EU Tobacco-Snus Scandal - Page 3

On October 23 2012 05:50 theJob wrote:
A friend of mine jammed a fork into his eye, therefore I think forks should be banned.

On October 23 2012 04:15 Tiegrr wrote:
Seems pretty much like the "chewing tobacco" we have here in the states. Personally, I find it disgusting and I support this ban. My friend is 26 and already had to get prosthetics to replace his four front lower teeth a few months ago (he's been using it as an alternative to smoking for about 6 years).

On October 23 2012 05:56 Caihead wrote:


Primary purpose of a fork isn't to be jammed into a person's eye. Primary purpose of a cigarette / snus is... fill in the blank yourself. You are supposed to get addicted off this stuff, it comes with the product.

On October 23 2012 05:47 Nihilnovi wrote:


You are being ridiculous and your addiction to nicotine is typing the words you are posting here, it's actually kind of sad to see.

The gums of long term snus users look absolutely terrible, several of which can fit a small sized potatoe cut in half behind their lip due to the hole from snus usage causing gum retraction. 6 years is not long term, especially if you started at a young age when the body is at its peak physical condition. The problems from nicotine don't arise in such a short timespan, I used to smoke for 10 years between the age of 14 to 24 and had no negative effects on my health during that time, I also used snus on and off.

I havent smoked a single cigarette or used nicotine in any way shape or form since. The short term effects were amazing, the feeling of accomplishment after going to the gym when your brain is free to stimulate your reward system is just something on a whole different level, sex becomes so much better and the feelings you experience when you accomplish difficult tasks is extatic.

You start encountering issues with poisoning your body and getting addicted to dopamine stimulation from drugs when you get older, making it that much harder to stop. Snus users run an increased risk of pancreatic cancer, have a dysfunctional metabolic system due to high nicotine intake and their blood vessels become increasingly ineffecient.

Just this year, type 2 diabetes was linked to the metabolic system and accepted in generally all medical journals, and studies have started not to determine <if> the metabolic dysfunction caused by nicotine increases the chance of diabetes, but by how much.

With nicotine being more addicting than both cocaine and heroin due to it's profound impact on the mesombilic pathway ,the psychological risks you take when becoming addicted to something that is 100% proven to retard your brains reward system are tremendous. It alters your whole persona and transforms your way of thinking, they way you experience good things that happen in life becomes less impactful due to the retardation caused by nicotine.

Basically, taking a snus is like writing a cheat code that causes you to feel good about yourself, now if you write that cheat code and have that experience 3-10 times a day, when you actually do something awesome your brain just goes "meh".

Your whole way of arguing by comparing snus to anything else is warped, you should take something for what it is on itself, you shouldn't cloud your judgement based on your own extreme nicotine addiction, the simple fact is you are a different person both mentally and physically in a negative way when addicting yourself to nicotine or any drug designed to retard your reward system.

And yes, alcohol should be illegal, but it will not because of the financial and cultural impact, mainly to how easy it is to produce for the general population, not because of the health risks.

Apple pie is delicious.

edit:
Take it from someone thats "been there and done that", breaking free of a 10 year+ nictoine addiction is one of the hardest things I've had to do in life. What I got in return is a perspective on certain things that nobody can teach you. Quit while you can, the feeling nicotine gives you is replaceable by being awesome.

On October 23 2012 04:17 WTFZerg wrote:


You can get snus in the US at pretty much any gas station. The one I worked at had this little refrigerated display case for the containers. It's a little different than chewing tobacco.

On October 23 2012 06:18 Promethelax wrote:
where I'm from in the states snus was a pretty big thing. I knew a bunch of guys when I was about 18 who were really into putting a snus pack in a vodka shot and letting it permeate the alcohol with nicotine and taking these snus shots.
Snus is greatly preferable to smoking or chewing tobacco. It doesn't affect those around you which is the main, not health related, draw back to public usage of the other tobacco products.

I haven't seen it up here in Canada at all though.

On October 23 2012 06:21 loladin wrote:


Are you sure that was snus..? Because that sounds fucking horrible. Like super fucking horrible. Anyone who has taken a swig of an ale bottle with snus (dumped) in it would agree.

On October 23 2012 06:26 Pimpmuckl wrote:
Two things i don't get here:
a) Why would snus be banned.
b) Why would snus be any better than smoking if you overlook the effect on your friends/family.

And Nihilnovi's story was quite the treat .

On October 23 2012 06:05 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Is that what you tell yourself thejob, when you try to travel to and from the USA?

Is that what you tell yourself whenever you encounter the hundreds of laws or social situations which tell you what you can or cannot do?

Heck, there is probably a law from the authority of your government detailing your own seatbelt usage.

On October 23 2012 05:10 Euronyme wrote:


Uhmhm.. Comparing snus to meth are we?
I guess we should ban beer and apple pie too. I mean it's not good for you after all.