services have done this.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
July 06 2019 09:42 GMT
#10766
Well, calling elections months ahead of a brexit deadline is a proven strategy is it not.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
July 07 2019 10:22 GMT
#10767
On July 06 2019 04:40 Acrofales wrote:
I'm a bit confused what's going on over there. You seem to be getting the human mop as Prime Minister and he is bad enough, but he says he wants to dissolve parliament if they don't cooperate. He can't do that, but the Queen can. Would Queen Elizabeth actually go along and dissolve parliament if BoJo shows up and says "make it so"?

In any case, wouldn't that just trigger general elections, something the Tories seem dead set on avoiding?


The only interesting thing in here is the hypothetical about the Queen. Boris exists as a mouthpiece for stupid things he thought of that morning while jacking off and didn't think about a second time. It's best to assume that if he said it, he won't do it.

The Queen in general just does as she's asked to, but she has put her foot down a time or two. I suspect in this instance she might.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
July 08 2019 20:04 GMT
#10768
So Labour seems to have agreed with the Unions on their Brexit stance. A second referendum on any Brexit deal, deal vs remain. Labour would campaign for remain unless it's a GE first and they get to negotiate their deal. It would still be put to a referendum though.
pmh
Profile Joined March 2016
1416 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-13 12:02:22
July 12 2019 21:00 GMT
#10769
well screw this loll.
pmh
Profile Joined March 2016
1416 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-13 12:00:26
July 13 2019 06:41 GMT
#10770
Nvm.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-13 17:32:34
July 13 2019 17:32 GMT
#10771
Nvm.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12175 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-23 11:20:04
July 23 2019 11:14 GMT
#10772
I like this TED talk about how spending in the election and the targetting ads used in the campaign. Discussing if elections can really be held in the current format in the new IT sphere. Personally I think it can if you start training the populations.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
July 23 2019 11:25 GMT
#10773


BoJo is the next prime minister
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22649 Posts
July 23 2019 11:38 GMT
#10774
On July 23 2019 20:25 ahswtini wrote:
https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1153622243190235139

BoJo is the next prime minister
*graps popcorn*
This should get interesting. (as someone on the outside, for the English its probably a lot less funny)


It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12175 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-23 12:16:45
July 23 2019 12:16 GMT
#10775
On July 23 2019 20:38 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2019 20:25 ahswtini wrote:
https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1153622243190235139

BoJo is the next prime minister
*graps popcorn*
This should get interesting. (as someone on the outside, for the English its probably a lot less funny)




Any bets on how long it takes for Scotland to split and join the EU? Or the slightly less likely one, the UK to apply to join again.

Him as PM means no deal or another vote of no confidence as I understand it?
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
July 23 2019 13:07 GMT
#10776
Imo the ideal thing that could happen would be as follows:
Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland kick England out of the UK and remain in the EU.
passive quaranstream fan
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
July 23 2019 13:33 GMT
#10777
If there really is a grand conspiracy to undermine/cancel brexit, Boris seems to be the only one in a position to do so. My ignorant impression is that people would know if Boris cancelled brexit, it needed to be cancelled.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44368 Posts
July 23 2019 13:43 GMT
#10778
Boris has never once but public good ahead of personal ambition and I doubt he’s going to start now.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
July 23 2019 13:53 GMT
#10779
On July 23 2019 22:43 KwarK wrote:
Boris has never once but public good ahead of personal ambition and I doubt he’s going to start now.

The conspiracy in my head is that brexit is bad for the UK 1% and they are forcing Boris to cancel it. But maybe it's just that I can't accept the fact that this really is a total disaster.

Still, I have a hard time with the idea that the 1% wouldn't do all they can to prevent their wealth from being decreased. Cancelling brexit would help the 1% right?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
July 23 2019 13:55 GMT
#10780
On July 23 2019 20:38 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2019 20:25 ahswtini wrote:
https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1153622243190235139

BoJo is the next prime minister
*graps popcorn*
This should get interesting. (as someone on the outside, for the English its probably a lot less funny)



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