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Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
August 11 2012 20:59 GMT
#361
Another blow to free music T.T. But hey i still have kickasstorrent hehe
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Warlock40
Profile Joined September 2011
601 Posts
August 11 2012 21:17 GMT
#362
On August 12 2012 05:56 Zocat wrote:


How much is amazon taking for just shipping around a product?
And how much is no longer okay for such a service?

Edit: not only limited to music


Amazon shipping is very, very good. These are the rates:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_468520_continental?nodeId=468636

And for 80 USD, you get an Amazon Prime membership, which offers free 2 day shipping on just about everything sold by Amazon.

As for amazon.de:

http://www.amazon.de/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_ln_muev/?nodeId=504938
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 21:44:34
August 11 2012 21:43 GMT
#363
On August 12 2012 05:56 Zocat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 03:37 Djzapz wrote:
On August 12 2012 03:27 Zocat wrote:
On August 12 2012 03:00 Djzapz wrote:
On August 12 2012 02:14 Alpino wrote:
I'll explain why this is bullcrap in my experience as a recording musician, record collector and owner of a review/download blog(I post only underground Black Metal so none of my files ever gets take down) with 230,000 pageviews and 10,000 pageviews/month.

New artists in this new age have in file sharing their best chance of getting known and listened. Almost all CDs/Vynils I have bought I had already downloaded. Liking those cds I downloaded and reading interviews, etc, basically content from the bands I liked made me want to support those bands by buying their stuff whenever I felt this band deserved it and I had the money. Had I never downloaded those bands I wouldn't have spent my money and my time on them(writing about them). This is bad for the artists and good for the big recording companies who own the more well known pop artists. The internet makes people aware of other kinds of music and this is not good for the big recording companies.

File sharing made my band more known than it would have been without it, made our art more valid because it was listened by more people and made it better because we had more influences and where to draw from. This is bullcrap sometimes hosting sites delete stuff without even contacting bands to know if they actually want to share(normally they want.)

If I didn't download stuff I wouldn't buy stuff, well actually now I'd only buy from a band who supports free-sharing of their songs...I get a lot of thank-you from bands when I post their albums in my blog. FREE-SHARING HELPS ART.

I agree with that at least for the most part. Free sharing helps the artists that need help and deserve recognition and remuneration for their work and talents.

It's detrimental to huge production and publishing companies, the "middlemen" that are a hog on the whole market. Those need to go away, or at least they shouldn't be necessary for an artist's success. They used to be important, now they artificially increase the price of art and benefit some suits that have made millions of dollars off of other people's work.

Torrents can be used for theft, but they can also be used for legitimate sharing. There are a lot of games and songs that I wouldn't own today if torrents didn't exist. Plus, I still would own the more well-known music that I like anyway.


Interested about the middle paragraph. The same can be said about companies like amazon. Should vendors like amazon go away as well?

The same cannot be said for Amazon at all, they're the perfect minimalist middle man for sales. You can be sure they don't take the same massive cut producers and publishers take. We still need those platforms because they're reasonably prices and like torrents, they give a platform for the artists to be heard and discovered. I never said that we should abolish everything that stands between customers and artists. Artists should always be allowed to decide how to market themselves, but luckily because of the Internet, things are getting better.


How much is amazon taking for just shipping around a product?
And how much is no longer okay for such a service?

Edit: not only limited to music

That's besides the point, Amazon is a choice, it can easily be avoided, there are other distributors. Some artists sell their stuff directly through their website and they make good money.

The problem is that until recently, publishers and producers were absolutely mandatory and there was no getting around them. If you weren't signed and willing to give away a massive portion of your income to suits, then you were just not going to make money off of your produce. It made sense back then, it makes sense now for some people, but overall what I'm saying is that we should in fact give grief to those corporate dicks who want to keep their hands on a market that's slipping away from them because they're no longer needed.

On August 12 2012 06:17 Warlock40 wrote:
Amazon shipping is very, very good. These are the rates:

He means what cut does Amazon take from the seller of a digital song or album.
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Manimal_pro
Profile Joined June 2010
Romania991 Posts
August 11 2012 23:07 GMT
#364
torrent sites need to be left alone, come on
If you like brood war, please go play brood war and stop whining about SC2
NUCLEARFACILITY
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia25 Posts
August 18 2012 01:33 GMT
#365
ah fuck, demonoid was the best site to test out music production software. The suits are annoying.
Spiffeh
Profile Joined May 2010
United States830 Posts
August 18 2012 01:39 GMT
#366
not cool, not cool
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