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aznball123
Profile Joined February 2012
2759 Posts
July 03 2012 19:51 GMT
#41
Board was probably all bw fans
Mmm, what to watch.
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-03 19:55:21
July 03 2012 19:54 GMT
#42
On July 04 2012 03:00 Matuka wrote:
Implying that there is such a thing as gaming addiction.

someone doesn't understand how the mind works lol. You can be addicted to anything.

Is it really that bad in korea? i mean why is the gov't stepping in.. this is a parental issue 100%
Mongoose
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom190 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-03 19:56:50
July 03 2012 19:55 GMT
#43
I'm now 20 and have been addicted to online games since i was like 11 (in the summer when I had no school I would spend 10+ hours a day on the computer, even on school days I would still play at least 4 hours per day), my parents were against it and regulated it at times, but in the end I still managed to play a lot.

Do I think I wasted my teenage years? No. I still had friends that I went out with occasionally, and a few girlfriends. I got good marks at school, got good A levels and got into a good university. I had a hell of a lot more fun playing games than I would have playing sports or other normal activities, and gained a lot of life experience through online games (meeting people, making clans, hosting my own servers etc). I remember the pure excitement of playing my first MMO, and sneaking downstairs at 3am when my parents were in bed to participate in a clan war. Those were good times.

If anything, the negative effects of playing a lot of games have been that I don't really fit in to the real life 'system'. Although I got into a good university, I dropped out and have never had a job. I am now trying to become a professional music producer, but I find it hard to work at something long-term (I can sometimes do months of hard work at something, then get bored and move on to something else). I never felt motivated to get a normal job.
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matiK23
Profile Joined May 2011
United States963 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-03 20:06:38
July 03 2012 20:03 GMT
#44
I actually support this law. Video games have no benefits to life and is a time dump. Kids should be outside being active. There are exceptions to every rule, but video games don't exactly inspire kids to be active and be the best to their human ability.
Without a paddle up shit creek.
som3thingclassy
Profile Joined January 2012
United States22 Posts
July 03 2012 20:03 GMT
#45
On July 04 2012 03:07 blubbdavid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 03:06 Xiphos wrote:
On July 04 2012 03:00 Matuka wrote:
Implying that there is such a thing as gaming addiction.


There is, tho.

People can die of gaming addiction.


If you're talking about the people who die from DVT while gaming the same thing can happen during long airplane flights.
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
July 03 2012 20:07 GMT
#46
Uh...

Can't the parents do this already?
derp
matiK23
Profile Joined May 2011
United States963 Posts
July 03 2012 20:07 GMT
#47
On July 04 2012 04:54 sc14s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 03:00 Matuka wrote:
Implying that there is such a thing as gaming addiction.

someone doesn't understand how the mind works lol. You can be addicted to anything.

Is it really that bad in korea? i mean why is the gov't stepping in.. this is a parental issue 100%


"the world is an addiction"

-Abraham Lincoln
Without a paddle up shit creek.
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
July 03 2012 20:10 GMT
#48
As someone who is still addicted to video games and has seen it negatively impact my relationships, I support common sense laws that discourage it without restricting freedom too much. This is a positive thing overall, even if it means there might not be any more Babys or Leenocks.
Louis8k8
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada285 Posts
July 03 2012 20:12 GMT
#49
On July 04 2012 04:54 sc14s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 03:00 Matuka wrote:
Implying that there is such a thing as gaming addiction.

someone doesn't understand how the mind works lol. You can be addicted to anything.

Is it really that bad in korea? i mean why is the gov't stepping in.. this is a parental issue 100%

While I agree the gov't should have better things to do than enforce how children are restricted when it's the responsibility of the parent, the government of a nation is responsible for the wellbeing of its future generation. I don't know how bad gaming addiction is to the point that it has a significant negative impact in SK, but there definitely is a tipping point where some level of government needs to step in.

Just like how in NA, we have laws enforced that gives children the right to elementary (and higher) education while taking away their right to consume alcohol, it's the government and lawmakers stepping in and setting the foundation for how a parent should raise their child.

If the job market is declining in new qualified people because 30% (some random arbitrary number) of the youth dropped out of highschool to play video games on their parents' expense, then some authority, that is not the parents, needs to improve that as the parents are being terribly irresponsible.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8247 Posts
July 03 2012 20:12 GMT
#50
On July 04 2012 04:55 Mongoose wrote:
I'm now 20 and have been addicted to online games since i was like 11 (in the summer when I had no school I would spend 10+ hours a day on the computer, even on school days I would still play at least 4 hours per day), my parents were against it and regulated it at times, but in the end I still managed to play a lot.

Do I think I wasted my teenage years? No. I still had friends that I went out with occasionally, and a few girlfriends. I got good marks at school, got good A levels and got into a good university. I had a hell of a lot more fun playing games than I would have playing sports or other normal activities, and gained a lot of life experience through online games (meeting people, making clans, hosting my own servers etc). I remember the pure excitement of playing my first MMO, and sneaking downstairs at 3am when my parents were in bed to participate in a clan war. Those were good times.

If anything, the negative effects of playing a lot of games have been that I don't really fit in to the real life 'system'. Although I got into a good university, I dropped out and have never had a job. I am now trying to become a professional music producer, but I find it hard to work at something long-term (I can sometimes do months of hard work at something, then get bored and move on to something else). I never felt motivated to get a normal job.


Thats hardly more an addiction than "hanging with friends" or "turning the lights on when you get home". An addiction is when your life turns completely to trash because you simply cannot stop doing something. Meaning living in your mothers basement till you're 50, no job, no education, no friends, etc. All because you can't stop doing a certain thing.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
July 03 2012 20:14 GMT
#51
On July 04 2012 03:31 CaptainCrush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 03:07 blubbdavid wrote:
On July 04 2012 03:06 Xiphos wrote:
On July 04 2012 03:00 Matuka wrote:
Implying that there is such a thing as gaming addiction.


There is, tho.

People can die of gaming addiction.


Negative, I have only heard of people dying of stupidity while excessively gaming.


You could say the same for any other kind of non-physical addiction. It's always easiest (also the most useless) to just call people stupid.

On topic, I'm unsure what to think of this. I think a lot of responsibility is on the game developers themselves, especially when it comes to "addictive" progression-based mechanics that encourage players to keep playing beyond what they would normally enjoy and be comfortable with. Actually, if I remember correctly Korea recently also had a law dealing specifically with this.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45458 Posts
July 03 2012 20:17 GMT
#52
On July 04 2012 03:07 blubbdavid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 03:06 Xiphos wrote:
On July 04 2012 03:00 Matuka wrote:
Implying that there is such a thing as gaming addiction.


There is, tho.

People can die of gaming addiction.


People can die of anything. Heck, people drown. Ban water?

Parents should be monitoring their children, period.

Also, OP's link still doesn't work
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Flamingo777
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1190 Posts
July 03 2012 20:18 GMT
#53
OP needs more information imo.. Link didn't work for me either.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-03 20:25:32
July 03 2012 20:19 GMT
#54
I think gaming is still sort of new to many parents and society moves so fast these days that parents are always behind on what their kids are doing. I know everyone always blames parents and says it's their responsibility, but a lot of parents just aren't informed and also have no idea on how to have any sort of control over what their kids are doing. It's an area where the younger generation has an advantage, in any case, I know I was always able to sneak in gaming time despite my parents not liking it. If they can give parents tools to set very clear limits/controls on their child's gaming habits, I don't think that's a bad thing, necessarily, even if it does probably add costs to designing games and if it's implemented in a way that infringes on other qualities that'll be bothersome.

To be honest, I think that in retrospect I would have preferred my parents taking a higher interest in how I would spend my time when I was younger and would have prevented me from spending so much time gaming. One tends to not make the best decisions at age 14 or 15, I guess.

I also want to add that my parents are university educated, yet had no clue on how to set effective limits on anything. My mother would scream about disconnecting internet, but then I'd just say I needed it for school, or I'd play some offline game or my brothers would protest about it etc. They have no effective way to enforce any of these things, unless they're smart, and an official "government approved way of limiting your kids gaming time" isn't so bad as long as it's an effective enforcement that doesn't force e.g. 'always online' gameplay.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
July 03 2012 20:20 GMT
#55
On July 04 2012 03:03 Jonoman92 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 02:55 dudeman001 wrote:
"... We’ll probably start seeing other countries overtake the South Koreans in StarCraft 2 soon, then."


lol what a drama queen statement, no way is that going to happen

Definitely won't be any young, flash-like players anyway. No parent would allow them to play enough to have a chance at getting good.
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
July 03 2012 20:21 GMT
#56
Admittedly, people can't die from addiction itself, or stupidity. It's probably death by exhaustion. I made a point, so what's your problem jumping on me? You guys haven't been in Korea and seen things there.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Nightsz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada398 Posts
July 03 2012 20:23 GMT
#57
Koreans needed a nerf anyways.

Fix the link dude, it doesn't work
leperphilliac
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States399 Posts
July 03 2012 20:23 GMT
#58
Best thing to happen to foreign players in SC2 in a while =P

In all honesty this law's terrible and draconian and won't actually do anything if the SK youth are half as tech savvy as their American counterparts in circumventing blocks.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
July 03 2012 20:25 GMT
#59
On July 04 2012 05:17 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 03:07 blubbdavid wrote:
On July 04 2012 03:06 Xiphos wrote:
On July 04 2012 03:00 Matuka wrote:
Implying that there is such a thing as gaming addiction.


There is, tho.

People can die of gaming addiction.


People can die of anything. Heck, people drown. Ban water?

Parents should be monitoring their children, period.


Water may not be banned, but there are usually a lot of rules and restrictions when it comes to things like construction design, urban design, there are rules and services intended to keep people safe on the beach, and so on. TL;DR there's a LOT of stuff in place to help prevent people from drowning, even though avoiding drowning should be fairly straightforward for most people.

It's usually a bad idea to rely on human competence, and human mistake is always likely and happens even to the best. Following good rules is always a lot more simple, straightforward, safe and requires less caution and decision making on behalf of an individual.
LucidityDark
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom139 Posts
July 03 2012 20:43 GMT
#60
We should ban pens guys. I think everybody around me is addicted to them, I mean they can't stop writing with them! Need to write something? First thing they pick up is a pen.

I guess this law doesn't change much because parents would basically stop their children anyway, but I guess it is a hard restriction for doing something that you enjoy and harm no one else while doing.
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