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Then go make a licencing deal if they're really worried about it. It worked for Microsoft. Anyway, Apple doesn't have a patient on pinch to zoom so to speak, they have a patient on a specific application of it.
The reason Samsung got targeted is because they were, by far, the easiest target. Apple might throw words out there but they've never bothered targeting, say, Palm's WebOS because there really isn't enough to sue over and not really any point doing so.
I'm not a huge fan of The Verge but they very correctly pointed out that to see how Samsung dug itself into the position it is in today, you have to see the overall picture and not just focus on individual patients.
*If you want to argue that this suffocates innovation, I don't see how Samsung is innovating anything besides OLED. Any decent application of anything comes from Google as far as I am concerned.
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Ok I get it, but why wasn't he banned for that post. Why did he get banned for an opinion post instead? The way this site works is such a mystery to me.
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On August 25 2012 11:55 aeroblaster wrote:Ok I get it, but why wasn't he banned for that post. Why did he get banned for an opinion post instead? The way this site works is such a mystery to me.
He got banned for that post but the ban reason was for his posting history. He was given a chance to change his ways and well...he didn't. His first post back was more of the same useless corporate Korean cheerleading trash.
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On August 25 2012 11:57 Womwomwom wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 11:55 aeroblaster wrote:Ok I get it, but why wasn't he banned for that post. Why did he get banned for an opinion post instead? The way this site works is such a mystery to me. He got banned for that post but the ban reason was for his posting history. He was given a chance to change his ways and well...he didn't. His first post back was more of the same useless corporate Korean cheerleading trash.
Basically that. Sort of like how you would look at a repeat offender differently from a first-time offender kind of thing, in other words.
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Also be careful when you're applying updates.
I'm actually flashing CM10 and it made me bootloop...so yeah...be careful if you don't want a $600 brick on you hands. You can hold volume up, home button, then power button to go into recovery mode if you have clockwork recovery. That saved me from having to sbf and whatnot ;___;
However I managed to flash it and let me tell you, you are really unleashing the full potential and awesomeness of the phone when you do so. Touchwiz isn't bad per se, but stock is just BEAUTIFUL (just my personal opinion) and amazing. Cheers :D
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On August 25 2012 10:49 Womwomwom wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 09:59 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Now watch as Apple goes after the Tablets. That only kind of worked with Samsung's Galaxy Tab devices, which basically looked like a Samsung iPad together with the thin dock connector. I believe the dock connector is even the same, just the pins are wired differently. You're not going to get Apple suing the Nexus 7 to death because they're not remotely alike in terms of hardware and aesthetics. Just like how Sony probably isn't going to get sued over hardware design because Sony is pretty good at designing distinct rectangles. I'm not surprised Apple is so aggressive and that Apple won. You have to be blind to not see how similar the early Galaxy devices were to the early iPhones, especially in UI design. Obviously the jury didn't have trouble seeing the overall similarity. Fender and Gibson had quite a hard time during the early 70s and 80s with German and Japanese manufacturers copying their design and selling it for cheaper. For people who couldn't afford, say, a Gibson, you could go and buy a German or Japanese guitar that looked exactly the same and look cool in the process. It probably sounded a little bit worse but that doesn't matter because its still a very playable guitar. I believe Fender took so long to sue companies over the now ubiquitous Stratocaster design (a very attractive and ergonomic design...you could say that its an obvious design) that it was basically thrown out of court because it became so ubiquitous. So its not unsurprising that Apple is suing quickly and early.
you never know.. next apple will patent the rights to eat apples around the world..
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Rooting is like giving yourself administrator rights on your phone. What Aerisky is describing is similar to installing a different OS on your phone.
Both break your warranty. Rooting is less 'risky/scary' to do as there is almost 0 risk of bricking your phone. Flashing a new ROM does indeed involve some risk but as long as you follow the instructions carefully you should be fine.
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It's actually volume UP, home button, then power button to boot into recovery. Sorry about that.
There are some thinks such as flickering but hot dayum CM10 and Jelly Bean are AMAZING. I'm also on leankernel v0.7. If you want to flash CM10, be warned that the 8/25 and 8/24 nightlies are bad and you want to go with either 8/22 or 8/23 (which are exactly the same). You truly aren't experiencing Android as it was meant to be experience imo unless you're on CM10 or AOKP.
And yeah basically what firebolt says. Rooting gives you "root" (root of the phone sort of idea) or administrator rights, and flashing a ROM is installing basically a new OS. It's not purely aesthetic which is why you should be careful if something goes awry (if it's not compatible with your hardware etc. and you "brick" your phone meaning you turn it into nothing more than a brick or paperweight lol).
After you root, however, a locked or signed bootloader can prevent you from booting up another ROM because you have to go through it before you can boot up your phone (derp  ). The verizon variant was locked before. However, if you want to flash ROMs it is now easily possible because the bootloader has been unlocked, and there is a simple app called EZ unlocker or something. You don't have to worry about a bootloader if you're on any other variant though.
Won't get too in depth because there are tech forums and/or tech support for that kind of stuff, but yeah this is fantastic :3
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Aerisky waaaay too much jargon there for the group your advice seems to be targeting
krndandaman, I'll try to explain. Google is the developer of Android, they design it and release it. This is called 'stock' android, which is the barebone experience that Google designed it to have. They release this stock version to all the smartphone manufacturers, who then take it and alter it their own way. This is why a basic out-of-the-box HTC smartphone looks different to a Samsung smartphone, which looks different to a Sony Ericsson smartphone, etc. Not only do they look different, but the manufacturers tend to also throw in a bunch of their own software which aren't always useful.
There are many online developers which take these ROMs and further customise/alter them. The ROM Aerisky is talking about is called CyanogenMod, which is a famous ROM for being as close to the stock Google experience as possible while adding additional useful features such as allowing themes. They are also porting the next version of Android to phones before the manufacturers have released official versions.
To make the roll of developers clearer, let's imagine different versions of android = different versions of windows, and that the new Metro from windows 8 is amazing and everyone wants it.
- All computers are on windows 7
- Microsoft releases windows 8 to computer manufacturers so the manufacturers can alter it for their computer
- CM team says 'screw you, I'm not waiting' and ports it themselves so consumers can immediately upgrade, enjoy Metro right away and avoid the long wait that manufacturers will inevitably take
In this case, the latest version of Android is called Jelly Bean. Samsung is currently working on releasing it by the end of September. CM have had it out for the last month or so.
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Yeah the sign of noob (relatively speaking) is not being able to explain everything clearly and concisely. To be honest I'm not too knowledeable and don't understand everything that well--I just know the fundamentals.
Basically what firebolt said again. :D
The greatness about the ROM in a nutshell is that Jelly Bean (the update of the OS on which CyanogenMod is based) is actually a fantastic OS update (unlike Win8 potshot ;o), and it's superior to Ice Cream Sandwich (the code name for the current latest version that you see on the S3).
What's so great about Jelly Bean? You could google Jelly Bean features, but it essentially looks better, performs more smoothly, and includes a variety of tune-ups and applications (one of them is "Google Now" you can look that up too, pretty sweet). There's also something called Project Butter which helps make performance even better and everything really smooth--buttery smooth. However we have to wait for Samsung to release their own version of Jelly Bean because they have to mess with the connection between the hardware and software, which only Samsung engineers can realistically do in a short amount of time.
The essential difference between ROMs is that they can look fundamentally different, perform differently, have different features and the screen is laid out differently.
Oh also, Touchwiz is Samsung's custom version of the OS. Each manufacturer (HTC, Motorola, Samsung, LG, etc) has their own take on each OS update, in order to better differentiate their brand. Not only the phone itself but the OS and aesthetics of the OS are different because Samsung wants to put their own style on it and whatnot. Hope that helped
Are you planning on getting a smartphone or upgrading to an S3? It's really pretty damn slick. :3
If you want a huge phone the Galaxy Note 2 is coming out (not bad, should be a decent upgrade from the Note). Also the iPhone 5 is going to be announced soon and you might be interested in that. In my humble opinion you should probably wait a bit. If you wait, the price of the phone will drop, and the ROMs we're talking about will get more stable in case you do decide to root and mess around with it.
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Yeah, Go Launcher is pretty slick. My personal fave is Apex it's up to personal taste--they're all pretty great.
A cool thing about Android is that you don't have to root to get almost any app for free (extremely easily too). Not that I support pirating everything, and of course if you like an app, buy it to support the developer(!!), but...yeah.
And yup, you don't necessarily need to root to be able to do lots of customization :>
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Go Launcher is more of a Gingerbread based launcher, which is 'so last year' for me. But yes, I did use it for about a year or two
Now I also use Apex Launcher, which is based upon the new Icecream/Jelly bean layout.
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On August 27 2012 15:29 Firebolt145 wrote:Go Launcher is more of a Gingerbread based launcher, which is 'so last year' for me. But yes, I did use it for about a year or two Now I also use Apex Launcher, which is based upon the new Icecream/Jelly bean layout.
You should actually jelly bean, project butter ftw
I've got a nexus one running jellybean, it's actually pretty darn sweet, google around and you can probably find a jellybean ROM for your device, nexus one JB is here.
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We're on the Galaxy S3, and yes there are JB roms available already, but no they do not have project butter, because we have to wait for Samsung to release drivers. Project Butter uses your GPU to help you draw everything and make it smoother (VSync and triple buffering). Without the drivers from Samsung, we won't be able to use Project Butter, afaik.
Which begs the question: why is the Nexus One able to take advantage of it but dev teams have to wait for a release from Samsung with proper drivers for the S3 to be able to implement project butter? I don't know the answer to that lol, maybe we don't actually have to wait for a release from Samsung? No idea but I'm quite sure AOKP and CM10 do not yet have Project Butter :S
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The funny thing is I actually only have a S2.
Aerisky: it's because the S2 and S3 have completely different hardware from the Nexus.
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Oh whoops sorry, didn't know you have an S2
I mean, what are we waiting for exactly? Samsung to release a JB OTA so developers can look at how they implement Project Butter, if I'm interpreting this correctly. But what about the Nexus One, which came out in January of 2010--HTC has never released anything in terms of JB for the N1. Were its essential drivers picked apart, and if so, why can't the same happen for the S3? The GNex is on an OMAP chip (so PowerVR GPU), while the N1 has a qualcomm processor and adreno 200 iirc. The NA variant of the S3 has a qualcomm cpu and processor while the international version has an exynos chip with a Mali-400 GPU. What allows the Nexus One to get JB but not S3 is what I'm confused about :<
Edit: yeah I can't find one either, but there are xda forum posts where people say that it is more responsive and snappy in response to people asking whether project butter works. I just took his word for it on that one :X
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Can you find a source where the Nexus One has Jelly bean AND Project butter working? I can't find one.
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