EPTAn interesting point of view, especially with the Scotland vote. There is some shacking coming out of Ireland too.
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Plansix
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An interesting point of view, especially with the Scotland vote. There is some shacking coming out of Ireland too. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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ragz_gt
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Plansix
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On June 24 2016 12:47 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Yeah, the referendum was a way for him to avoid some issue back in 2015, right? | ||
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Sermokala
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m4ini
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On June 24 2016 12:48 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: And the Scottish guest in the BBC said that they will call for an Independence vote. Nah, as was explained earlier by an Englishman, they won't get a referendum. "Westminster will simply block it indefinitely" i think were his words. | ||
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Vin{MBL}
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Kipsate
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Plansix
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showstealer1829
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On June 24 2016 12:49 Plansix wrote: Yeah, the referendum was a way for him to avoid some issue back in 2015, right? It was basically to stop UKIP. | ||
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m4ini
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On June 24 2016 12:49 Sermokala wrote: Germany is going to demand that the UK is made an example of in the trade deal to hold their new empire together. Everything else would be dumb. The UK has very little to no bargaining chips in the coming discussions. Why would someone cater to them? It won't be just germany btw. The UK will get shafted by many countries that were already complaining constantly about the special snowflake status. edit: to make it a bit more clear: the UK now is (rather, will be) a competitor, not a partner. You're delusional if you think that the UK would act any different towards scotland if they'd become independent, as they've already made extremely clear. | ||
KwarK
United States43990 Posts
The SNP have yet another result which shows Scotland voting politically differently from England and getting overruled because of the numbers. This will solidify their independence claims and will hurt the Labour party in Scotland even more. Labour being dead in Scotland will continue to fuck them hard in the parliamentary elections because there just aren't enough Labour voters in England. | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4416 Posts
On June 24 2016 12:49 Sermokala wrote: Germany is going to demand that the UK is made an example of in the trade deal to hold their new empire together. Do that then Germany goes down too rofl. You realise how much more Germany exports to Britain compared to imports? European Union is over, the Euro currency is over, this is it. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Yeah, he is fucked. And now everyone else is going to have to slap down the harsh reality that they might not leave after the referendum. Because the political landscape of leaving with Scotland wanting to stay is not a good one. Plus the rest of the EU wanting to make an example of the UK so everyone else doesn't decide to hold their own version of "ask the masses about the best way to deal with super complicated economic issues". On June 24 2016 12:59 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: Do that then Germany goes down too rofl. You realise how much more Germany exports to Britain compared to imports? European Union is over, the Euro currency is over, this is it. The Germans seem like the culture type to take a hit just to make a point. | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4416 Posts
On June 24 2016 13:00 Plansix wrote: Yeah, he is fucked. And now everyone else is going to have to slap down the harsh reality that they might not leave after the referendum. Because the political landscape of leaving with Scotland wanting to stay is not a good one. Plus the rest of the EU wanting to make an example of the UK so everyone else doesn't decide to hold their own version of "ask the masses about the best way to deal with super complicated economic issues". You realise this victory has energised anti eu sentiment all over Europe? If the parliament refuses to allow Britain to withdraw from the EU then the anti-EU movement will totally explode.I really think this is the end for the EU. ![[image loading]](https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/56b98ab46f7e45e6257be1c7d90007879f5d7db5/0_37_2689_1613/master/2689.jpg?w=1920&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=e84b3bd32714db6275435ca625496241) | ||
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LegalLord
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KwarK
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On June 24 2016 13:03 LegalLord wrote: Yeah, going against a major national vote goes down much more poorly than supporting any given position without that factor. A defect against this vote is really going to be quite shitty for the political career of anyone who does it. Two tier status might still be on the cards which is what most of Britain always wanted. We'll see what France and Germany do. | ||
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m4ini
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The Germans seem like the culture type to take a hit just to make a point. That's just a dumb statement with pretty much no basis in reality. Or do you, by chance, have sources where that happened? Two tier status might still be on the cards which is what most of Britain always wanted. We'll see what France and Germany do. Not sure if Brits realize, but there's a couple more countries that have a say in this. There won't be a two tier status. Because that actually would be political suicide. There's literally zero chance for that. | ||
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
On June 24 2016 13:00 Plansix wrote: Yeah, he is fucked. And now everyone else is going to have to slap down the harsh reality that they might not leave after the referendum. Because the political landscape of leaving with Scotland wanting to stay is not a good one. Plus the rest of the EU wanting to make an example of the UK so everyone else doesn't decide to hold their own version of "ask the masses about the best way to deal with super complicated economic issues". The Germans seem like the culture type to take a hit just to make a point. Uk is not greece, the ethical implications are also different. | ||
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