Maybe decades down the line when we have a game that manages to last a lifetime, but right now it's a total joke to even consider.
Starcraft II Considered For Future Olympics - Page 12
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
Maybe decades down the line when we have a game that manages to last a lifetime, but right now it's a total joke to even consider. | ||
MountainDewJunkie
United States10340 Posts
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frogrubdown
1266 Posts
Consider some athletic sport analogies. I'd say the introduction of the DH in American League baseball is comparable in magnitude to introducing new units and it completely altered the required skill sets for a number of players. Adjustments over time to the strike zone, height of the pitcher's mound, and ball composition are similarly comparable to stat alterations. You could of course make similar comparisons in other sports such as with the constant rule-changing in the NBA and NFL and their respective introductions of such game-changers the 3-point line and the 2-point conversion. The strongest counter-claim, it seems to me, is that SC2 players more or less have to completely relearn the new game, and as the current BW pro transition is showing, it can take them quite some time to adapt. This is certainly a compelling difference, but there are a few challenges to it. First, this is nearly as true of the expansions as it is of the sequels, but everyone here seems fine labeling them the same sport. Second, there are limited comparisons even to this type of change in athletic sports. For instance, baseball's outlawing of the spitball ended the careers of many who thrived off of it (though most of these were grandfathered) and the DH rule can make certain inept fielders more or less completely incapable of succeeding in the National League. In short, there might not be anything completely revolutionary in thinking of the chain of SCs as a single, continuous sport undergoing gradual changes but surviving through them, and perhaps we should adjust to thinking this way. | ||
Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On August 03 2012 12:03 Vindicare605 wrote: This is a poorly worded question. In what way is shooting or equestrian sports physical activity? Sure it requires training and practice to become a truly skilled contestant but so do e-sports. By your wording of said question a huge number of events could be invalidated because they arent physical enough. This has been argued in previous threads. Things like equestrian and shooting are 90% physical skill, whereas an esport is 90% mental skill. Who's to say that SC3 ought to be considered a different sport from SC2? Since the SC2 expansions will clearly be out before 2020, the people in this thread appear to be fine with calling them same sport as SC2 itself, so is it completely obviously the case that the differences in SC3 will make it a different sport? Consider some athletic sport analogies. I'd say the introduction of the DH in American League baseball is comparable in magnitude to introducing new units and it completely altered the required skill sets for a number of players. Adjustments over time to the strike zone, height of the pitcher's mound, and ball composition are similarly comparable to stat alterations. You could of course make similar comparisons in other sports such as with the constant rule-changing in the NBA and NFL and their respective introductions of such game-changers the 3-point line and the 2-point conversion. The strongest counter-claim, it seems to me, is that SC2 players more or less have to completely relearn the new game, and as the current BW pro transition is showing, it can take them quite some time to adapt. This is certainly a compelling difference, but there are a few challenges to it. First, this is nearly as true of the expansions as it is of the sequels, but everyone here seems fine labeling them the same sport. Second, there are limited comparisons even to this type of change in athletic sports. For instance, baseball's outlawing of the spitball ended the careers of many who thrived off of it (though most of these were grandfathered) and the DH rule can make certain inept fielders more or less completely incapable of succeeding in the National League. In short, there might not be anything completely revolutionary in thinking of the chain of SCs as a single, continuous sport undergoing gradual changes but surviving through them, and perhaps we should adjust to thinking this way. This would be like arguing that BW and WoL are the same game. We'll skip the arguments and just get to the conclusion; they aren't. | ||
althaz
Australia1001 Posts
It's great to watch (does anybody watch LoL that doesn't play it?) and has proven longevity (Broodwar was played for 14 years). | ||
MasterKang
United States1373 Posts
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FeUerFlieGe
United States1193 Posts
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MasterKang
United States1373 Posts
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Master of DalK
Canada1797 Posts
Even if SC3 comes out shortly after SC2 being in the Olympics, it wouldn't matter because people would have been intrigued enough by watching SC2 to do some sort of research or atleast acknowledge it as a real event that requires training and practise just as any other sport does. All in all, StarCraft probably should get in. It is going to happen sometime or another, why not now? | ||
Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
I will come back and apologize if any of these games actually becomes olympic, which luckily for me won´t happen. | ||
ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
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EnergizerBunny
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
The world is probably not ready for watching a video game as a true 'sport' but I am. And I'm willing to bet he will be real one day. Perhaps after 2020, who know. But limiting Olympics and sport to " physical effort" is very close minded in my opinion. | ||
Livelovedie
United States492 Posts
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Vul
United States685 Posts
But if archery is in the Olympics, it doesn't seem so out of the question http://espn.go.com/olympics/summer/2012/archery/story/_/id/8204730/summer-olympics-2012-legally-blind-south-korean-archer-im-dong-hyun-sets-world-marks | ||
Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
On August 03 2012 07:32 StateofReverie wrote: handicap olympics (olympics ez mode) #1 lol #2 tic tac toe #3 wow rofled hard Maybe once we've been on the same balance patch for at least a decade. Rule changes exist in olympic sports, but they're few and far between. | ||
AirbladeOrange
United States2571 Posts
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cresse
United States59 Posts
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ArnaudF
France993 Posts
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
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