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On August 03 2012 11:13 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 11:09 endy wrote:
Where is the "none of them" option ?
e-sports are not sports. Hence the different name. Neither is motorboating, town planning or pistol dueling. the point is that the olympics have set a precedent for unusual sports in the olympic games. Esports is no more unusual than any of the other floaters the difference is that there is a huge following behind it and it has legitimate competition involved with it as well.
I repeat, traditional sport transcend generations, electronic sports are just fads that comes and go.
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Oh for the sake of fudge, could you remove the stupidly placed apostrophe in the flipping poll, I just read it as " wouldn't you want" because of your wan't as if this is a poll for most undeserving and voted LoL as a result. >_< What exactly do people think want is short for, putting apostrophes in there?
*Mumble mumble state of the world, people born in 90s and later grumble mumble*
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On August 03 2012 11:44 zimz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 11:41 Chytilova wrote:On August 03 2012 11:22 zimz wrote:
you guys really think the esports elite is equiviolent to gymnast elite??? you really think they are on that level?
gymnast risk their entire body..... train Mind and Body. if you don't judge a move or fall right you can get injured bad. to avoid injury you require seriouse accuracy. their mental and physical has to be humans best... You do realize gymnastics isn't the only Olympic sport right? I do not really care about Starcraft being in the Olympics or not, but come on dude, not every event is that taxing or dangerous. You could make the same argument against golf being added. even to be the best syncronized swimmers in your country, you have to be very perfect in fitness and mind.
I didn't say anything against synchronized swimming. Why would you think I don't know that's difficult physically? And as an aside every competition requires mental strength, even *gasp* Starcraft, so no need to even bring that up.
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On August 03 2012 11:55 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 11:13 Vindicare605 wrote:On August 03 2012 11:09 endy wrote:
Where is the "none of them" option ?
e-sports are not sports. Hence the different name. Neither is motorboating, town planning or pistol dueling. the point is that the olympics have set a precedent for unusual sports in the olympic games. Esports is no more unusual than any of the other floaters the difference is that there is a huge following behind it and it has legitimate competition involved with it as well. I repeat, traditional sport transcend generations, electronic sports are just fads that comes and go.
I didn't realize you were an oracle that could see into the future with absolute clarity.
Sports survive because of popularity and support from their fanbase. The truly great sports have international appeal and support.
E-sports is the future imo. As technology gets better and better and people find more and more ways to utilize that technology as a competitive environment more and more esports will develop.
The reason it's truly the future is because e-sports provides a competitive atmosphere where genetics and biology play a minimal role which only increases the role of skill over everything else.
In 2020 which is where the Fox people were saying Starcraft might be considered, I can definitely see the e-sports scene thriving to a point where the addition of key games like Starcraft will be a non-controversial topic.
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Poll: Should video games even be in the Olympics?No, all forms of competitive activity in the Olympics should be highly physical (27) 71% Yes, physical activity shouldn't be the sole focus (11) 29% I don't know (0) 0% 38 total votes Your vote: Should video games even be in the Olympics? (Vote): Yes, physical activity shouldn't be the sole focus
(Vote): No, all forms of competitive activity in the Olympics should be highly physical
(Vote): I don't know
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On August 03 2012 12:01 Praetorial wrote:Poll: Should video games even be in the Olympics?No, all forms of competitive activity in the Olympics should be highly physical (27) 71% Yes, physical activity shouldn't be the sole focus (11) 29% I don't know (0) 0% 38 total votes Your vote: Should video games even be in the Olympics? (Vote): Yes, physical activity shouldn't be the sole focus
(Vote): No, all forms of competitive activity in the Olympics should be highly physical
(Vote): I don't know
This is a poorly worded question.
In what way is shooting or equestrian sports physical activity?
Sure it requires training and practice to become a truly skilled contestant but so do e-sports.
By your wording of said question a huge number of events could be invalidated because they arent physical enough.
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fox news is the biggest joke
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On August 03 2012 11:14 Zach426 wrote:
As cool as it would be, I doubt it will ever happen, and I don't even know if I would want it to happen either. The olympics are for atheltics competing in physical activites, and people playing video games doesn't make the cut. You don't see chess as an olympic sport.
Except chess is recognized as a sport by the IOC. There's a lot of sports that don't make the olympics games like baseball, but doesn't mean they aren't sports or recognized as sports by the IOC. Usually it comes down to popularity and universality.
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On August 03 2012 12:00 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 11:55 Xiphos wrote:On August 03 2012 11:13 Vindicare605 wrote:On August 03 2012 11:09 endy wrote:
Where is the "none of them" option ?
e-sports are not sports. Hence the different name. Neither is motorboating, town planning or pistol dueling. the point is that the olympics have set a precedent for unusual sports in the olympic games. Esports is no more unusual than any of the other floaters the difference is that there is a huge following behind it and it has legitimate competition involved with it as well. I repeat, traditional sport transcend generations, electronic sports are just fads that comes and go. I didn't realize you were an oracle that could see into the future with absolute clarity. Sports survive because of popularity and support from their fanbase. The truly great sports have international appeal and support. E-sports is the future imo. As technology gets better and better and people find more and more ways to utilize that technology as a competitive environment more and more esports will develop. The reason it's truly the future is because e-sports provides a competitive atmosphere where genetics and biology play a minimal role which only increases the role of skill over everything else. In 2020 which is where the Fox people were saying Starcraft might be considered, I can definitely see the e-sports scene thriving to a point where the addition of key games like Starcraft will be a non-controversial topic.
Look buddy, when StarCraft 3 comes out, Blizzard will simply say "Put down your SC2, its time to move on."
And that's fact, don't run away from it.
I hope that I don't have to repeat my aforementioned statement.
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Well I always thought that it should be a highly physical competition and was only really meant for that, but gymnastics, while highly physical seems to be regularly misjudged (read: rigged) and is perhaps not so much a physical competition any more, at least not in the Olympics (not to mentioned that the bloody Australian coverage mostly focusses on events we can win, so we barely see any of the interesting events -___-), diving is physical but the judging is based as much on the appearance of the performance as than the difficulty of the movements and synchronised swimming probably also has more subjective judging, where the winner is not so clear as it is when someone beats another in a sprint and you have precise snap-shots to show who beat who.
"E-Sports" when truly competitive, might require extremely well trained muscle memory, hand dexterity and lightning fast reflexes, so while it may not require huge amounts of energy or the muscles of Hercules, one could still argue that it requires a lot of physical training.
They probably should be qualified options for the Olympics because realistically, they probably still wouldn't get into most Olympics anyway due to the lack of universality.
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On August 03 2012 12:18 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 12:00 Vindicare605 wrote:On August 03 2012 11:55 Xiphos wrote:On August 03 2012 11:13 Vindicare605 wrote:On August 03 2012 11:09 endy wrote:
Where is the "none of them" option ?
e-sports are not sports. Hence the different name. Neither is motorboating, town planning or pistol dueling. the point is that the olympics have set a precedent for unusual sports in the olympic games. Esports is no more unusual than any of the other floaters the difference is that there is a huge following behind it and it has legitimate competition involved with it as well. I repeat, traditional sport transcend generations, electronic sports are just fads that comes and go. I didn't realize you were an oracle that could see into the future with absolute clarity. Sports survive because of popularity and support from their fanbase. The truly great sports have international appeal and support. E-sports is the future imo. As technology gets better and better and people find more and more ways to utilize that technology as a competitive environment more and more esports will develop. The reason it's truly the future is because e-sports provides a competitive atmosphere where genetics and biology play a minimal role which only increases the role of skill over everything else. In 2020 which is where the Fox people were saying Starcraft might be considered, I can definitely see the e-sports scene thriving to a point where the addition of key games like Starcraft will be a non-controversial topic. Look buddy, when StarCraft 3 comes out, Blizzard will simply say "Put down your SC2, its time to move on." And that's fact, don't run away from it. I hope that I don't have to repeat my aforementioned statement.
In 2020 Legacy of the Void will have only been out for a few years if that.
Starcraft 3 is another 10 years MINIMUM from even being developed. That's plenty of time for SC2 to make it into the Olympics, if it gets cycled out because no one wanted to watch it well that's one thing, but I don't think that's going to happen.
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On August 03 2012 10:51 FairForever wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 10:43 Tosster wrote:On August 03 2012 09:41 writer22816 wrote:On August 03 2012 08:59 kochanfe wrote:
SC2 takes vastly more skill at the top level than many Olympic sports? Why should it not be aloud to be among them? Because it doesn't? Saying that SC2 "takes vastly more skill" is just an insult to Olympian athletes. Your post is an insult to Top SC2 progamers. -_- This has to be a joke. Name one single (edit: Olympic) sport that takes less skill than Starcraft 2. I love playing SC2 but let's be serious, this would be a terrible idea and would never happen anyway.
equestrian, shooting
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I say bring back town planning instead!
Having a discussion about this in an SC2 forum makes it invalid so no point in arguing about something that 95% will agree on from the get go.
If SC2 or LoL even got on there it would be a demonstrational sport and would probably be gone in time for the next one, there's just no need to trying to make gaming so legit all the time when it's growing fine on its own :/
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This is a pretty bad joke lol, video games have no place in the olympics. There are other international events for this.
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anyways esports got WCG and that is fine for international competition. it doesn't need or should go to olympics.
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On August 03 2012 12:22 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 12:18 Xiphos wrote:On August 03 2012 12:00 Vindicare605 wrote:On August 03 2012 11:55 Xiphos wrote:On August 03 2012 11:13 Vindicare605 wrote:On August 03 2012 11:09 endy wrote:
Where is the "none of them" option ?
e-sports are not sports. Hence the different name. Neither is motorboating, town planning or pistol dueling. the point is that the olympics have set a precedent for unusual sports in the olympic games. Esports is no more unusual than any of the other floaters the difference is that there is a huge following behind it and it has legitimate competition involved with it as well. I repeat, traditional sport transcend generations, electronic sports are just fads that comes and go. I didn't realize you were an oracle that could see into the future with absolute clarity. Sports survive because of popularity and support from their fanbase. The truly great sports have international appeal and support. E-sports is the future imo. As technology gets better and better and people find more and more ways to utilize that technology as a competitive environment more and more esports will develop. The reason it's truly the future is because e-sports provides a competitive atmosphere where genetics and biology play a minimal role which only increases the role of skill over everything else. In 2020 which is where the Fox people were saying Starcraft might be considered, I can definitely see the e-sports scene thriving to a point where the addition of key games like Starcraft will be a non-controversial topic. Look buddy, when StarCraft 3 comes out, Blizzard will simply say "Put down your SC2, its time to move on." And that's fact, don't run away from it. I hope that I don't have to repeat my aforementioned statement. In 2020 Legacy of the Void will have only been out for a few years if that. Starcraft 3 is another 10 years MINIMUM from even being developed. That's plenty of time for SC2 to make it into the Olympics, if it gets cycled out because no one wanted to watch it well that's one thing, but I don't think that's going to happen.
Yeah it takes at least 7 to 8 years to approve a sport to be made on the olympic list and then after that you might want to wait couple of years until it will be played. And once competitions happen, and then BAM latest sequels with the audience left wondering wtf happened to the other game.
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On August 03 2012 12:49 stormtemplar wrote:
People who are saying that olympic sports must be physical: chess has an official olympiad
So does playing handball in mud...
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Video games shouldn't be in the Olympics. I'm pretty sure even many BW fans will say that BW shouldn't be part of the olympics.
The Olympics is one thing and video game tournaments are another. There's no real ways of describing it other than video games being in the Olympics is just a retarded idea.
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Well shit. In the future the United States won't stand a chance. South Korea, China, and Sweden will be the top 3 in medals 100 years from now when everything is esports.
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