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Hey guys! We'll be closing this thread shortly, but we will make an American politics megathread where we can continue the discussions in here.

The new thread can be found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383301
ey215
Profile Joined June 2010
United States546 Posts
October 25 2012 02:10 GMT
#20681
On October 25 2012 10:46 nevermindthebollocks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 09:19 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On October 25 2012 08:44 aksfjh wrote:
Parallel is my homeboy. Also, seems like that Intrade nonsense is finally rebounding. Obama is back into the 60s.


Nate Silver's articles are pretty powerful (and informative). I love that guy.

i like how people were all talking about the polls when romney went up because of some bad days and now that it is almost back to even or obama is back ahead in all of them the polls no longer matter. now we are back to demanding college transcripts


And xDaunt with impeccable timing as usual.

On October 25 2012 11:08 xDaunt wrote:
Are we feeling the imminent blowout yet?

Show nested quote +
Foster McCollum White Baydoun (FMW)B, a national public opinion polling and voter analytics consulting firm based in Michigan and representing the combined resources of Foster McCollum White & Associates (Troy Michigan) and Baydoun Consulting (Dearborn Michigan) conducted a telephone-automated polling random survey of Michigan registered and most likely November 2012 General election voters for Fox 2 News Detroit to determine their voting and issue preferences for the presidential election.

An initial qualifying statement was read to respondents asking them to participate only if they were very likely to vote in the November General Election.

Thirty five thousand (35,000) calls were placed, and 1,122 respondents fully participated in the survey. The margin of error for this total polling sample is 2.93% with a confidence level of 95%.

The 2012 United States Presidential election will be held on November 6, 2012. Who are you most likely to vote for in the election?

President Barack Obama 46.92%
Republican Nominee Mitt Romney 46.56%
another candidate 2.30%
Undecided 4.23%


Source.


lol Fox post in 3... 2...
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 02:18:11
October 25 2012 02:15 GMT
#20682
On October 25 2012 11:08 xDaunt wrote:
Are we feeling the imminent blowout yet?

Show nested quote +
Foster McCollum White Baydoun (FMW)B, a national public opinion polling and voter analytics consulting firm based in Michigan and representing the combined resources of Foster McCollum White & Associates (Troy Michigan) and Baydoun Consulting (Dearborn Michigan) conducted a telephone-automated polling random survey of Michigan registered and most likely November 2012 General election voters for Fox 2 News Detroit to determine their voting and issue preferences for the presidential election.

An initial qualifying statement was read to respondents asking them to participate only if they were very likely to vote in the November General Election.

Thirty five thousand (35,000) calls were placed, and 1,122 respondents fully participated in the survey. The margin of error for this total polling sample is 2.93% with a confidence level of 95%.

The 2012 United States Presidential election will be held on November 6, 2012. Who are you most likely to vote for in the election?

President Barack Obama 46.92%
Republican Nominee Mitt Romney 46.56%
another candidate 2.30%
Undecided 4.23%


Source.


6 people were interviewed in a verbal study conducted by ticklishmusic in the study room. Of the 6, 2 declined to participate. 3 of the remainder indicated that they intended to vote for Obama, while the last one indicated that she would vote for Ron Paul, before admitting she was Swedish and only 17 years old.

Obama: 75%
Paul: 25%
Romney: 0%

This indicates a severe threat of Romney losing the state of Georgia and really fucking up his strategy of winning the electoral college.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 02:23:58
October 25 2012 02:17 GMT
#20683
On October 25 2012 11:08 xDaunt wrote:
Are we feeling the imminent blowout yet?

Show nested quote +
Foster McCollum White Baydoun (FMW)B, a national public opinion polling and voter analytics consulting firm based in Michigan and representing the combined resources of Foster McCollum White & Associates (Troy Michigan) and Baydoun Consulting (Dearborn Michigan) conducted a telephone-automated polling random survey of Michigan registered and most likely November 2012 General election voters for Fox 2 News Detroit to determine their voting and issue preferences for the presidential election.

An initial qualifying statement was read to respondents asking them to participate only if they were very likely to vote in the November General Election.

Thirty five thousand (35,000) calls were placed, and 1,122 respondents fully participated in the survey. The margin of error for this total polling sample is 2.93% with a confidence level of 95%.

The 2012 United States Presidential election will be held on November 6, 2012. Who are you most likely to vote for in the election?

President Barack Obama 46.92%
Republican Nominee Mitt Romney 46.56%
another candidate 2.30%
Undecided 4.23%


Source.


So you're saying a poll conducted by a firm put Obama ahead? Oh no he'll lose! What's their past reliability? Do they have a history of partisan leaning? How reliable is their methodology? Perhaps most importantly, who did their results a week, two weeks, and a month ago show leading the race?

I mean c'mon, you don't see me posting the +3 SurveyUSA Obama poll in Ohio for all those reasons.

Edit: I just googled that polling firm. They had a FL poll putting Romney 14 points ahead in August...wat.
nevermindthebollocks
Profile Joined October 2012
United States116 Posts
October 25 2012 02:20 GMT
#20684
Hey check this out. When you get away from fox news and get an unbiased view of who is better this is the result

[image loading]

single digits in almost every country for romney sounds about right
Anarchy!
mynameisgreat11
Profile Joined February 2012
599 Posts
October 25 2012 02:20 GMT
#20685
Don't take the xDaunt bait.
mynameisgreat11
Profile Joined February 2012
599 Posts
October 25 2012 02:21 GMT
#20686
On October 25 2012 11:20 nevermindthebollocks wrote:
Hey check this out. When you get away from fox news and get an unbiased view of who is better this is the result

[image loading]

single digits in almost every country for romney sounds about right


Looks like Pakistan didn't like the way Obama pronounced their country's name.
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
October 25 2012 02:22 GMT
#20687
On October 25 2012 11:20 nevermindthebollocks wrote:
Hey check this out. When you get away from fox news and get an unbiased view of who is better this is the result

[image loading]

single digits in almost every country for romney sounds about right

WTF at Pakistan. I guess they're screwed either way though...
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
October 25 2012 02:22 GMT
#20688
On October 25 2012 11:08 xDaunt wrote:
Are we feeling the imminent blowout yet?

Show nested quote +
Foster McCollum White Baydoun (FMW)B, a national public opinion polling and voter analytics consulting firm based in Michigan and representing the combined resources of Foster McCollum White & Associates (Troy Michigan) and Baydoun Consulting (Dearborn Michigan) conducted a telephone-automated polling random survey of Michigan registered and most likely November 2012 General election voters for Fox 2 News Detroit to determine their voting and issue preferences for the presidential election.

An initial qualifying statement was read to respondents asking them to participate only if they were very likely to vote in the November General Election.

Thirty five thousand (35,000) calls were placed, and 1,122 respondents fully participated in the survey. The margin of error for this total polling sample is 2.93% with a confidence level of 95%.

The 2012 United States Presidential election will be held on November 6, 2012. Who are you most likely to vote for in the election?

President Barack Obama 46.92%
Republican Nominee Mitt Romney 46.56%
another candidate 2.30%
Undecided 4.23%


Source.

The fact the it came from fox makes it look unreliable to my eye, but Obama has a lead even in their poll
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 25 2012 02:24 GMT
#20689
On October 25 2012 11:17 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 11:08 xDaunt wrote:
Are we feeling the imminent blowout yet?

Foster McCollum White Baydoun (FMW)B, a national public opinion polling and voter analytics consulting firm based in Michigan and representing the combined resources of Foster McCollum White & Associates (Troy Michigan) and Baydoun Consulting (Dearborn Michigan) conducted a telephone-automated polling random survey of Michigan registered and most likely November 2012 General election voters for Fox 2 News Detroit to determine their voting and issue preferences for the presidential election.

An initial qualifying statement was read to respondents asking them to participate only if they were very likely to vote in the November General Election.

Thirty five thousand (35,000) calls were placed, and 1,122 respondents fully participated in the survey. The margin of error for this total polling sample is 2.93% with a confidence level of 95%.

The 2012 United States Presidential election will be held on November 6, 2012. Who are you most likely to vote for in the election?

President Barack Obama 46.92%
Republican Nominee Mitt Romney 46.56%
another candidate 2.30%
Undecided 4.23%


Source.


So you're saying a poll conducted by a firm put Obama ahead? Oh no he'll lose! What's their past reliability? Do they have a history of partisan leaning? How reliable is their methodology? Perhaps most importantly, who did their results a week, two weeks, and a month ago show leading the race?

I mean c'mon, you don't see me posting the +3 Obama poll in Ohio for all those reasons.

Polls with ties below 50% are bad for incumbents, because undecideds tend to break for challengers. More importantly, this is Michigan, which should be solid blue Obama territory. Same with Pennsylvania. Romney is getting huge, unexpected support in these states with minimal to no expenditures of resources (more recently his campaign has been advertising in these states). All of Obama's efforts to keep Ohio won't matter if he loses these other states, and it is looking increasingly like he will. The movement over the past month unmistakably favors Romney.

Again, I think that the numbers are going to continue to drift towards Romney.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 02:27:19
October 25 2012 02:25 GMT
#20690
On October 25 2012 11:24 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 11:17 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On October 25 2012 11:08 xDaunt wrote:
Are we feeling the imminent blowout yet?

Foster McCollum White Baydoun (FMW)B, a national public opinion polling and voter analytics consulting firm based in Michigan and representing the combined resources of Foster McCollum White & Associates (Troy Michigan) and Baydoun Consulting (Dearborn Michigan) conducted a telephone-automated polling random survey of Michigan registered and most likely November 2012 General election voters for Fox 2 News Detroit to determine their voting and issue preferences for the presidential election.

An initial qualifying statement was read to respondents asking them to participate only if they were very likely to vote in the November General Election.

Thirty five thousand (35,000) calls were placed, and 1,122 respondents fully participated in the survey. The margin of error for this total polling sample is 2.93% with a confidence level of 95%.

The 2012 United States Presidential election will be held on November 6, 2012. Who are you most likely to vote for in the election?

President Barack Obama 46.92%
Republican Nominee Mitt Romney 46.56%
another candidate 2.30%
Undecided 4.23%


Source.


So you're saying a poll conducted by a firm put Obama ahead? Oh no he'll lose! What's their past reliability? Do they have a history of partisan leaning? How reliable is their methodology? Perhaps most importantly, who did their results a week, two weeks, and a month ago show leading the race?

I mean c'mon, you don't see me posting the +3 Obama poll in Ohio for all those reasons.

Polls with ties below 50% are bad for incumbents, because undecideds tend to break for challengers. More importantly, this is Michigan, which should be solid blue Obama territory. Same with Pennsylvania. Romney is getting huge, unexpected support in these states with minimal to no expenditures of resources (more recently his campaign has been advertising in these states). All of Obama's efforts to keep Ohio won't matter if he loses these other states, and it is looking increasingly like he will. The movement over the past month unmistakably favors Romney.

Again, I think that the numbers are going to continue to drift towards Romney.


Their last poll of WI had Romney ahead by 4%. It's a gain for Obama over time. There's also not substantial evidence undecideds break for the challenger in presidential elections this late in the race.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/22/do-presidential-polls-break-toward-challengers/
ey215
Profile Joined June 2010
United States546 Posts
October 25 2012 02:26 GMT
#20691
On October 25 2012 11:22 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 11:08 xDaunt wrote:
Are we feeling the imminent blowout yet?

Foster McCollum White Baydoun (FMW)B, a national public opinion polling and voter analytics consulting firm based in Michigan and representing the combined resources of Foster McCollum White & Associates (Troy Michigan) and Baydoun Consulting (Dearborn Michigan) conducted a telephone-automated polling random survey of Michigan registered and most likely November 2012 General election voters for Fox 2 News Detroit to determine their voting and issue preferences for the presidential election.

An initial qualifying statement was read to respondents asking them to participate only if they were very likely to vote in the November General Election.

Thirty five thousand (35,000) calls were placed, and 1,122 respondents fully participated in the survey. The margin of error for this total polling sample is 2.93% with a confidence level of 95%.

The 2012 United States Presidential election will be held on November 6, 2012. Who are you most likely to vote for in the election?

President Barack Obama 46.92%
Republican Nominee Mitt Romney 46.56%
another candidate 2.30%
Undecided 4.23%


Source.

The fact the it came from fox makes it look unreliable to my eye, but Obama has a lead even in their poll


And there it is...

RCP has the polling firm listed as (D) next to it's name. That does mean what I think it means right?
BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
October 25 2012 02:26 GMT
#20692
On October 25 2012 11:20 nevermindthebollocks wrote:
Hey check this out. When you get away from fox news and get an unbiased view of who is better this is the result

[image loading]

single digits in almost every country for romney sounds about right


I'm sorry, but this thread has shown several times that Canada is probably the only country that has citizens that understand American politics even remotely well (and even then it's pretty shoddy when you get the the nuances). The rest of the world just hates republicans because they like to hate Bush. True Story.
ThreeAcross
Profile Joined January 2011
172 Posts
October 25 2012 02:28 GMT
#20693
On October 25 2012 11:22 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 11:08 xDaunt wrote:
Are we feeling the imminent blowout yet?

Foster McCollum White Baydoun (FMW)B, a national public opinion polling and voter analytics consulting firm based in Michigan and representing the combined resources of Foster McCollum White & Associates (Troy Michigan) and Baydoun Consulting (Dearborn Michigan) conducted a telephone-automated polling random survey of Michigan registered and most likely November 2012 General election voters for Fox 2 News Detroit to determine their voting and issue preferences for the presidential election.

An initial qualifying statement was read to respondents asking them to participate only if they were very likely to vote in the November General Election.

Thirty five thousand (35,000) calls were placed, and 1,122 respondents fully participated in the survey. The margin of error for this total polling sample is 2.93% with a confidence level of 95%.

The 2012 United States Presidential election will be held on November 6, 2012. Who are you most likely to vote for in the election?

President Barack Obama 46.92%
Republican Nominee Mitt Romney 46.56%
another candidate 2.30%
Undecided 4.23%


Source.

The fact the it came from fox makes it look unreliable to my eye, but Obama has a lead even in their poll


Local Fox =/= Fox News.

It is an interesting poll because Michigan has always been expected to be an Obama state. The fact that it is polling this close is surprising.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 02:29:09
October 25 2012 02:28 GMT
#20694
On October 25 2012 11:20 nevermindthebollocks wrote:
Hey check this out. When you get away from fox news and get an unbiased view of who is better this is the result

[image loading]

single digits in almost every country for romney sounds about right


Not surprised at pakistan. Sending a kill team after somebody on a sovereign nation's soil, regardless of him being world's most wanted is not going to make people happy. I'd think the statistics are pretty correct though on how foreigners would vote(if they could) though.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 25 2012 02:29 GMT
#20695
On October 25 2012 11:26 ey215 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 11:22 Jaaaaasper wrote:
On October 25 2012 11:08 xDaunt wrote:
Are we feeling the imminent blowout yet?

Foster McCollum White Baydoun (FMW)B, a national public opinion polling and voter analytics consulting firm based in Michigan and representing the combined resources of Foster McCollum White & Associates (Troy Michigan) and Baydoun Consulting (Dearborn Michigan) conducted a telephone-automated polling random survey of Michigan registered and most likely November 2012 General election voters for Fox 2 News Detroit to determine their voting and issue preferences for the presidential election.

An initial qualifying statement was read to respondents asking them to participate only if they were very likely to vote in the November General Election.

Thirty five thousand (35,000) calls were placed, and 1,122 respondents fully participated in the survey. The margin of error for this total polling sample is 2.93% with a confidence level of 95%.

The 2012 United States Presidential election will be held on November 6, 2012. Who are you most likely to vote for in the election?

President Barack Obama 46.92%
Republican Nominee Mitt Romney 46.56%
another candidate 2.30%
Undecided 4.23%


Source.

The fact the it came from fox makes it look unreliable to my eye, but Obama has a lead even in their poll


And there it is...

RCP has the polling firm listed as (D) next to it's name. That does mean what I think it means right?

Reading comprehension isn't so good around here. Not only did Fox News not do the poll, but Fox News did not release the story....
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 02:30:54
October 25 2012 02:29 GMT
#20696
On October 25 2012 11:28 ThreeAcross wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 11:22 Jaaaaasper wrote:
On October 25 2012 11:08 xDaunt wrote:
Are we feeling the imminent blowout yet?

Foster McCollum White Baydoun (FMW)B, a national public opinion polling and voter analytics consulting firm based in Michigan and representing the combined resources of Foster McCollum White & Associates (Troy Michigan) and Baydoun Consulting (Dearborn Michigan) conducted a telephone-automated polling random survey of Michigan registered and most likely November 2012 General election voters for Fox 2 News Detroit to determine their voting and issue preferences for the presidential election.

An initial qualifying statement was read to respondents asking them to participate only if they were very likely to vote in the November General Election.

Thirty five thousand (35,000) calls were placed, and 1,122 respondents fully participated in the survey. The margin of error for this total polling sample is 2.93% with a confidence level of 95%.

The 2012 United States Presidential election will be held on November 6, 2012. Who are you most likely to vote for in the election?

President Barack Obama 46.92%
Republican Nominee Mitt Romney 46.56%
another candidate 2.30%
Undecided 4.23%


Source.

The fact the it came from fox makes it look unreliable to my eye, but Obama has a lead even in their poll


Local Fox =/= Fox News.

It is an interesting poll because Michigan has always been expected to be an Obama state. The fact that it is polling this close is surprising.


Even in August (before Ryan was introduced when Obama was a total shoe-in in the state) this polling firm showed a 4% Romney lead.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/21/mi-2012-president-48-romn_n_1819592.html

I'd hold my breath till I see enough polls to gauge this.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
October 25 2012 02:30 GMT
#20697
On October 25 2012 11:08 xDaunt wrote:
Are we feeling the imminent blowout yet?

Show nested quote +
Foster McCollum White Baydoun (FMW)B, a national public opinion polling and voter analytics consulting firm based in Michigan and representing the combined resources of Foster McCollum White & Associates (Troy Michigan) and Baydoun Consulting (Dearborn Michigan) conducted a telephone-automated polling random survey of Michigan registered and most likely November 2012 General election voters for Fox 2 News Detroit to determine their voting and issue preferences for the presidential election.

An initial qualifying statement was read to respondents asking them to participate only if they were very likely to vote in the November General Election.

Thirty five thousand (35,000) calls were placed, and 1,122 respondents fully participated in the survey. The margin of error for this total polling sample is 2.93% with a confidence level of 95%.

The 2012 United States Presidential election will be held on November 6, 2012. Who are you most likely to vote for in the election?

President Barack Obama 46.92%
Republican Nominee Mitt Romney 46.56%
another candidate 2.30%
Undecided 4.23%


Source.


As long as Romney has FLorida, it will be close.


http://www.politico.com/2012-election/swing-state/?hp=l7
TotalBalanceSC2
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada475 Posts
October 25 2012 02:31 GMT
#20698
On October 25 2012 11:26 BluePanther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 11:20 nevermindthebollocks wrote:
Hey check this out. When you get away from fox news and get an unbiased view of who is better this is the result

[image loading]

single digits in almost every country for romney sounds about right


I'm sorry, but this thread has shown several times that Canada is probably the only country that has citizens that understand American politics even remotely well (and even then it's pretty shoddy when you get the the nuances). The rest of the world just hates republicans because they like to hate Bush. True Story.


I think you would be surprised how well the average Canadian student understands American politics. I can tell you from expereince that we practically learn more about your political system then ours in civics class.
mynameisgreat11
Profile Joined February 2012
599 Posts
October 25 2012 02:31 GMT
#20699
You guys should let xDaunt have his fun. He only has a couple more weeks to pretend.
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
October 25 2012 02:32 GMT
#20700
On October 25 2012 11:31 mynameisgreat11 wrote:
You guys should let xDaunt have his fun. He only has a couple more weeks to pretend.


To pretend that Obama still has a chance?
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