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On May 03 2012 03:27 Utinni wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 03:16 HellRoxYa wrote:On May 03 2012 03:12 HaXXspetten wrote:
Whaddya mean "forgot" to let him out, what the hell is that supposed to mean? Sickening to say the least. Most probably one guy thought another guy would do it. The other guy thought the first guy would do it. Since they both assumed it had been done, it had been done. It's not a complicated concept. It's something that should be worked in to routine to be avoided. The same thing happened with the guy who shot himself inbetween questioning by the police with a pistol he had on him the entire time. The police officers all assumed he had already been frisked by someone else, at pretty much all points in time up to him shooting himself. Both situations (this one and the guy with the gun) are of course entirely unacceptable but unless you put in to the work routine ways to avoid it, it will happen from time to time. Yes, it is a simple concept but that's their job... they were not doing it right in both instances. A few more days and their negligence to do their routine responsibilities might have killed a student. Shitty buzz 
It's not a problem with the individuals (at least not usually) but with the routines which allow for the misunderstanding to happen in the first place. There are multiple ways to solve it (for example, appoint someone to be responsible for frisking anyone arriving at the police station, irregardless if it has or hasn't already been done and give this person (can rotate on shifts, etc) the reponsibility, or in the topic this thread is about, have someone be responsible for checking the holding cells, say, once a day. Have a schedule with checkboxes). It's not so much "they" as the system they operate in that almost made a fatal error.
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On May 03 2012 03:26 Kaitlin wrote:Federal Tort Claims Act. This is the law that offers the ONLY opportunity for this guy to sue the government. As part of this, punitive damages ($10 million) do not fly. It looks like he can sue for actual damages, such as loss of life and property loss, neither of which apply here. I'm not sure what kind of health he's in now, but if he's fully recovered, he's not gonna get much. Whatever amount he does get, it will basically cover medical bills for whatever conditions he has developed. Also, I'm not sure about this, because I only read it in one place, but there was a statement about only being able to sue under the FTCA for things which an ordinary, non-government citizen would be liable for. For example, if somebody slips in a post office. However, for functions not performed by ordinary citizens, the government can claim sovereign immunity and not be sued. So, we know the FTCA is the controlling legislation as to lawsuit potential here. We know FTCA only allows suit for actual damages, if at all. So, this guy ain't gonna get rich. http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/suing-government-negligence-FTCA-29705.html
Don't forget about the Civil Rights Act: 42 USC 1983. Good 'ol civil rights suit against the State for violation of your fundamental Constitutional rights. At first glance, I can see potential 6th, 8th, and 14th amendment violation arguments.
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On May 03 2012 03:44 ecstatica wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 03:28 AngryMag wrote:On May 03 2012 02:32 ecstatica wrote:On May 02 2012 22:52 AngryMag wrote:On May 02 2012 22:45 ecstatica wrote:
HAHAHAHA
So engineering student thought that meth was food? Maybe he ate his glasses for that same purpose as well?
It's horrible and all but how much of an idiot can someone be (if he was honest about it in his story)? Well it is really not meant in an insulting way, but you come across as an idiot here.. After some days without water, your brain does not work properly anymore, so labelling someone without a proper functioning brain who commits seemingly stupid desperation acts an idiot, is not the smartest move from you. Make sure you research everything you're about to post in the future, you don't seem to be one of the people that have it easy. People can perfectly survive without water for 7-10 days on average, that's of course if they are not dehydrating themselves by drinking own urine and eating meth off the floor. If you somehow think that 5 days with no food equals clinical insanity - please don't. I'd also like to find out when he took that meth specifically, it probably happened day 1 or 2 which makes all your arguments even sillier. If you don't think that people can go without food and water for 7 days - educate yourself. There's really not much to add here. Your ability to decide whether I'm an idiot or not is severely lacking since you're beyond ignorant. I am sorry, but no the average adult cannot survive without water for seven days. Life expectancy for the average adult without drinking water lies between 3 and 5 days depending on various circumstances (temperature, humidity, metabolism etc). In deserts you will (probably) not even make one day, people often died from dehydration within a few hours in deserts. And yes without water you start to suffer from symptoms which are also linked to clinical insanity for example hallucinations (among others). And no you do not dehydrate via drinking your own urin, the opposite is the case (in the first days without water, before you get "dry"). Don't be sorry for being ignorant, rather do something about it. Here's the first link off a simple google search. There's a table in it. You can guess the approximate temperature in a prison cell, shouldn't be 110F. http://www.survivaltopics.com/how-long-can-you-survive-without-water/http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_does_salt_water_dehydrate_you
again no, some charts do not equate scientific proof. General rule of thumb is between 3 and 5 days, like it or not. This is according to Prof.Dr. Anton Luger, head of the department of endocrinology and metabolism at AKH Wien and every other doc will tell you the same. Some guys who made it over-the-top long do not equal the average guy.
I rather trust science instead of random graphs without actual data to back them up
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On May 03 2012 00:42 Tewks44 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 00:24 Dryzt wrote:On May 03 2012 00:00 DeepElemBlues wrote:I think this is a pretty good example of the growing disconnect happening between the police and the public in America. Police are becoming more and more militarized and using tactics that get utilized in police state countries. There is little regard for human dignity or human welfare. Except the part where the very first time he saw anyone in five days, they immediately called for an ambulance. It's pretty obvious that they just messed up big time and actually forgot about him. You have no evidence whatsoever to connect "more militarized" and "using... police state [tactics]" to the facts of this case. You also have no evidence to be making the emotionally overwrought claim that "there is little regard for human dignity or human welfare." you are correct about my comments of the police being more "militarized" using "police state tactics" in regards to this specific case which so far is the DEA forgetting about an inmate. My comment is about how the role of police in general is changing. Human dignity and human welfare i just have to point you at the TSA or the fact that riot police are released on any gathering it seems today. yesterdays Occupy movement ended up pretty violent, numerous video's of protestors being beaten bloody. this event is just another occurance in a downward trend. At best this case is pure neglect brought about by lack of due diligence with regard people that fully depend on you for survival. This is kind of off topic, but from what I read on CNN regarding yesterday's occupy movement "Though police waited on surrounding streets with busses, police dogs and motor scooters, the protest continued to be peaceful as of midnight." (http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-784282?hpt=hp_bn1) - last line Sorry to be verging into off topic discussion, but you basically admitted that your comments about a more militarized police force in the U.S. have nothing really to do with this story, so I feel its only fair to provide an equally off topic counter argument.
i would say listening to anything CNN has to say is probably were your issue lies.
http://elitedaily.com/elite/2012/occupy-wall-street-activist-suffers-seizure-beaten-police/
this article talks about a female protestor being alegedly beaten by police into a seizure. Then they mistreat her while she is convulsing by moving her off to the side by her head as commented by witnesses. The article also includes a video captured by pretestors of the whole event.
this is just one case.
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On May 02 2012 15:13 [Agony]x90 wrote:http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/daniel-chong-ucsd-san-diego-dea-149758275.htmlAccording to this source, the person wasn't even supposed to be detained. Apparently they let him go and even offered him a ride home. Somehow, he ended up in that cell, where he almost died of dehydration. Regardless of how drugged this kid might have been/ how illegal the stuff he actually did, nearly dying in a cell is not justified by any means. Although russian rifles and thousands of rounds 0.o. Interesting lol.
This is common reaction for someone who has never owned a rifle or bullets. Anyone who's smart and shoots rifles buys the ammo in bulk from the US government. Insanely cheap and you get thousands of rounds. It's just how it works. They don't sell in small qualities. Also russian rifles (I'm assuming high-powered) are usually the cheapest kind.
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On May 03 2012 04:16 PassionFruit wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 03:26 Kaitlin wrote:Federal Tort Claims Act. This is the law that offers the ONLY opportunity for this guy to sue the government. As part of this, punitive damages ($10 million) do not fly. It looks like he can sue for actual damages, such as loss of life and property loss, neither of which apply here. I'm not sure what kind of health he's in now, but if he's fully recovered, he's not gonna get much. Whatever amount he does get, it will basically cover medical bills for whatever conditions he has developed. Also, I'm not sure about this, because I only read it in one place, but there was a statement about only being able to sue under the FTCA for things which an ordinary, non-government citizen would be liable for. For example, if somebody slips in a post office. However, for functions not performed by ordinary citizens, the government can claim sovereign immunity and not be sued. So, we know the FTCA is the controlling legislation as to lawsuit potential here. We know FTCA only allows suit for actual damages, if at all. So, this guy ain't gonna get rich. http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/suing-government-negligence-FTCA-29705.html Don't forget about the Civil Rights Act: 42 USC 1983. Good 'ol civil rights suit against the State for violation of your fundamental Constitutional rights. At first glance, I can see potential 6th, 8th, and 14th amendment violation arguments.
Take more than a first glance.
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On May 03 2012 04:17 AngryMag wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 03:44 ecstatica wrote:On May 03 2012 03:28 AngryMag wrote:On May 03 2012 02:32 ecstatica wrote:On May 02 2012 22:52 AngryMag wrote:On May 02 2012 22:45 ecstatica wrote:
HAHAHAHA
So engineering student thought that meth was food? Maybe he ate his glasses for that same purpose as well?
It's horrible and all but how much of an idiot can someone be (if he was honest about it in his story)? Well it is really not meant in an insulting way, but you come across as an idiot here.. After some days without water, your brain does not work properly anymore, so labelling someone without a proper functioning brain who commits seemingly stupid desperation acts an idiot, is not the smartest move from you. Make sure you research everything you're about to post in the future, you don't seem to be one of the people that have it easy. People can perfectly survive without water for 7-10 days on average, that's of course if they are not dehydrating themselves by drinking own urine and eating meth off the floor. If you somehow think that 5 days with no food equals clinical insanity - please don't. I'd also like to find out when he took that meth specifically, it probably happened day 1 or 2 which makes all your arguments even sillier. If you don't think that people can go without food and water for 7 days - educate yourself. There's really not much to add here. Your ability to decide whether I'm an idiot or not is severely lacking since you're beyond ignorant. I am sorry, but no the average adult cannot survive without water for seven days. Life expectancy for the average adult without drinking water lies between 3 and 5 days depending on various circumstances (temperature, humidity, metabolism etc). In deserts you will (probably) not even make one day, people often died from dehydration within a few hours in deserts. And yes without water you start to suffer from symptoms which are also linked to clinical insanity for example hallucinations (among others). And no you do not dehydrate via drinking your own urin, the opposite is the case (in the first days without water, before you get "dry"). Don't be sorry for being ignorant, rather do something about it. Here's the first link off a simple google search. There's a table in it. You can guess the approximate temperature in a prison cell, shouldn't be 110F. http://www.survivaltopics.com/how-long-can-you-survive-without-water/http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_does_salt_water_dehydrate_you again no, some charts do not equate scientific proof. General rule of thumb is between 3 and 5 days, like it or not. This is according to Prof.Dr. Anton Luger, head of the department of endocrinology and metabolism at AKH Wien and every other doc will tell you the same. Some guys who made it over-the-top long do not equal the average guy. I rather trust science instead of random graphs without actual data to back them up
"General rule of thumb", what the f is that? The same thing that always says 3 days? What science are you talking about, you can't string 2 sentences together and you bring "science" in. If you actually start searching beyond THE VERY FIRST LINK you will find that basically every source says the same and it's beyond 3-5 days. Stop being a clown.
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Although this guy probably isn't the average clean law-abiding college student, simply forgetting a detainee is unacceptable. I still can't believe it happened.
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On May 03 2012 04:17 AngryMag wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 03:44 ecstatica wrote:On May 03 2012 03:28 AngryMag wrote:On May 03 2012 02:32 ecstatica wrote:On May 02 2012 22:52 AngryMag wrote:On May 02 2012 22:45 ecstatica wrote:
HAHAHAHA
So engineering student thought that meth was food? Maybe he ate his glasses for that same purpose as well?
It's horrible and all but how much of an idiot can someone be (if he was honest about it in his story)? Well it is really not meant in an insulting way, but you come across as an idiot here.. After some days without water, your brain does not work properly anymore, so labelling someone without a proper functioning brain who commits seemingly stupid desperation acts an idiot, is not the smartest move from you. Make sure you research everything you're about to post in the future, you don't seem to be one of the people that have it easy. People can perfectly survive without water for 7-10 days on average, that's of course if they are not dehydrating themselves by drinking own urine and eating meth off the floor. If you somehow think that 5 days with no food equals clinical insanity - please don't. I'd also like to find out when he took that meth specifically, it probably happened day 1 or 2 which makes all your arguments even sillier. If you don't think that people can go without food and water for 7 days - educate yourself. There's really not much to add here. Your ability to decide whether I'm an idiot or not is severely lacking since you're beyond ignorant. I am sorry, but no the average adult cannot survive without water for seven days. Life expectancy for the average adult without drinking water lies between 3 and 5 days depending on various circumstances (temperature, humidity, metabolism etc). In deserts you will (probably) not even make one day, people often died from dehydration within a few hours in deserts. And yes without water you start to suffer from symptoms which are also linked to clinical insanity for example hallucinations (among others). And no you do not dehydrate via drinking your own urin, the opposite is the case (in the first days without water, before you get "dry"). Don't be sorry for being ignorant, rather do something about it. Here's the first link off a simple google search. There's a table in it. You can guess the approximate temperature in a prison cell, shouldn't be 110F. http://www.survivaltopics.com/how-long-can-you-survive-without-water/http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_does_salt_water_dehydrate_you again no, some charts do not equate scientific proof. General rule of thumb is between 3 and 5 days, like it or not. This is according to Prof.Dr. Anton Luger, head of the department of endocrinology and metabolism at AKH Wien and every other doc will tell you the same. Some guys who made it over-the-top long do not equal the average guy. I rather trust science instead of random graphs without actual data to back them up
ya, but asnwers.com said....
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On May 03 2012 04:28 Kaitlin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 04:16 PassionFruit wrote:On May 03 2012 03:26 Kaitlin wrote:Federal Tort Claims Act. This is the law that offers the ONLY opportunity for this guy to sue the government. As part of this, punitive damages ($10 million) do not fly. It looks like he can sue for actual damages, such as loss of life and property loss, neither of which apply here. I'm not sure what kind of health he's in now, but if he's fully recovered, he's not gonna get much. Whatever amount he does get, it will basically cover medical bills for whatever conditions he has developed. Also, I'm not sure about this, because I only read it in one place, but there was a statement about only being able to sue under the FTCA for things which an ordinary, non-government citizen would be liable for. For example, if somebody slips in a post office. However, for functions not performed by ordinary citizens, the government can claim sovereign immunity and not be sued. So, we know the FTCA is the controlling legislation as to lawsuit potential here. We know FTCA only allows suit for actual damages, if at all. So, this guy ain't gonna get rich. http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/suing-government-negligence-FTCA-29705.html Don't forget about the Civil Rights Act: 42 USC 1983. Good 'ol civil rights suit against the State for violation of your fundamental Constitutional rights. At first glance, I can see potential 6th, 8th, and 14th amendment violation arguments. Take more than a first glance.
lmao or you can explain it yourself.
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On May 02 2012 14:30 Disregard wrote:
A few million isn't going to help you with early retirement but still ^^
If you can't retire with a few million....
400k - house+ all furniture tv's etc.
100k - nice car
300k- investing/property tax/random bills.
200k- food/drinks/fun/
and thats just if you have 1 million...
Hell 400k for the house is only if you think you need a really nice house. I'd be fine with a 200-250k house.
I could EASILY retire right now today if I had a few million.
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On May 03 2012 04:35 ecstatica wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 04:17 AngryMag wrote:On May 03 2012 03:44 ecstatica wrote:On May 03 2012 03:28 AngryMag wrote:On May 03 2012 02:32 ecstatica wrote:On May 02 2012 22:52 AngryMag wrote:On May 02 2012 22:45 ecstatica wrote:
HAHAHAHA
So engineering student thought that meth was food? Maybe he ate his glasses for that same purpose as well?
It's horrible and all but how much of an idiot can someone be (if he was honest about it in his story)? Well it is really not meant in an insulting way, but you come across as an idiot here.. After some days without water, your brain does not work properly anymore, so labelling someone without a proper functioning brain who commits seemingly stupid desperation acts an idiot, is not the smartest move from you. Make sure you research everything you're about to post in the future, you don't seem to be one of the people that have it easy. People can perfectly survive without water for 7-10 days on average, that's of course if they are not dehydrating themselves by drinking own urine and eating meth off the floor. If you somehow think that 5 days with no food equals clinical insanity - please don't. I'd also like to find out when he took that meth specifically, it probably happened day 1 or 2 which makes all your arguments even sillier. If you don't think that people can go without food and water for 7 days - educate yourself. There's really not much to add here. Your ability to decide whether I'm an idiot or not is severely lacking since you're beyond ignorant. I am sorry, but no the average adult cannot survive without water for seven days. Life expectancy for the average adult without drinking water lies between 3 and 5 days depending on various circumstances (temperature, humidity, metabolism etc). In deserts you will (probably) not even make one day, people often died from dehydration within a few hours in deserts. And yes without water you start to suffer from symptoms which are also linked to clinical insanity for example hallucinations (among others). And no you do not dehydrate via drinking your own urin, the opposite is the case (in the first days without water, before you get "dry"). Don't be sorry for being ignorant, rather do something about it. Here's the first link off a simple google search. There's a table in it. You can guess the approximate temperature in a prison cell, shouldn't be 110F. http://www.survivaltopics.com/how-long-can-you-survive-without-water/http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_does_salt_water_dehydrate_you again no, some charts do not equate scientific proof. General rule of thumb is between 3 and 5 days, like it or not. This is according to Prof.Dr. Anton Luger, head of the department of endocrinology and metabolism at AKH Wien and every other doc will tell you the same. Some guys who made it over-the-top long do not equal the average guy. I rather trust science instead of random graphs without actual data to back them up "General rule of thumb", what the f is that? The same thing that always says 3 days? What science are you talking about, you can't string 2 sentences together and you bring "science" in. If you actually start searching beyond THE VERY FIRST LINK you will find that basically every source says the same and it's beyond 3-5 days. Stop being a clown.
I talk about the science in which intelligent people devote their whole lives to explore the functionality of human's metabolism. Well rule of thumb is a nice term to make clear that you cannot say "you will survive three days without water" because you have to consider various factors which come into play. But of course, you are free to keep your point of view, I guess arguing here is pointless
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On May 03 2012 04:25 Dryzt wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 00:42 Tewks44 wrote:On May 03 2012 00:24 Dryzt wrote:On May 03 2012 00:00 DeepElemBlues wrote:I think this is a pretty good example of the growing disconnect happening between the police and the public in America. Police are becoming more and more militarized and using tactics that get utilized in police state countries. There is little regard for human dignity or human welfare. Except the part where the very first time he saw anyone in five days, they immediately called for an ambulance. It's pretty obvious that they just messed up big time and actually forgot about him. You have no evidence whatsoever to connect "more militarized" and "using... police state [tactics]" to the facts of this case. You also have no evidence to be making the emotionally overwrought claim that "there is little regard for human dignity or human welfare." you are correct about my comments of the police being more "militarized" using "police state tactics" in regards to this specific case which so far is the DEA forgetting about an inmate. My comment is about how the role of police in general is changing. Human dignity and human welfare i just have to point you at the TSA or the fact that riot police are released on any gathering it seems today. yesterdays Occupy movement ended up pretty violent, numerous video's of protestors being beaten bloody. this event is just another occurance in a downward trend. At best this case is pure neglect brought about by lack of due diligence with regard people that fully depend on you for survival. This is kind of off topic, but from what I read on CNN regarding yesterday's occupy movement "Though police waited on surrounding streets with busses, police dogs and motor scooters, the protest continued to be peaceful as of midnight." (http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-784282?hpt=hp_bn1) - last line Sorry to be verging into off topic discussion, but you basically admitted that your comments about a more militarized police force in the U.S. have nothing really to do with this story, so I feel its only fair to provide an equally off topic counter argument. i would say listening to anything CNN has to say is probably were your issue lies. http://elitedaily.com/elite/2012/occupy-wall-street-activist-suffers-seizure-beaten-police/this article talks about a female protestor being alegedly beaten by police into a seizure. Then they mistreat her while she is convulsing by moving her off to the side by her head as commented by witnesses. The article also includes a video captured by pretestors of the whole event. this is just one case.
first of all, saying "this is just one case" does not support the idea that there were "numerous videos of protestors being beaten bloody" like you first alleged.
Second of all, reports differ. Although some people say she was beaten, others say she was handcuffed before she started seizing, and some people even say she elbowed an officer in the head and tried to run away before being subdued. Regardless, the headline was she was beaten, because this is what sounds most exciting. One thing is for sure, she went into a seizure
When she went into a seizure the accounts seem a tad more clear. It seems she was dragged onto the side of the road and was treated by a NYPD medic. The individual who uploaded the youtube video claims she was dragged by the head, although there is no video evidence, nor additional eye witnesses to support this.
Basically, from what I can gather there was some kind of altercation with a protestor and police, the protestor had a seizure, and was then treated. I am also kind of confused why you would imply the quality of CNN's journalism is lacking, and then post a sensationalist story like this that uses youtube uploader comments as a source.
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On May 03 2012 03:07 ecstatica wrote:
By the way, if some of you have ever done drugs, esp synthetic shit like meth or ecstasy, you should know how much of a stress it puts on your body. This moron basically severely injured himself in the most moronic manner.
I'm no doctor but tell you what, when you've ingested a drug, any drug, and have no liquid with which to piss it out, it's probably gonna fuck your kidneys because "They serve the body as a natural filter of the blood, and remove wastes which are diverted to the urinary bladder." according to our lord wiki.
Taking ecstasy is going to put no more pressure on your system than an all day hike. Horse riding kills more people in the UK than ecstasy. Meth is similar but has stronger physically addictive properties.
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Sensationalist article. Of course he'll win millions, the judicial system is shit. He wasn't FORCED to drink his piss (it's worse than drinking nothing anyway); he wasn't FORCED to eat meth off the floor.
Idiot who left him there should get fired. All medical bills, present and future (relating to the incident) should be covered. Give him a few thousand cash. He doesn't deserve fucking MILLIONS of dollars from TAXPAYERS just cause 1 man fucked up. No. Fucking. Way. This isn't suing nutella cutting into some megaconglomerate's profit margin, any money he wins in a lawsuit comes from us directly.
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On May 03 2012 08:02 Audemed wrote:
Sensationalist article. Of course he'll win millions, the judicial system is shit. He wasn't FORCED to drink his piss (it's worse than drinking nothing anyway); he wasn't FORCED to eat meth off the floor.
Idiot who left him there should get fired. All medical bills, present and future (relating to the incident) should be covered. Give him a few thousand cash. He doesn't deserve fucking MILLIONS of dollars from TAXPAYERS just cause 1 man fucked up. No. Fucking. Way. This isn't suing nutella cutting into some megaconglomerate's profit margin, any money he wins in a lawsuit comes from us directly.
Right cause he had a choice. If no one came to assist me for five days I would do anything I can to survive.You will be surprised how different you are when you are dehydrated. Hunger isn't that big of an issue in comparison to your body lacking fluids. He obviously felt threatened to the point where he went survival mode (although I am somewhat shaky ont he whole meth part) He was neglected...for 5 fucking days. He was caught smoking marijuana (he had possession I believe). The DEAs even said they wouldn't criminally charge him and even offered him a ride home after the whole process.
I do not care what they say or do because how incompetent do you have to be to forget someone for 5 days. They caught 7 people and processed 6 people either to transfer to different facilities or releasing them...
edit: btw can anyone explain how the hell he "found" meth in a DEA prison cell...I mean...that is about mind boggling as him being neglected...
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Wow...this is sad. There is really not much more to say than the fact that there was a MAJOR oversight almost cost the life of someone. I think that the DEA should make sure he is taken care of the rest of his life and that it about it. What else could be done at this point other than internal reviews of their actions as well to prevent this in the future.
I am sure that whoever dropped the ball on this one feels like a complete douchebag as well. Well, good luck to the victim for the future. Whatever crimes or sins he may have committed in his life, he has paid for them it sounds like. I just hope that the DEA and others involved can learn from such shitty situations.
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I'm going to say the moral of the story is to not take drugs. Unfortunately, I'm probably he minority here on TL, as most people seem to use them. :/
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Poor guy. What he did didn't deserve the poor fate that was brought to him. Good fucking oversight from the DEA... Way to be so unprofessional that one guy almost died...
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How do they not regularly check their cells or have someone within hearing distance of the cell (assuming he yelled at some point..). Or even clean their cells after people are released (meth on the floor? hello?).
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