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On March 31 2013 01:01 radscorpion9 wrote:
There are only so many times that you can escalate your rhetoric. At some point it just can't get any higher and its either going to be a war or an embarrassing situation for North Korea when nothing happens for a few months, while drills continue to go on in South Korea.

From reading articles on BBC I think the main danger is someone makes a mistake, and it leads to military action. But besides that, North Korea *has* (relatively recently) shelled islands and killed a few people from South Korea if I remember correctly, so I don't think its unlikely that they would do something similar again; they don't seem to afraid of repercussions on the small scale at least. The question is how would the US and South Korea respond? And how much escalation would there be from that point? Just tangentially, because its an important historical reference (and I can't think of any others), if the war cabinet is as stubborn in North Korea as they were back in Japan, then that arrogance and delusion, combined with believing their own rhetoric, could lead to a pretty serious situation.

It is a very difficult situation, because how can the US justify not preparing for the insanity of North Korea through military drills? And yet those very drills are making the situation more dangerous. We just have to hope that shelling islands is the most North Korea is willing to do, and that there is no serious response from the US/South Korea that would justify further NK aggression. Honestly sometimes I think they should do a preemptive strike.

On March 30 2013 22:42 Zaros wrote:


Because America hasn't broke NATO rules at all before, its increasingly meaningless. As for the last korean war, france barely got involved and Britain only sent 15,000 troops and thats when we actually had bases east of suez, we won't send anything meaningful if war breaks out.

On March 30 2013 19:23 darkness wrote:
I've been thinking... what if the NK leader isn't that stupid, but his father just had a wish before dying?

Also, if NK attacks USA, would NATA respond too?

On March 31 2013 01:18 FakeDeath wrote:


Sure NK can do some shelling along the coastal line.
But that's all they can do.

They can't declared war at all.
NK is just making noises like i said.

Plus,China will never let NK declared war anyways.

The only reason NK can go on for this long(making " noises ") is because of China friendship with NK.

On March 31 2013 01:35 hitthat wrote:
WOW... NK is already bigger attention whore than my own country...

On March 30 2013 21:45 DrCooper wrote:

If you mean NATO then yes. It is inevitable because a member of the NATO was attacked. If NK attacks SK, then no because SK is not a member of the NATO. And if the US attacks NK first it would be the same story as it was with Iraq.

On March 31 2013 01:49 overt wrote:


NK has tunnels that go into SK. We have no clue how deep they go but some of the tunnels are big enough that tanks and vehicles could traverse them. NK has nukes and they could, if they wanted to, hit Seoul with a nuke from the DMZ. If they wanted to they could kill a massive number of South Koreans before the US and others would be able to stop them. They have one of the largest militaries in the world and they have nuclear weaponry. Saying that all they're capable of is "shelling along the coastal line," is pretty naive. I would agree that they're probably just making noise but they've been prepping for war with South Korea since the end of the Korean War.

I don't even understand your comment on China. North Korea routinely does things that China dislikes or wouldn't agree with. It's not like they have a very tight lease around North Korea.

edit:
Unless your post meant they couldn't really do anything to the US. In which case, yeah. But they likely wouldn't attack the United States they'd invade South Korea.

On March 31 2013 03:44 KwarK wrote:

Having nukes and having missiles that can hit Seoul is not the same thing as having short range nuclear missiles. While I'm happy to admit that I don't know the exact technology available to NK their nuclear tests thus far have been controlled science experiments rather than launched nuclear warheads. There are further challenges to miniaturise the nuke before it becomes a functional warhead. It's not like they can have their physicists drive into Seoul and set up a test lab. Now, they may have already done all that or it may all be really easy to do but they have not, to my knowledge, done a nuclear missile test.

On March 31 2013 03:39 KwarK wrote:

I believe NATO needs to be invoked and requires a formally declared state of war among other things. When the United Kingdom was invaded in 1983 NATO was not involved for various diplomatic reasons. Of course NK is diplomatically isolated and the US runs NATO so I'd imagine NATO would be involved.

On March 31 2013 05:25 DrCooper wrote:

Why the NATO was not involved in 1983 was due to Article 6, which is basically saying that the attack has to be north of the "Tropic of Cancer".
But I just read that a NATO member can choose what kind of help they offer. It doesn't have to be troops.

Also, I believe that North Korea and South Korea are in an official declared state of war atm. They have been since the Korean War. They just have an armistice (don't know wheter this is the correct term, basically they just agreed to stop fighting, but have not declared peace).
If someone knows better, please correct me!

On March 31 2013 05:32 FabledIntegral wrote:


I believe they cancelled the armistice or at least threatened to via cancelling the hotlines a few weeks ago, hence the tension?

On March 31 2013 05:32 FabledIntegral wrote:


I believe they cancelled the armistice or at least threatened to via cancelling the hotlines a few weeks ago, hence the tension?

On March 31 2013 05:40 Liman wrote:
I don't believe any of that shit.
North Korea is just a puppet in hands of west who is trying to scare their own people so that they wouldn't think about real problems,such as economy,health,declining social norms etc.
Even if its all true they wouldn't be able to launch one missile with nuclear warhead before 10 tomahawk missiles hit that site.
Bunch of BS.

On March 31 2013 05:41 farvacola wrote:

Do tell, what sort of ground breaking information do you have access to that reveals this North Korean puppet act?

On March 31 2013 05:41 farvacola wrote:

Do tell, what sort of ground breaking information do you have access to that reveals this North Korean puppet act?

On March 31 2013 05:49 Liman wrote:


Sorry cant tell you its classified

On a serious note,this is just my opinion which i formed from my history studies (i have a history degree).Knowing history is not just dates and events,its having awareness of what is behind those events.