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On August 10 2012 00:01 stevarius wrote:


The real moral wrongdoing is the shitty idea that the person only owns the "license" to the software that can only be used as the company tells you to. Every time some company decides they want to shove DRM or some other fucked up feature down the consumers throats to force their paying users to operate and access software in only the manner the company approves of, another pirate is born.

There is nothing moral about pissing off your consumers with this kind of shit. Even worse is the assholes who actually believe the above quoted statement and this whole moral high road bullshit that is sympathetic with companies putting out fucked up products. Trying to regulate sharing of content over the internet is so fucking impractical that it's stupid.

On August 08 2012 16:22 R3DT1D3 wrote:
There's a difference between pirating because you have no other realistic means and pirating because you don't want to pay. The problem is that there's no way to distinguish would be customers and people who just want to have their cake and eat it too.

And yes, companies do have the legal right to sell you content and tell you what to do with it, that's why you don't own software, you own an individual license to utilize to software. To claim you haven't done any moral wrongdoing is simply deluding yourself.

On August 08 2012 07:10 TheRabidDeer wrote:
I am confused why people still pirate so much.
Music is cheap/free through itunes/spotify/pandora/other sources
Most movies and TV shows are cheap/free from netflix/hulu (admittedly, I do pirate some TV shows, like top gear)
Games are sometimes cheap on steam/amazon/origin

Why not just pay or get it from free legitimate sources?

On August 10 2012 00:01 stevarius wrote:


The real moral wrongdoing is the shitty idea that the person only owns the "license" to the software that can only be used as the company tells you to. Every time some company decides they want to shove DRM or some other fucked up feature down the consumers throats to force their paying users to operate and access software in only the manner the company approves of, another pirate is born.

There is nothing moral about pissing off your consumers with this kind of shit. Even worse is the assholes who actually believe the above quoted statement and this whole moral high road bullshit that is sympathetic with companies putting out fucked up products. Trying to regulate sharing of content over the internet is so fucking impractical that it's stupid.

On August 10 2012 01:00 amazingxkcd wrote:



DRM

On August 10 2012 04:09 FabledIntegral wrote:


There's nothing immoral about setting terms and conditions. They aren't forcing you to do shit. They're saying "here's a service, you can use it for X, and it costs $60 to use it indefinitely."

If you don't like the terms, don't buy it. It's that simple. But thanks for calling me an asshole because I like the idea of a business being able to control their product. Until the product becomes a necessity, it will just be another form of personal entertainment.



The amount of people that bitch about DRM is mindblowing. It typically is a minor inconvenience. If DRM is the true cause of the reason of pirates, there should be no reason you don't buy the product from the producer and then torrent it yourself in the meantime.

On August 09 2012 05:14 Zahir wrote:


Or he can be a worthless douche and pirate anything and everything and make it a point to never support companies or artists financially in any way.

On August 10 2012 04:41 Kevan wrote:
I am very much for piracy. It is not stealing and it will never go away no matter how hard you try. If you offer a product that is worth purchasing instead of pirating then most people will purchase it. That is the best way to "fight" piracy in my opinion, to give the buyer more than the pirate.

On August 10 2012 04:47 Fallians wrote:


Not everyone can afford to support the companies they love........... I fall into that ''worthless douche '' category because neither me or my family have enough money to buy all the music we listen to or the movies we watch or the games I play. The last game I bought was starcraft and the only reason I did that was because of online. I pirate everything and anything, 8gb's of music all pirated simply because I can't afford to buy it. Your statement is ignorant and completely dependent on the individual.

On August 10 2012 04:41 Kevan wrote:
I am very much for piracy. It is not stealing and it will never go away no matter how hard you try. If you offer a product that is worth purchasing instead of pirating then most people will purchase it. That is the best way to "fight" piracy in my opinion, to give the buyer more than the pirate.

On August 09 2012 14:15 yeint wrote:


They can price their product at whatever price they want.

And if I can make 100% perfect copies of their product for no financial gain, I can do that too.

If they don't like that situation, they can go produce something non-copyable, like sweaters or tennis balls.

Piracy is sharing, not stealing. If I buy a book for $10, and then tell my friend what happened in the book, I've shared someone's copyrighted story.

If you don't like that situation, don't be in the story-selling business.

You don't have the right to sell me content and tell me what I can do with it. You only have the right to prohibit me selling or profiting from unauthorized copies, because that is commerce and commerce is and always has been legally regulated.

Legally regulating sharing is ridiculous.

By the way, I support going after MegaUpload. Kim Dotcom was knowingly making obscene profits off of unauthorized distribution of content, slapping ads on them.

But if I take a random CD from my collection, rip it to MP3s and make a torrent, that's completely non-commercial sharing and no one has any moral claim to any wrongdoing.