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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
February 08 2013 17:52 GMT
#281
On February 08 2013 01:27 Martijn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 01:19 Cel.erity wrote:
On February 08 2013 01:16 Lash- wrote:
Only time will tell us wether this is good or bad for them streamers


Why would it be good for them?


If a significant number of people that adblock buy turbo, it's great for streamers. Actually, it's great for 99.99% of the streamers regardless because they don't use subscribers. If it's a considerable number, then even the streamers with subscribers benefit.


Why would anyone that uses adblock anyway buy turbo?
Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
February 08 2013 18:05 GMT
#282
On February 09 2013 02:52 Yoshi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 01:27 Martijn wrote:
On February 08 2013 01:19 Cel.erity wrote:
On February 08 2013 01:16 Lash- wrote:
Only time will tell us wether this is good or bad for them streamers


Why would it be good for them?


If a significant number of people that adblock buy turbo, it's great for streamers. Actually, it's great for 99.99% of the streamers regardless because they don't use subscribers. If it's a considerable number, then even the streamers with subscribers benefit.


Why would anyone that uses adblock anyway buy turbo?


To support the players/streamers.
http://www.glhf.tv fighting! Former WesternWolves & LowLandLions operations manager.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-08 18:10:31
February 08 2013 18:06 GMT
#283
On February 09 2013 03:05 Martijn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 02:52 Yoshi- wrote:
On February 08 2013 01:27 Martijn wrote:
On February 08 2013 01:19 Cel.erity wrote:
On February 08 2013 01:16 Lash- wrote:
Only time will tell us wether this is good or bad for them streamers


Why would it be good for them?


If a significant number of people that adblock buy turbo, it's great for streamers. Actually, it's great for 99.99% of the streamers regardless because they don't use subscribers. If it's a considerable number, then even the streamers with subscribers benefit.


Why would anyone that uses adblock anyway buy turbo?


To support the players/streamers.


Which is wishful thinking and will rarely happen and buying subscription to the channels will certainly help the streamers more than twitch turbo.
Mackem
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom470 Posts
February 08 2013 18:20 GMT
#284
I use Adblock but I want to support the streamers that I regularly watch but previously couldn't afford to subscribe to every channel I wanted to, so this may be a great option for me, shame they don't have any other cool benefits though (Being able to have two streams side-by-side/top&bottom for example directly on Twitch would've been sick)
Do you need a pole? I ask because your logical leaps are becoming logical vaults and your mental gymnastics are Olympic standard.
Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
February 09 2013 07:46 GMT
#285
On February 09 2013 03:06 Yoshi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 03:05 Martijn wrote:
On February 09 2013 02:52 Yoshi- wrote:
On February 08 2013 01:27 Martijn wrote:
On February 08 2013 01:19 Cel.erity wrote:
On February 08 2013 01:16 Lash- wrote:
Only time will tell us wether this is good or bad for them streamers


Why would it be good for them?


If a significant number of people that adblock buy turbo, it's great for streamers. Actually, it's great for 99.99% of the streamers regardless because they don't use subscribers. If it's a considerable number, then even the streamers with subscribers benefit.


Why would anyone that uses adblock anyway buy turbo?


To support the players/streamers.


Which is wishful thinking and will rarely happen and buying subscription to the channels will certainly help the streamers more than twitch turbo.


Buying multiple subscriptions is costly, likely outside of the budget of many people. Turbo is more reasonable for many.

You can say it's wishful thinking, but I adblocked and now have turbo. Surely I'm not the only one.
http://www.glhf.tv fighting! Former WesternWolves & LowLandLions operations manager.
Fingerpin
Profile Joined October 2011
Denmark10 Posts
February 09 2013 14:14 GMT
#286
The 10 dollars for Twitch Turbo goes to Twitch only. The streamers do not get a cut from that pot.

You do not support the streamers buying turbo, you're supporting Twitch.
It's important that people understands this.
Cogito ergo sum
Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 14:18:31
February 09 2013 14:17 GMT
#287
On February 09 2013 23:14 Fingerpin wrote:
The 10 dollars for Twitch Turbo goes to Twitch only. The streamers do not get a cut from that pot.

You do not support the streamers buying turbo, you're supporting Twitch.
It's important that people understands this.


Except if you were previously adblocking, in which case, you're now giving the streamers ad-revenue they weren't getting previously and supporting the streamers. It's important to think things through and not misrepresent things.
http://www.glhf.tv fighting! Former WesternWolves & LowLandLions operations manager.
mrgoochio
Profile Joined April 2009
United States557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 14:18:36
February 09 2013 14:18 GMT
#288
Streamers get money when a turbo user has adblock and watches the channel. The streamer supposedly gets the money from the ad they would have seen otherwise.

Or at least I think thats what people are assuming
chengysogood
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
February 09 2013 14:19 GMT
#289
On February 09 2013 23:14 Fingerpin wrote:
The 10 dollars for Twitch Turbo goes to Twitch only. The streamers do not get a cut from that pot.

You do not support the streamers buying turbo, you're supporting Twitch.
It's important that people understands this.


Wait so a 2-post account that clearly hasn't read the OP claims to know better than Gunrun how Twitch's new service works. Please, tell us more!
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
phANT1m
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
South Africa535 Posts
February 09 2013 19:03 GMT
#290
I think they mean support the streamers because the steamers still get ad revenue.
teapot
Profile Joined October 2007
United Kingdom266 Posts
February 09 2013 19:13 GMT
#291
You might as well go to adblock settings and disable adblock for Twitch and save yourself some money.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
February 09 2013 22:27 GMT
#292
On February 09 2013 23:17 Martijn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 23:14 Fingerpin wrote:
The 10 dollars for Twitch Turbo goes to Twitch only. The streamers do not get a cut from that pot.

You do not support the streamers buying turbo, you're supporting Twitch.
It's important that people understands this.


Except if you were previously adblocking, in which case, you're now giving the streamers ad-revenue they weren't getting previously and supporting the streamers. It's important to think things through and not misrepresent things.


You're right but that level of 'support' is negligible. It's like really, really, really not even worth considering.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
February 09 2013 22:32 GMT
#293
On February 10 2013 07:27 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 23:17 Martijn wrote:
On February 09 2013 23:14 Fingerpin wrote:
The 10 dollars for Twitch Turbo goes to Twitch only. The streamers do not get a cut from that pot.

You do not support the streamers buying turbo, you're supporting Twitch.
It's important that people understands this.


Except if you were previously adblocking, in which case, you're now giving the streamers ad-revenue they weren't getting previously and supporting the streamers. It's important to think things through and not misrepresent things.


You're right but that level of 'support' is negligible. It's like really, really, really not even worth considering.


You know how much money adblock costs us? It's a huge chunk. If even just 1% of the people adblocking would have turbo, we'd feel it.
http://www.glhf.tv fighting! Former WesternWolves & LowLandLions operations manager.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
February 10 2013 03:05 GMT
#294
On February 10 2013 07:32 Martijn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 07:27 crms wrote:
On February 09 2013 23:17 Martijn wrote:
On February 09 2013 23:14 Fingerpin wrote:
The 10 dollars for Twitch Turbo goes to Twitch only. The streamers do not get a cut from that pot.

You do not support the streamers buying turbo, you're supporting Twitch.
It's important that people understands this.


Except if you were previously adblocking, in which case, you're now giving the streamers ad-revenue they weren't getting previously and supporting the streamers. It's important to think things through and not misrepresent things.


You're right but that level of 'support' is negligible. It's like really, really, really not even worth considering.


You know how much money adblock costs us? It's a huge chunk. If even just 1% of the people adblocking would have turbo, we'd feel it.


Maybe, but it's still worse than 0.01% of those people subscribing to your channel.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
February 10 2013 09:03 GMT
#295
On February 10 2013 12:05 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 07:32 Martijn wrote:
On February 10 2013 07:27 crms wrote:
On February 09 2013 23:17 Martijn wrote:
On February 09 2013 23:14 Fingerpin wrote:
The 10 dollars for Twitch Turbo goes to Twitch only. The streamers do not get a cut from that pot.

You do not support the streamers buying turbo, you're supporting Twitch.
It's important that people understands this.


Except if you were previously adblocking, in which case, you're now giving the streamers ad-revenue they weren't getting previously and supporting the streamers. It's important to think things through and not misrepresent things.


You're right but that level of 'support' is negligible. It's like really, really, really not even worth considering.


You know how much money adblock costs us? It's a huge chunk. If even just 1% of the people adblocking would have turbo, we'd feel it.


Maybe, but it's still worse than 0.01% of those people subscribing to your channel.


Good thing a majority of streamers didn't use subscriptions. Most big events don't either.
http://www.glhf.tv fighting! Former WesternWolves & LowLandLions operations manager.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
February 10 2013 09:13 GMT
#296
On February 10 2013 18:03 Martijn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 12:05 Cel.erity wrote:
On February 10 2013 07:32 Martijn wrote:
On February 10 2013 07:27 crms wrote:
On February 09 2013 23:17 Martijn wrote:
On February 09 2013 23:14 Fingerpin wrote:
The 10 dollars for Twitch Turbo goes to Twitch only. The streamers do not get a cut from that pot.

You do not support the streamers buying turbo, you're supporting Twitch.
It's important that people understands this.


Except if you were previously adblocking, in which case, you're now giving the streamers ad-revenue they weren't getting previously and supporting the streamers. It's important to think things through and not misrepresent things.


You're right but that level of 'support' is negligible. It's like really, really, really not even worth considering.


You know how much money adblock costs us? It's a huge chunk. If even just 1% of the people adblocking would have turbo, we'd feel it.


Maybe, but it's still worse than 0.01% of those people subscribing to your channel.


Good thing a majority of streamers didn't use subscriptions. Most big events don't either.


It's still true that buying Turbo does not support the streamers in any way. If you are using adblock and you want to support the streamers, you could just turn off adblock. Buying Turbo is a second option but none of that money benefits your favorite streamers. You can make the case that Turbo is a net positive for stream income and I won't argue with you, but that doesn't change the fact that Twitch could have implemented it in a way where more money goes to the streamers, but instead chose the greediest possible route.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
February 10 2013 09:28 GMT
#297
On February 10 2013 18:13 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 18:03 Martijn wrote:
On February 10 2013 12:05 Cel.erity wrote:
On February 10 2013 07:32 Martijn wrote:
On February 10 2013 07:27 crms wrote:
On February 09 2013 23:17 Martijn wrote:
On February 09 2013 23:14 Fingerpin wrote:
The 10 dollars for Twitch Turbo goes to Twitch only. The streamers do not get a cut from that pot.

You do not support the streamers buying turbo, you're supporting Twitch.
It's important that people understands this.


Except if you were previously adblocking, in which case, you're now giving the streamers ad-revenue they weren't getting previously and supporting the streamers. It's important to think things through and not misrepresent things.


You're right but that level of 'support' is negligible. It's like really, really, really not even worth considering.


You know how much money adblock costs us? It's a huge chunk. If even just 1% of the people adblocking would have turbo, we'd feel it.


Maybe, but it's still worse than 0.01% of those people subscribing to your channel.


Good thing a majority of streamers didn't use subscriptions. Most big events don't either.


It's still true that buying Turbo does not support the streamers in any way. If you are using adblock and you want to support the streamers, you could just turn off adblock. Buying Turbo is a second option but none of that money benefits your favorite streamers. You can make the case that Turbo is a net positive for stream income and I won't argue with you, but that doesn't change the fact that Twitch could have implemented it in a way where more money goes to the streamers, but instead chose the greediest possible route.


Turbo gives ad revenue to streamers even from people with ad block. This means streamers get more money, and supports the streamers. What you're arguing is purely semantics. It doesn't really matter how the money gets to the streamers, just that it does.
http://www.glhf.tv fighting! Former WesternWolves & LowLandLions operations manager.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
February 10 2013 10:03 GMT
#298
On February 10 2013 18:28 Martijn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 18:13 Cel.erity wrote:
On February 10 2013 18:03 Martijn wrote:
On February 10 2013 12:05 Cel.erity wrote:
On February 10 2013 07:32 Martijn wrote:
On February 10 2013 07:27 crms wrote:
On February 09 2013 23:17 Martijn wrote:
On February 09 2013 23:14 Fingerpin wrote:
The 10 dollars for Twitch Turbo goes to Twitch only. The streamers do not get a cut from that pot.

You do not support the streamers buying turbo, you're supporting Twitch.
It's important that people understands this.


Except if you were previously adblocking, in which case, you're now giving the streamers ad-revenue they weren't getting previously and supporting the streamers. It's important to think things through and not misrepresent things.


You're right but that level of 'support' is negligible. It's like really, really, really not even worth considering.


You know how much money adblock costs us? It's a huge chunk. If even just 1% of the people adblocking would have turbo, we'd feel it.


Maybe, but it's still worse than 0.01% of those people subscribing to your channel.


Good thing a majority of streamers didn't use subscriptions. Most big events don't either.


It's still true that buying Turbo does not support the streamers in any way. If you are using adblock and you want to support the streamers, you could just turn off adblock. Buying Turbo is a second option but none of that money benefits your favorite streamers. You can make the case that Turbo is a net positive for stream income and I won't argue with you, but that doesn't change the fact that Twitch could have implemented it in a way where more money goes to the streamers, but instead chose the greediest possible route.


Turbo gives ad revenue to streamers even from people with ad block. This means streamers get more money, and supports the streamers. What you're arguing is purely semantics. It doesn't really matter how the money gets to the streamers, just that it does.



That's nonsense. I'm arguing that Twitch could have implemented something like a referral program, where users can sign up for Turbo through a streamer's page, and that streamer gets 10% of the monthly revenue. This would give incentive for streamers to plug Turbo, as opposed to the way it is now where it is merely a burden on streamers with subscription bases. The only reason Twitch wouldn't consider something like this is because they no longer have any competition.

Your statement that buying Turbo supports the streamers is completely false, it doesn't support the streamers in any capacity beyond what you could've done if you simply disabled Adblock for their stream.

And by the way, you have absolutely no evidence that this is even going to bring streamers more revenue overall. It is most likely going to be a negligible gain for most streamers and a massive hit for a few. I personally believe that the net loss will outweigh the gain, but again, nobody really knows for sure.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Sea_Food
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Finland1612 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-10 10:11:32
February 10 2013 10:10 GMT
#299
There are people who think this is a good thing lol.

Athene was right. Because we destroyed own3d twitch now has a sort of monopoly which is always a bad thing, no exceptions. Even if you think this update causes no harm, you will see updates that u will agree are bad aswell.

This will not end here.
Heouf
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands787 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-10 10:21:30
February 10 2013 10:12 GMT
#300
Well there is not much benefit for me to do this.
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