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On September 15 2012 02:52 Boblhead wrote:I just watched the so called movie, and let me tell you. How the fuck could anyone take this shit seriously? I mean even if I was religious the movie was probably the worst composed thing I have ever seen in my life. They really rioted over something so stupid? Its times like these were I wish religion didn't exist. + Show Spoiler +note-I'm not arguing to anyone on religion, I am simply stating I wish religion didn't exist.
i bet you $230 of those muslims watched the movie - its one person who tells someone and it spreads like wildfire. "American showed the profit muheemad and mocked his holy name! rabble rabble!" etc etc.
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The image of these people ransacking KFC's and other stores is truly amazing.
What on earth, you must wonder, makes these people who are poor enough as it is, turn on stores and other places of employment? They have little enough as it is, but in their rage and collectivist insanity, they need to destroy more.
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^ I think it's a in a fit of anger thing. They aren't thinking so much, or perhaps aren't even thinking at all.
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they did that on $5 million production?
Jackass was filmed on $5 million and it had way better quality
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how are we supposed to take these countries seriously ? I mean who the fuck kills people for a god damn shitty movie, what's their goal they're trying to achieve ?
" look we're tough we kill your friends because of a movie ! look look ! "
Is that it ? is that their fucking goal ?
I dont get it at ALL.
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On September 15 2012 03:40 fluidin wrote:
^ I think it's a in a fit of anger thing. They aren't thinking so much, or perhaps aren't even thinking at all.
Well, that much is obvious.
I just think it shows the insanity of this group thinking. It is like a starving man throwing away food.
Suddenly, everything and everyone belongs to these groups. Destroying a KFC suddenly becomes a revolutionairy act, because, surely, KFC is America, right?
What is the reality? Several people in the area will not be going back to work next week. They are going to have to be hooked up to the wellfare-IV of oil money.
The truth is that these collectivist movements aren't the result of poverty, they are a large cause of it.
They throw away everything, just to be part of the group. And you know what is worst? They throw away other people's possessions and rights. All for the greater good, be it some political movement or in this case a religious system that begs to be defended.
People are going to be out of work, and no amount of prayer is going to feed their stomachs.
The cold hard truth is that several years down the road, this region is going to have no purpose. It doesn't have a highly educated population, its governments aren't adapting, the corruption mixed with totalitarian government strangles any individuals chance to do something for themselves.
Everyone just keeps being forced into the group, and anyone that doesn't play ball can get their throat slit at the drop of a hat.
In a region where people have precious few rights and no real economic future, it is cartoons and movies that move them towards protest.
These people are being deprived a future, and they are being told (and gladly believe) that the biggest problem in their lives is not the lack of wealth, chances or rights, but the fact that some Jews are sitting on a piece of land without oil, and some people in lands so far away they couldn't even afford to ever see it, is drawing cartoons or making movies.
Selfishness, that is what these people need. A little more focus on self-interest, a little less on the "greater good."
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On September 15 2012 04:05 zalz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2012 03:40 fluidin wrote:
^ I think it's a in a fit of anger thing. They aren't thinking so much, or perhaps aren't even thinking at all. Well, that much is obvious. I just think it shows the insanity of this group thinking. It is like a starving man throwing away food. Suddenly, everything and everyone belongs to these groups. Destroying a KFC suddenly becomes a revolutionairy act, because, surely, KFC is America, right? What is the reality? Several people in the area will not be going back to work next week. They are going to have to be hooked up to the wellfare-IV of oil money. The truth is that these collectivist movements aren't the result of poverty, they are a large cause of it. They throw away everything, just to be part of the group. And you know what is worst? They throw away other people's possessions and rights. All for the greater good, be it some political movement or in this case a religious system that begs to be defended. People are going to be out of work, and no amount of prayer is going to feed their stomachs. The cold hard truth is that several years down the road, this region is going to have no purpose. It doesn't have a highly educated population, its governments aren't adapting, the corruption mixed with totalitarian government strangles any individuals chance to do something for themselves. Everyone just keeps being forced into the group, and anyone that doesn't play ball can get their throat slit at the drop of a hat. In a region where people have precious few rights and no real economic future, it is cartoons and movies that move them towards protest. These people are being deprived a future, and they are being told (and gladly believe) that the biggest problem in their lives is not the lack of wealth, chances or rights, but the fact that some Jews are sitting on a piece of land without oil, and some people in lands so far away they couldn't even afford to ever see it, is drawing cartoons or making movies. Selfishness, that is what these people need. A little more focus on self-interest, a little less on the "greater good."
Well said. Well said.
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On September 15 2012 03:35 zalz wrote:
The image of these people ransacking KFC's and other stores is truly amazing.
What on earth, you must wonder, makes these people who are poor enough as it is, turn on stores and other places of employment? They have little enough as it is, but in their rage and collectivist insanity, they need to destroy more.
Dunno, I remember methodically destroying a phone booth with my friend for a good hour, probably 19 at the time. We were wasted but Id imagine being a part of a herd can net worse results. Islam itself isnt directly responsible for the amount of cattle, Russia is a good example.
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On September 15 2012 02:41 frontliner2 wrote:
If I was Obama I would seriously recall all ambassadors and staff in every country where this happened and security was insufficient. I would also cut all ties.
Goodbye, you have lost all support fools!
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new headline on aljazeera:
"Protesters angered by anti-Islam video storm UN peacekeepers' camp in Egypt's Sinai. More soon...
Aside from the more obvious reasons it would be an overreaction, does it really make sense to dismantle the centerpieces of one's foreign intelligence network in countries rife with violent anti-American extremism? I mean, what's the follow-up, invade everywhere and declare a new American Empire?
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On September 15 2012 04:05 zalz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2012 03:40 fluidin wrote:
^ I think it's a in a fit of anger thing. They aren't thinking so much, or perhaps aren't even thinking at all. Well, that much is obvious. I just think it shows the insanity of this group thinking. It is like a starving man throwing away food. Suddenly, everything and everyone belongs to these groups. Destroying a KFC suddenly becomes a revolutionairy act, because, surely, KFC is America, right? What is the reality? Several people in the area will not be going back to work next week. They are going to have to be hooked up to the wellfare-IV of oil money. The truth is that these collectivist movements aren't the result of poverty, they are a large cause of it. They throw away everything, just to be part of the group. And you know what is worst? They throw away other people's possessions and rights. All for the greater good, be it some political movement or in this case a religious system that begs to be defended. People are going to be out of work, and no amount of prayer is going to feed their stomachs. The cold hard truth is that several years down the road, this region is going to have no purpose. It doesn't have a highly educated population, its governments aren't adapting, the corruption mixed with totalitarian government strangles any individuals chance to do something for themselves. Everyone just keeps being forced into the group, and anyone that doesn't play ball can get their throat slit at the drop of a hat. In a region where people have precious few rights and no real economic future, it is cartoons and movies that move them towards protest. These people are being deprived a future, and they are being told (and gladly believe) that the biggest problem in their lives is not the lack of wealth, chances or rights, but the fact that some Jews are sitting on a piece of land without oil, and some people in lands so far away they couldn't even afford to ever see it, is drawing cartoons or making movies. Selfishness, that is what these people need. A little more focus on self-interest, a little less on the "greater good."
I think the region could use a little less selfishness. Less of this "let me go murder some innocent people to advance my agenda and my after-life interests". Maybe a little less hoarding of the oil wealth by royalty, dictators, and elites (as well as their corporate and governmental sponsors in America) and a little more building up of infrastructure, education and social services for the general population. I think if the secular democracies had been allowed to do that, rather than being overthrown (thanks in no small part to the self interested machinations of foreign powers) then Islamic extremism wouldn't be nearly the problem it is now.
Also, your comment about them conflating a KFC with America... I for one, am glad they didn't all try to attack America directly.
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On September 15 2012 05:03 ecstatica wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2012 03:35 zalz wrote:
The image of these people ransacking KFC's and other stores is truly amazing.
What on earth, you must wonder, makes these people who are poor enough as it is, turn on stores and other places of employment? They have little enough as it is, but in their rage and collectivist insanity, they need to destroy more. Dunno, I remember methodically destroying a phone booth with my friend for a good hour, probably 19 at the time. We were wasted but Id imagine being a part of a herd can net worse results. Islam itself isnt directly responsible for the amount of cattle, Russia is a good example.
I don't see how Islam isn't responsible for people feeling like they are in a group. How else would so many come up and protest? Aren't they chanting about how they are defending their faith?
Not their literal faith, not defending their books from being stolen by a government, but defending in an abstract sense.
Islam certainly isn't the only belief system that forces people to think in terms of groups rather than individuals. There are plenty of political movements that can be even more group-minded.
Islam actually does have an element of individualism, but it has become unpopular. It rests in the way people are expected to read the quran. There are two major schools of thought, one argues that you should listen to an expert (imam) because he has spend the most time reading the quran, so he understands it best. The other school of thought argues that each individual should read the quran for himself, so you don't risk listening to a flawed imam.
The later school of thought hasn't been very popular of late. It is no surprise that suffi muslims, the one's that focus on the more spiritual aspect of Islam, and interpret the quran more loosely, are prime target for violence by both of the largest sects of Islam (Sunni/Shia).
The more individualist denominations have been getting stomped out for a good long time now. I don't think you can split Islam from the collectivists ideas that are inherent in it.
For example, one of the central ideas is the Ummah, the community of believers. There is a very powerful element of group > individual, and invasive collective thinking.
Perhaps the best examples of collectivism in Islam come from simply observing. Muslims are encouraged to call one another, in an almost Orwellian sense, brother and sister. Strangers, raised with the command to treat complete strangers as brothers and sisters.
Might sound nice, but from this sense of kinship comes the legitimacy to agressively dictate behaviour. Surely, I can't tell a random girl in a bar how to behave, but she is my sister in spirit, so surely I have an obligation to tell her how to behave!
Collectivism in action can simply be observed during the ramadan. A classmate of mine isn't exactly religious, but he adhered to the ramadan, simply because he knew that if he were to eat, he was going to get adressed on it, even by complete strangers. That is in Holland btw.
So, collectivism is a part of Islam, and it certainly isn't a perversion of any kind. In all honesty, I don't blame the religion for it. Considering the time in which it came about, collectivism was the only way to survive in the world. But we aren't living in 600 Arabia, there are more effective ways of organizing society, and a heavy emphasis on individuality is one of those.
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The Muslim world needs an enlightenment and to set up anger management centers...
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On September 15 2012 06:35 Zahir wrote:
I think the region could use a little less selfishness. Less of this "let me go murder some innocent people to advance my agenda and my after-life interests".
These people aren't killing in some machiavellian-scheme for power. They are more than willing to murder for the abstract notion of "defending the faith." They no doubt feel like they are fighting for their billion fellow believers.
Maybe a little less hoarding of the oil wealth by royalty, dictators, and elites (as well as their corporate and governmental sponsors in America) and a little more building up of infrastructure, education and social services for the general population.
I don't think there are all that many people that would argue that the oil flowing up towards a thieving upper class is a good status quo.
I think if the secular democracies had been allowed to do that, rather than being overthrown (thanks in no small part to the self interested machinations of foreign powers) then Islamic extremism wouldn't be nearly the problem it is now.
Secular democracies? The middle-east never had any of those.
Sure, Iran had a democracy and the US overthrew it, but I never understand what the point behind that is. Oke, so the US overthrew the democracy, so now Iran has to be a totalitarian theocratic state as some sort of punishment towards the US?
The people in Iran are human beings. Why are they not entitled to freedom? Why don't they deserve democracy? Why aren't they entitled to human rights?
Yes, the US fucked up on that account, so what? It seems odd to think that gives legitimacy to the Iranian government.
We aren't playing a giant game of risk. What the US did was wrong because it toppled a democratic regime. The reaction to that isn't to put a theocratic regime in power.
But sooner or later people have to recognize that time moves on. If you let history dictate today's policy, the US is entirely justified in destroying the muslim world, because technically they started it by capturing US ships in the founding years. Using history as foundation for grievances means endless strife and hatred.
Give me a history book and I can find you a valid reason to kill anyone. History is just that, history.
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just realised this film was made by someone who claims to be an israeli which now really just makes it a case of who is a bigger asshole.
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On September 15 2012 00:55 radscorpion9 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2012 22:02 Souma wrote:For anyone who cares, I found an enlightening article on why these events occur. A couple excerpts: Americans and Europeans are no doubt looking at the protests over the "film", recalling the even more violent protests during the Danish cartoon affair, and shaking their heads one more at the seeming irrationality and backwardness of Muslims, who would let a work of "art", particularly one as trivial as this, drive them to mass protests and violence. Yet Muslims in Egypt, Libya and around the world equally look at American actions, from sanctions against and then an invasion of Iraq that killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and sent the country back to the Stone Age, to unflinching support for Israel and all the Arab authoritarian regimes (secular and royal alike) and drone strikes that always seem to kill unintended civilians "by mistake", and wonder with equal bewilderment how "we" can be so barbaric and uncivilised. Russia receives little better grades on this card, whether for its brutality in Afghanistan during the Soviet era, in Chechnya today, or its open support of Assad's murderous regime. Meanwhile, the most jingoistic and hate-filled representatives of each society grow stronger with each attack, with little end in sight. ... As I flew home yesterday from Europe, unaware of what had transpired in Libya, I read through the 2008 report by the Cairo Institute for Human Rights Studies, titled "From Exporting Terrorism to Exporting Oppression: Human Rights in the Arab Region". The report described the often unbearable levels of abuse suffered by citizens across the region is one of the most depressing reads imaginable. Every single government, from Morocco to Iraq, was defined by the systematic abuse of its citizens, denial of their most basic rights, and rampant corruption and violence. And in every case, such abuses and violence have been enabled by Western, Russian and other foreign interests. Simply put, each and all the policies and actions described in the report - and 2008 was no better or worse than the years that proceeded or followed it - are as much forms of terror as the destruction of the World Trade Centre, invasion of Iraq, or attack on the US Consulate in Benghazi. In fact, the Middle East and North Africa have for over half a century constituted one of the largest and most pernicious terror systems of the modern era. And the US, Europe, Russia, and now increasingly China have been accessories, co-conspirators, and often initiators of this terror throughout the period, working hand-in-hand with local governments to repress their peoples and ensure that wealth and power remain arrogated by a trusted few. http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/09/201291391347458863.htmlAnd when you actually research this stuff more deeply, it only gets more and more depressing. I read most of the article, but I think there are a few important points that the author isn't really mentioning. After researching US activities in the middle-east there are certainly many scholars that would say the protesters have reasons to be angry, notably the support the US has had in the past for various regimes. I would think one of the first questions would be, how many people in these middle-eastern countries are even aware of US backing of some of these regimes? Is there polling data to support this claim? And to the extent that they are aware, how much anti-American sentiment is actually there as a result? That is, is it enough that they would attack embassies (not talking about Libya) as a result of viewing a single bad movie about something that's basically unrelated (criticizing their religion)? It just seems like a stretch. It makes a lot more logical sense to say that a movie which harshly criticizes Islam will generate a response from people who have very specific types of pro-Islamic views (I won't debate interpretations of the Koran, that is another matter). Also he seems to take certain US actions as being definitively negative, and assumes that the protesters all share his view. For one thing he mentions the US sanctions on Iraq. But those sanctions were placed on Iraq for invading Kuwait...in theory Iraqis should have been angry that their leader, Saddam Hussein, didn't capitulate and let his own citizens starve to death because of his desire for conquest and control. Secondly it wasn't just the US it was the entire UN security council. But I guess we should assume for the sake of argument that the US has done 100x worse than other countries in other areas. Also about drone strikes, I'm sure people probably would be angry. But for those who aren't immediately related to the people who died as a result of collateral damage, do you think that they view these drone strikes as being say a hundred times more negative than the messy, but positive result of deposing their country of an evil dictator who committed his own crimes against humanity and giving them a chance at democracy? Maybe those people see drone strikes as a necessary evil, and the majority are thankful that the US did free them from Saddam Hussein's rule (or the threat of the taliban in Afghanistan). I guess all I'm saying is you don't really know, at least as far as this article is concerned. We know from this thread that there are sympathetic rallies for America in the streets that have been rising up; so clearly that anti-American sentiment isn't universal or they probably wouldn't care. Or maybe it still is, but its not as bad as the author makes it out to be and what they're primarily responding to is a particular branch of extremist Islamists, in which case these violent protests truly were about religion (again ignoring Libya). Until we see some more precise polls or research on this topic, that article doesn't really add anything meaningful. To summarize, I read it as pretty much one author's personal beliefs or views of righteous anti-American anger that he generalizes upon populations in the middle east without any solid evidence to back it up, in the face of sympathetic protests that show a respectful attitude towards Americans that shun the behaviour of other protesters. But I'm sure you're one of those people who are walking encyclopedias so I would enjoy hearing what you have to say 
I have no evidence but I am quite sure most of the Muslim population know what the U.S. has done considering how much propaganda is spread through their channels (this we know).
The thing is, everything that article addressed, it addressed it in general terms. We were the first ones to draw the blood of innocents in the Middle East after WW2. In mid-20th century Iran, we instigated a coup and propped up a dictator with military and monetary aid and enabled him to slaughter his citizens and kept them repressed for decades. In 1988 we shot down a commercial airplane that was flying over Iranian territorial waters, killing close to 300 civilians.
In Egypt and Yemen, we did the same - we propped up dictators that repressed their populace and brutally murdered them left and right (a colonial era mentality to create stable regimes that would support us as opposed to the Soviets during the Cold War). And now in Yemen we're killing civilian after civilian with drone strikes (and if you don't think this affects the entire country, you are quite wrong. Look how much hatred the killing of four U.S. innocents has incited). Libya is a rarer case from the Middle East, as although our relations have been strained in the past, there has never been much bloodshed or oppression enabled by the U.S (only retaliation really). In fact, a lot of Libyans are grateful towards us for helping them with the Arab Spring (as seen in the pro-American rallies), but a small group of extremists are sympathetic towards terrorists.
Iraq and Afghanistan are more recent cases that most people know. What most people don't know about Iraq is how the U.S., with the consent of Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, sold them chemical/biological weapons such as anthrax and botulism to acquire a political edge over Saddam Hussein and allowed them to use said weapons to fight the Iranians (no wonder Iran hates us so much). In Afghanistan we propped up the Taliban with military and monetary support only to cut ties with them when we felt they were too dangerous and ended up incurring their wrath instead. And then we walk back into Afghanistan trying to undo what we did, which resulted in the giant mess we see today.
The list goes on and on (let's not forget this hatred began because we decided to support an Israeli takeover of Palestine). The point I am trying to make here is that people are delusional if they believe this hatred is stemming from a single depiction of Muhammad - no, that is just the spark. For every four innocents Muslims have killed, the U.S. has murdered hundreds more, and for all of the crap we have perpetrated in the Middle East, what they should be doing is not protesting; they should declare war on the entire United States and bomb the shit out of our country. But, of course, that would be foolish, so they resort to terrorist attacks and violent gatherings like these. Has anyone ever stopped to think what it'd feel like if some foreign nation came into the United States, deposed our President/Congress, installed a tyrannical dictator, and enabled them to slaughter us? I imagine the Boston Tea Party would have looked just like that - a tea party, compared to what would happen in this case. If you really lack a shred of empathy, just consider this - Americans, civilians and soldiers alike, DIED to protect this evil.
The truth is, most Americans don't care about Middle Easterners/North Africans. They see them as less than human, and that is why when they read that hundreds or thousands of innocents died by our hands, they just shrug it off, as opposed to when four Americans are killed, they fume with rage. Unfortunately, the Muslim world does not shrug it off. They see in us a much more barbaric nature than we've ever seen in them. It does not matter what excuses we give them as we have stained our hands with too many innocent lives, destroyed the homes of too many children, and ruined the legacy of one of the longest-surviving empires who was unfortunate enough to be stuck between the West and Russia.
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Some noteworthy articles, links, and pictures.
Sudan: Muslims set fire to German embassy
http://news.yahoo.com/sudan-protesters-storm-german-embassy-raise-islamic-flag-124438100.html
Political prisoner: Muhammad video maker could be sent to jail
"Film maker behind anti-Muslim video 'could be sent back to jail,'" by Nick Allen in the Telegraph, September 14
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9544253/Film-maker-behind-anti-Muslim-video-could-be-sent-back-to-jail.html
Tunisia: Three dead, 28 wounded as Muslims attack U.S. embassy
The count of the dead and wounded comes from this Reuters/DPA report. "Tunisia U.S. Embassy Attack: Protesters Target U.S. Compound In Tunis," from Reuters, September 14
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/14/tunisia-us-embassy-attack_n_1884068.html
http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/western-embassies-stormed-in-sudan-tunisia-as-anti-u-s-protests-spread-1.465059
Muslim Brotherhood praises protests in Arabic, expresses relief that U.S. embassy staff unharmed in English
http://www.newser.com/story/154036/us-embassy-zings-egypt-via-twitter.html
Kuwait: Muslims demonstrate at U.S. embassy, chant "Obama, we are all Osama," demand respect and expulsion of U.S. ambassador
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jufKldS27pVrngld9YcMlHNbU51g?docId=CNG.a48a796e0f9e6041141d001af68f2f5e.701
"Listen, listen Obama, we are all Osama" -- Lebanon: One killed as Muslims march from mosque, stone police, set fire to KFC
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Politics/2012/Sep-14/187902-15-lebanese-policemen-injured-in-protest-over-anti-islam-film.ashx#axzz26RawogeQ
![[image loading]](http://www.jihadwatch.org/images/PakistanProtest2.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://www.jihadwatch.org/images/IranProtests.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://www.jihadwatch.org/images/IndonesiaProtests.jpg)
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On September 15 2012 07:41 Bahamut1337 wrote:Some noteworthy articles, links, and pictures. Sudan: Muslims set fire to German embassyhttp://news.yahoo.com/sudan-protesters-storm-german-embassy-raise-islamic-flag-124438100.htmlPolitical prisoner: Muhammad video maker could be sent to jail"Film maker behind anti-Muslim video 'could be sent back to jail,'" by Nick Allen in the Telegraph, September 14 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9544253/Film-maker-behind-anti-Muslim-video-could-be-sent-back-to-jail.htmlTunisia: Three dead, 28 wounded as Muslims attack U.S. embassyThe count of the dead and wounded comes from this Reuters/DPA report. "Tunisia U.S. Embassy Attack: Protesters Target U.S. Compound In Tunis," from Reuters, September 14 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/14/tunisia-us-embassy-attack_n_1884068.htmlhttp://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/western-embassies-stormed-in-sudan-tunisia-as-anti-u-s-protests-spread-1.465059
Muslim Brotherhood praises protests in Arabic, expresses relief that U.S. embassy staff unharmed in Englishhttp://www.newser.com/story/154036/us-embassy-zings-egypt-via-twitter.html
Kuwait: Muslims demonstrate at U.S. embassy, chant "Obama, we are all Osama," demand respect and expulsion of U.S. ambassadorhttp://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jufKldS27pVrngld9YcMlHNbU51g?docId=CNG.a48a796e0f9e6041141d001af68f2f5e.701"Listen, listen Obama, we are all Osama" -- Lebanon: One killed as Muslims march from mosque, stone police, set fire to KFChttp://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Politics/2012/Sep-14/187902-15-lebanese-policemen-injured-in-protest-over-anti-islam-film.ashx#axzz26RawogeQ
ah you are back...
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On September 15 2012 07:54 ImFromPortugal wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2012 07:41 Bahamut1337 wrote:Some noteworthy articles, links, and pictures. Sudan: Muslims set fire to German embassyhttp://news.yahoo.com/sudan-protesters-storm-german-embassy-raise-islamic-flag-124438100.htmlPolitical prisoner: Muhammad video maker could be sent to jail"Film maker behind anti-Muslim video 'could be sent back to jail,'" by Nick Allen in the Telegraph, September 14 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9544253/Film-maker-behind-anti-Muslim-video-could-be-sent-back-to-jail.htmlTunisia: Three dead, 28 wounded as Muslims attack U.S. embassyThe count of the dead and wounded comes from this Reuters/DPA report. "Tunisia U.S. Embassy Attack: Protesters Target U.S. Compound In Tunis," from Reuters, September 14 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/14/tunisia-us-embassy-attack_n_1884068.htmlhttp://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/western-embassies-stormed-in-sudan-tunisia-as-anti-u-s-protests-spread-1.465059
Muslim Brotherhood praises protests in Arabic, expresses relief that U.S. embassy staff unharmed in Englishhttp://www.newser.com/story/154036/us-embassy-zings-egypt-via-twitter.html
Kuwait: Muslims demonstrate at U.S. embassy, chant "Obama, we are all Osama," demand respect and expulsion of U.S. ambassadorhttp://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jufKldS27pVrngld9YcMlHNbU51g?docId=CNG.a48a796e0f9e6041141d001af68f2f5e.701"Listen, listen Obama, we are all Osama" -- Lebanon: One killed as Muslims march from mosque, stone police, set fire to KFChttp://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Politics/2012/Sep-14/187902-15-lebanese-policemen-injured-in-protest-over-anti-islam-film.ashx#axzz26RawogeQ ah you are back...
Seems you give more input then usual, thanks for your outstanding contribution.
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On September 15 2012 07:59 Bahamut1337 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2012 07:54 ImFromPortugal wrote:On September 15 2012 07:41 Bahamut1337 wrote:Some noteworthy articles, links, and pictures. Sudan: Muslims set fire to German embassyhttp://news.yahoo.com/sudan-protesters-storm-german-embassy-raise-islamic-flag-124438100.htmlPolitical prisoner: Muhammad video maker could be sent to jail"Film maker behind anti-Muslim video 'could be sent back to jail,'" by Nick Allen in the Telegraph, September 14 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9544253/Film-maker-behind-anti-Muslim-video-could-be-sent-back-to-jail.htmlTunisia: Three dead, 28 wounded as Muslims attack U.S. embassyThe count of the dead and wounded comes from this Reuters/DPA report. "Tunisia U.S. Embassy Attack: Protesters Target U.S. Compound In Tunis," from Reuters, September 14 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/14/tunisia-us-embassy-attack_n_1884068.htmlhttp://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/western-embassies-stormed-in-sudan-tunisia-as-anti-u-s-protests-spread-1.465059
Muslim Brotherhood praises protests in Arabic, expresses relief that U.S. embassy staff unharmed in Englishhttp://www.newser.com/story/154036/us-embassy-zings-egypt-via-twitter.html
Kuwait: Muslims demonstrate at U.S. embassy, chant "Obama, we are all Osama," demand respect and expulsion of U.S. ambassadorhttp://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jufKldS27pVrngld9YcMlHNbU51g?docId=CNG.a48a796e0f9e6041141d001af68f2f5e.701"Listen, listen Obama, we are all Osama" -- Lebanon: One killed as Muslims march from mosque, stone police, set fire to KFChttp://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Politics/2012/Sep-14/187902-15-lebanese-policemen-injured-in-protest-over-anti-islam-film.ashx#axzz26RawogeQ ah you are back... Seems you give more input then usual, thanks for your outstanding contribution.
No problem bro, want me to add those into the OP ?
MARINES TO SUDAN: A team of US Marines going to Khartoum to defend US posts, military source tells CNN. Sim. to teams going to Libya, Yemen.
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Islam keeps on getting a bad name over and over again. Not only is this violence deplorable, it's a complete slap in the face to the peaceful Muslims as well.
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