EPTThat's a can of worms no one wants reopening.
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imallinson
United Kingdom3482 Posts
That's a can of worms no one wants reopening. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
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Espers
United Kingdom606 Posts
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Dante08
Singapore4139 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 24 2016 13:31 imallinson wrote: https://twitter.com/pzf/status/746199392953065473 That's a can of worms no one wants reopening. How much support does that party have? On June 24 2016 13:32 Dante08 wrote: I wonder what the other big EU economies (Germany) thinks about this. Be careful what you wish for, my British friends? | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On June 24 2016 13:32 Dante08 wrote: I wonder what the other big EU economies (Germany) thinks about this. Watching the BBC in Brussels, seems like they're all in a huge panic and trying to figure out how to respond to this. We'll see how this goes down. | ||
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imallinson
United Kingdom3482 Posts
Probably not enough to actually win a referendum if it got to it but the last time NI independence was being discussed it got very violent. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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Vin{MBL}
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zimz
United States510 Posts
On June 24 2016 13:35 LegalLord wrote: Watching the BBC in Brussels, seems like they're all in a huge panic and trying to figure out how to respond to this. We'll see how this goes down. I feel like Germany already does so much for the EU, with Brexit it can only be worse, they have my sympathy. | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4383 Posts
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
On June 24 2016 13:35 imallinson wrote: Probably not enough to actually win a referendum if it got to it but the last time NI independence was being discussed it got very violent. Indeed that can of works as I said takes us back to the good ol' days of the IRA bombing the shit out of people | ||
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geokilla
Canada8245 Posts
Scotland and Northern Ireland voted to stay in EU because they have more to benefit from that than if they left. But now that UK is going to leave EU, other countries will consider leaving as well. I think Greece will be next, along with Scotland and Northern Ireland. Germany might want to leave too. *This is just my uneducated opinion, with no consideration on the immigration policy being discussed or anything like that because I didn't even know about that till now* | ||
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m4ini
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Simply put, that if the EU wants to be petty it's not going to be good for anyone, so cheering this result on just sounds very spiteful. It seems people only like democracy when democracy is in tacit approval of only the things they want/like. Same people tend to also deride the selfishness and self-interest of others. :p I am enjoying tonight. I don't deny my own little slice of pettiness lol. That's what i mean. It's not "the EU being petty". That's just a ridiculously dumb statement to make, and would only work in Lala-Land. It's simply economics. Economies in the EU will take a slight hit, true. The economy of the UK will take a big hit. One needs the other more than the other way around. That's simply how the world works, and funny enough, your country is pretty much the king at this game. The UK will be in a disadvantageous position (not just in regards to trading with the EU btw, they will have to negotiate their own deals pretty much everywhere, with much less leverage). Ask yourself, what would the US do? Would they exploit the fuck out of whatever country is in a worse situation? That's how the world works. If you agree with it or not (i don't like it, but what are you gonna do?). That has nothing to do with spitefulness. First and foremost, countries and institutions will serve themselves. Nationalism. Isn't that what Britons wanted in the first place? Actually literally called for it? So how are other countries bad guys if they just do the same? I personally btw don't really like democracy at any point. The problem is that i can't really think of a better system, admittedly - that doesn't mean that i need to ignore all the bullshit that comes with democracy though. edit: and lol at the Geert Wilders statement.. How surprising. Oh, and how fitting. A populistic, raging xenophobe calling for something. Sounds familiar. | ||
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Lockitupv2
United States496 Posts
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RvB
Netherlands6263 Posts
On June 24 2016 13:27 Wegandi wrote: I got lambasted in the other thread that the EU member countries would evoke trade wars with UK if they left, but that seems to be the opinion of the posters in this thread - how odd. Tell me how it would be any different in the macro scheme from the UK paying a fee to the EU than paying tariffs (yes, I understand it may have disparate impact on certain industries, but do you have any specific #'s in terms of total outlays). If the EU wants to shoot themselves in the foot over a power-play that's their prerogative, but it seems quite myopic. Simply put, that if the EU wants to be petty it's not going to be good for anyone, so cheering this result on just sounds very spiteful. It seems people only like democracy when democracy is in tacit approval of only the things they want/like. Same people tend to also deride the selfishness and self-interest of others. :p I am enjoying tonight. I don't deny my own little slice of pettiness lol. Again there will be no trade war. They will have to negotiate a new FTA. They will not make negotiations easy but that is something else than a trade war with full blown tariffs. The fee you are talking about I assume is the money getting paid in the EU budget? Every country in the EU has to do that. Anyway interesting times. Never thought they would actually leave. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 24 2016 13:41 RvB wrote: Again there will be no trade war. They will have to negotiate a new FTA. They will not make negotiations easy but that is something else than a trade war with full blown tariffs. The fee you are talking about I assume is the money getting paid in the EU budget? Every country in the EU has to do that. Anyway interesting times. Never thought they would actually leave. They might not yet. The Scots and Ireland seem to be "not pumped" about the vote. And its not binding. | ||
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zeo
Serbia6336 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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geokilla
Canada8245 Posts
On June 24 2016 13:44 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Wall St is going to be pissed in the morning. World markets and world currencies already are. | ||
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