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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-09 16:25:18
February 09 2017 16:24 GMT
#1361
It's that time again as Samsung starts to try and sell off the rest of the Galaxy S7's to make room for the release of the Galaxy S8.

Now you have the opportunity to get the current flagship with a sweet gift. If you buy Samsung Galaxy S7 or Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge until Feburary 14, and you are based in the United States, you will get a 256GB microSD card. The Korean company promises that it’s not just a storage card, but comes with improved read and write speeds when recording UHD videos.

If you buy the phone from a retailer or carrier’s office, you have time until February 21 to request the gift and to provide all the documents needed. If you prefer to go through Samsung’s Online Store, when adding a device in the basket, you’ll already see the card added for free. The company expects to give out around 75,000 microSD cards.

Samsung Galaxy S7 costs $669 and the Galaxy S7 Edge is $769, while the 256GB microSD EVO+ memory card is $249.99, if bought separately.


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Samsung will have a lot going on at Mobile World Congress. We’ve got tablets, perhaps some cool accessories, and even a tease of the Samsung Galaxy S8 on the way.

But they have even more than that, apparently. ETNews reports Samsung will be toting some prototypes of their foldable phone concept at the show.

Unfortunately, they aren’t bringing these along to share with the public. Their intent is to do private, confidential screenings to select business partners in order to gauge market interest. It’s a common practice in the industry, with some companies privately attending these trade shows without having any public presence.

It’s not clear if the prototypes they’ll have on hand are working models or if they’re simply dummy units ala Lenovo’s non-working phone-watch-tablet-thingy we saw way back when.

In any case, this is the first time we’ve heard of the phone existing in a real way instead of through thoughts and patents. We still don’t know when, exactly, these things will be ready for the world to enjoy (rumors say later this year), but Samsung has confirmed they have the capabilities to produce the components needed for these phones, and so all they need at this point is to craft the perfect product.


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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3040 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-09 16:29:55
February 09 2017 16:26 GMT
#1362
My Nexus 5X just broke again, so I just ordered an S7; should come today. Got it for $520 (that's $150 less than on Samsung's website), and I have no need for a microSD.

I could've waited for the S8, but I need a phone now, and I don't want to pay day-1 price for it. Also I don't like the edge-screen, and the S8 won't have a classic rectangular screen (also none of the rumored features of the S8 appeal to me). The only thing I'm sad about is the USB-C, I have a dozen for my 5X but I'll have to go back to microUSB for the S7.

Anyone have any tips for keeping it safe? Has to last me at least four years. I already got a thick case and screen protector. Does turning off Quick Charge prolong the battery?
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 14 2017 12:46 GMT
#1363
Back at Google I/O 2016, we got a first look at Google Assistant. It was designed to be a conversational assistant, as opposed to the search-based Google Now. Then when Allo was released in September, it shipped with a beta version of Assistant. Finally when the Google Pixel phones were released in October, Assistant was a major selling point.

Google has a tendency to rush products out the door without fully finishing them, and Assistant was no exception. So now that about four months has passed since the official introduction of Google Assistant (roughly five months if you count the Allo beta), has anything changed?

Before Assistant, Google Search served as both a native app for web searches and as a basic voice assistant. Search only has basic assistant functionality, most of which has been ported to Google Assistant. Features like changing device settings (turning Wi-Fi on/off, toggling flashlight, etc), sending SMS and Hangouts messages, setting reminders, and managing your calendar are present on both products. Most people would expect all of Search's existing functionality to be included in Assistant, but that isn't the case.

A bizarre number of Search features are still absent from Assistant, even four months after launch. One of my favorite features is the ability to identify music, but Assistant responds with "I can't identify songs yet." Assistant also can't read recent texts (only send them), or add items to specific lists in Google Keep - both of which have been in Google Search for some time now.

It makes sense, especially for a Google product, that some functionality would be missing on release. So what has changed in the past four months? At first, Assistant couldn't control Nest thermostats like Google Search, but this was fixed in December. Some of the functionality from Google Now on Tap, like taking a screenshot, wasn't added back until January.

Assistant should have included all of Google Search's functionality at launch, but Google has a tendency to push products out the door before they are fully-baked. Four months later, little progress has been made to close the feature gap with Google Search.


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We leaked an exclusive on the Galaxy Tab S3 some 4 months ago, providing model numbers for WiFi and LTE models along with a Q1 2017 launch date but little else. Since then, the Tab S3 LTE has received WiFi certification and Bluetooth certification, and the WiFi model just received its Bluetooth certification weeks ago. Just two weeks ago, the tablet’s specs and pricing were revealed, showing a 9.7-inch display, 2048 x 1536p screen resolution, a Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 SoC, 4GB of RAM, a 5MP front camera, and 12MP back camera. Now, a Galaxy Tab S3 photo has leaked, along with confirming much of what we know and adding some details in a new report.

The new report, supplied by Roland Quandt, says that Samsung will not release an 8-inch model this year — so there’ll be no “Galaxy Tab S3 9.7″ moniker, as has been the case with the Galaxy Tab S2, for example. There is an S Pen aboard, confirming the report we received a week ago, though it can’t be stored in the tablet itself (no Note tablet experience here, folks). Additionally, the Tab S3 will have a new Silver version that will replace the former white model (the tablet will retain its black color option) and come with 32GB of storage. Rounding out the specs is LTE Cat. 6 support, Gigabit WLAN, and Bluetooth 4.2. The pricing for the device comes in at around $600 USD. We’ve seen from Samsung’s MWC 2017 press invite that the Galaxy Tab S3 will feature a front-facing fingerprint sensor as well.

We’re sure that the news of an S Pen with the Tab S3 will appeal to a number of Samsung fans who’ve been wanting a Galaxy Note Tab upgrade. If you want to make it yours, however, you’ll have to wait just a little longer to get your hands on it.


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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-16 16:21:23
February 16 2017 16:20 GMT
#1364
So my S6 Edge+'s antenna must've come loose or something because my data connection became incredibly spotty 2 days. I am insured. My contract also has an upgrade option starting around June. I walked into a store today to check my options.

1) Pay 60 pounds excess and have a replacement S6 Edge+, but my contract stays the same, and I can upgrade in June.

2) Use insurance to cover my early upgrade fee, and pay 160 pounds or so for a new Google Pixel XL. I get locked into a new 2 year contract.

I ended up going with the first option because I'm interested in waiting for the S8 or rumoured 'S8+', but I was sorely tempted for a short moment to buy the Pixel. What would've you done?
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Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12249 Posts
February 16 2017 17:26 GMT
#1365
I love my Pixel XL. I don't know what to expect from the S8, but the Pixel XL is a pretty powerful and versatile device that's going to have staying power -- I don't think you'd regret your decision if that's what you chose.
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LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3040 Posts
February 16 2017 19:04 GMT
#1366
I don't have a Pixel, but IMO it's overpriced as hell. It's $200 USD more than the previous Nexus generation for a standard spec bump.

I've had my S7 for over a week now and I can say that it's pretty great. The irremovable bloatware is kind of annoying but in spite of that, it still has considerably better performance than my old 5X did. I'd say waiting for the S8 was the right decision, it's probably going to annihilate the next-gen Pixel phones, to say nothing of the current gen.
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
February 16 2017 23:32 GMT
#1367
i highly doubt it will 'annihilate' next gen pixels when the older pixels were just as fast as s7s
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3040 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-17 17:04:18
February 17 2017 17:03 GMT
#1368
On February 17 2017 08:32 andyrau wrote:
i highly doubt it will 'annihilate' next gen pixels when the older pixels were just as fast as s7s


But that's the point, they're at the same price point and have comparable performance this generation. But the GS7 has a superior display (smaller bezel, better colors), water/dust resistance, Samsung-exclusive software (Samsung Pay, KNOX, Samsung Member, Cloud backup, etc.). The Pixel's advantages are simply a faster/longer update track (not a huge advantage IMO), and the built-in Google Assistant (don't really care about that personally).

Right now the GS8/Note 8 are projected to have even more exclusive features, whereas the Pixel 2 is expected to just be maybe a spec bump, and the addition of water/dust resistance. So the Pixel 2 is going to close the gap a bit, but it still looks vastly inferior at the same price point.

The one thing I'll say is that Samsung dropping the non-edge screens for the next gen is a huge mistake IMO. I hate those damn things.
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10342 Posts
February 17 2017 17:45 GMT
#1369
I think my next phone will be based on Snapdragon 835. Hopefully HTC or Google come out with a pretty stock Android device. Also contemplating ordering something from China if the LTE band support is there.
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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
February 17 2017 19:24 GMT
#1370
Youll have to wait a bit for the 835 tho, rumours are that Samsung locked down the processor for the first batch, probably after May or something we could see some 835 phones

but the 835 doesnt seems to be a big upgrade overall, mostly about better power efficiency and GPU, CPU mostly the same... and even the GPU is not that big of a jump.

So if you really want a phone right now, just get a 821, youll hardly notice the difference
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3040 Posts
February 17 2017 19:25 GMT
#1371
The LG G6 is going to use an older Snapdragon, supposedly because Samsung's gobbling them all up for the GS8.

There was an interesting article recently suggesting that Qualcomm has a de-facto lateral monopoly on smartphone CPUs, because they also control the CDMA specification and they lock out Samsung and HiSilicon with it (which prevents Verizon's and Sprint's cellular radios from working on their Exynos/Kirin CPUs). For that reason I opted to go for the Exynos variant of my GS7 (no trouble for me, I use Ting Mobile which utilize T-Mobile's cellular towers), although the downside is that Samsung Pay is only supported on the Snapdragon variant in the USA.
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10342 Posts
February 17 2017 20:34 GMT
#1372
I don't mind waiting a bit until later this year. It doesn't really make sense to get a 14nm chipset when 10nm is just around the corner. Even if the performance isn't improved, the power efficiency will be very welcome as I still play Ingress .
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
February 17 2017 21:01 GMT
#1373
On February 18 2017 02:03 LightSpectra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2017 08:32 andyrau wrote:
i highly doubt it will 'annihilate' next gen pixels when the older pixels were just as fast as s7s


But that's the point, they're at the same price point and have comparable performance this generation. But the GS7 has a superior display (smaller bezel, better colors), water/dust resistance, Samsung-exclusive software (Samsung Pay, KNOX, Samsung Member, Cloud backup, etc.). The Pixel's advantages are simply a faster/longer update track (not a huge advantage IMO), and the built-in Google Assistant (don't really care about that personally).

Right now the GS8/Note 8 are projected to have even more exclusive features, whereas the Pixel 2 is expected to just be maybe a spec bump, and the addition of water/dust resistance. So the Pixel 2 is going to close the gap a bit, but it still looks vastly inferior at the same price point.

The one thing I'll say is that Samsung dropping the non-edge screens for the next gen is a huge mistake IMO. I hate those damn things.

- bezels have nothing to do with the display but sure, better grayscale & color gamut accuracy on the s7
- that software is subjective, i find it a nuisance and you obviously find it an advantage
- idk how much utility whole waterproofing/dustproof feature really provides users

you're conflating the issues regardless
the pixel was based off an 821 and s7 is off the 820, which was more or less similar to the performance delta between kaby lake and skylake.

if the next s8 is using the 835 (or the exynos 8895) like rumors suggest, then the next pixel will use something similar in performance, especially if both companies follow their traditional release schedule.

'annihilate' would be more applicable to the ip7s vs the s8.
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 26 2017 10:29 GMT
#1374
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18412 Posts
February 26 2017 10:37 GMT
#1375
On February 26 2017 19:29 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/RDR0b11/status/835764550012137472

I'd say "are you telling us? Or trying to gauge the reaction so you can pull the plug if it isn't overwhelmingly positive?"
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 26 2017 16:47 GMT
#1376
Everyone needs a helping hand sometimes. Enter the Google Assistant, which is conversational, personal and helps you get things done—from telling you about your day to taking a selfie. The Assistant is already available on Pixel, Google Home, Google Allo and Android Wear. Now we're bringing it to even more people. Starting this week, the Google Assistant is coming to smartphones running Android 7.0 Nougat and Android 6.0 Marshmallow.

Whether you need to know how to say “nice to meet you” in Korean or just a simple reminder to do laundry when you get home, your Assistant can help. With the Google Assistant on Android phones, you have your own personal, helpful Google right in your pocket.

And here are a few other things to try out—just long press on the Home button or say “Ok Google” to get started:
  • What’s my confirmation number for my London flight?
  • Take me to Museu Picasso.
  • Show my photos of sunsets in Tahoe.
  • Do I need an umbrella today?
  • Turn on the living room lights.

The Google Assistant will begin rolling out this week to English users in the U.S., followed by English in Australia, Canada and the United Kingdom, as well as German speakers in Germany. We’ll continue to add more languages over the coming year.

The Google Assistant will automatically come to eligible Android phones running Nougat and Marshmallow with Google Play Services. You'll also see the Google Assistant on some newly announced partner devices, including the LG G6.

If you happen to be in Barcelona, Spain at the mobile industry’s largest trade show Mobile World Congress this week, stop by the Android Global Village to try out the Google Assistant across a number of Android partner phones, including HTC, Huawei, Samsung and Sony.

Our goal is to make the Assistant available anywhere you need it. It came to Android Wear 2.0—via new smartwatches—just a few weeks ago and, as we previewed in January, the Assistant is also coming to TVs and cars. With this update, hundreds of millions of Android users will now be able to try out the Google Assistant. What will you ask first?


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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 01 2017 15:29 GMT
#1377


"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3040 Posts
March 01 2017 15:39 GMT
#1378
Am I the last person on earth that hates those curved-edge screens?

Easily breakable, awkward to hold (with a case, it looks awkward as well), distorts whatever image/video you're looking at.
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18412 Posts
March 01 2017 15:48 GMT
#1379
On March 02 2017 00:39 LightSpectra wrote:
Am I the last person on earth that hates those curved-edge screens?

Easily breakable, awkward to hold (with a case, it looks awkward as well), distorts whatever image/video you're looking at.

I loved the idea on the Note Edge. I don't like the execution on S7 Edge. I haven't actually tried to watch videos, but if it actually uses the curved over parts for playing videos (or images), then that is really dumb. The reason I found it had so much potential on the Note Edge is because it seems like it's a pretty intuitive place for controls and quick updates. A curved screen just for the sake of it serves no purpose (although I do think it looks very nice), and if used as an integral part of the display, just makes things harder to look at. I was under the impression that the main "window" of the phone was the flat part, so playing a video fullscreen would use the flat part, and not the curved bits.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
March 01 2017 19:32 GMT
#1380
it looks nice
utility is a completely different question
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