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Hey guys! We'll be closing this thread shortly, but we will make an American politics megathread where we can continue the discussions in here.

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Swazi Spring
Profile Joined September 2012
United States415 Posts
October 24 2012 23:00 GMT
#20641
On October 25 2012 07:57 paralleluniverse wrote:
An ATHEIST? A rational, scientifically minded person... scary shit.

Because Christians can't be rational or scientifically minded...
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 23:03:02
October 24 2012 23:01 GMT
#20642
On October 25 2012 07:50 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 07:35 DannyJ wrote:
Why would it inevitably come out that he's an atheist?


Do you think he - or anyone - could keep a secret like that through 15 years of campaigning for public office?


We obviously have a different mindset on the issue. I don't see what would be so hard about keeping that secret, nor do i see why you think 15 years of campaigning isnt EXACTLY when you would and could keep that "secret". It's not like pretending to be religious would eat away at the soul of someone who isn't. He's not pretending to be a pedophile to get some position.

And of course we certainly can't know anything about what he really thinks since we can't read someones mind.
radiatoren
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Denmark1907 Posts
October 24 2012 23:08 GMT
#20643
On October 25 2012 08:00 Swazi Spring wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 07:57 paralleluniverse wrote:
An ATHEIST? A rational, scientifically minded person... scary shit.

Because Christians can't be rational or scientifically minded...

Not really close to what he said.
Atheist in most secular western countries is almost a must to get elected. Religion is seen as something you should keep out of political discussion as far as possible. Religion is personal and private and it is not seen as something particularly attractive.

Calling atheism something bad is pretty deranged with the above in mind
Repeat before me
Swazi Spring
Profile Joined September 2012
United States415 Posts
October 24 2012 23:10 GMT
#20644
On October 25 2012 08:08 radiatoren wrote:
Atheist in most secular western countries is almost a must to get elected

The Christian Democratic Union just won the last federal election in Germany...
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
October 24 2012 23:17 GMT
#20645
Don't you just love it when people throw out some minority examples to try and discredit a bigger trend?
Writer
Swazi Spring
Profile Joined September 2012
United States415 Posts
October 24 2012 23:20 GMT
#20646
On October 25 2012 08:17 Souma wrote:
Don't you just love it when people throw out some minority examples to try and discredit a bigger trend?

Are you referring to me or radiatoren?
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
October 24 2012 23:21 GMT
#20647
On October 25 2012 08:20 Swazi Spring wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 08:17 Souma wrote:
Don't you just love it when people throw out some minority examples to try and discredit a bigger trend?

Are you referring to me or radiatoren?


I'm referring to anyone who does it.
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Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
October 24 2012 23:28 GMT
#20648
On October 25 2012 07:57 paralleluniverse wrote:
An ATHEIST? A rational, scientifically minded person... scary shit.


I think the problem is that most voters think that religion is needed for a person to have morality.
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
October 24 2012 23:30 GMT
#20649
On October 25 2012 04:35 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 04:18 Swazi Spring wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
George W. Bush
* Son of president George H. W. Bush.
* Governor of Texas.
* Military veteran.


Bill Clinton
* Governor of Arkansas.
* Attorney General of Arkansas.


George H. W. Bush
* Vice President of the United States.
* Director of the CIA.
* Chairman of the Republican National Committee.
* United States Ambassador to the United Nations.
* United States Ambassador to the People's Republic of China.
* Member of the US House of Representatives.
* Military veteran.


Ronald Reagan
* Governor of California.
* Campaign assistant to Barry Goldwater.
* Military veteran.
* Famous actor.


Jimmy Carter
* Governor of Georgia.
* Member of the Georgia Senate.
* Military veteran.


Gerald Ford
* Vice President of the United States.
* US House of Representatives Minority Leader
* Member of the US House of Representatives.
* Military veteran.



Now lets look at Barack Obama...
* 1 incomplete term as US Senator.
* Member of the Illinois Senate.

parallelluniverse
*Seemingly liberal
*Aussie economics guy
*Large number of substantive posts backing his position in his own words

I hope you're joking, paralleluniverse is anything BUT a supporter of Austrian economics :p In fact, he's been doing a tremendous job debunking pretty much all of their claims in this thread.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
October 24 2012 23:32 GMT
#20650
is this thread about the election or atheism/christianity? :s
I hope we're not stuck with another 4 years of Obama in office
Cheers
jaedong imba
Resnov
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1 Post
October 24 2012 23:33 GMT
#20651
Romney
~Nothing like a bit of Starcraft~
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
October 24 2012 23:35 GMT
#20652
On October 25 2012 08:30 kwizach wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 04:35 farvacola wrote:
On October 25 2012 04:18 Swazi Spring wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
George W. Bush
* Son of president George H. W. Bush.
* Governor of Texas.
* Military veteran.


Bill Clinton
* Governor of Arkansas.
* Attorney General of Arkansas.


George H. W. Bush
* Vice President of the United States.
* Director of the CIA.
* Chairman of the Republican National Committee.
* United States Ambassador to the United Nations.
* United States Ambassador to the People's Republic of China.
* Member of the US House of Representatives.
* Military veteran.


Ronald Reagan
* Governor of California.
* Campaign assistant to Barry Goldwater.
* Military veteran.
* Famous actor.


Jimmy Carter
* Governor of Georgia.
* Member of the Georgia Senate.
* Military veteran.


Gerald Ford
* Vice President of the United States.
* US House of Representatives Minority Leader
* Member of the US House of Representatives.
* Military veteran.



Now lets look at Barack Obama...
* 1 incomplete term as US Senator.
* Member of the Illinois Senate.

parallelluniverse
*Seemingly liberal
*Aussie economics guy
*Large number of substantive posts backing his position in his own words

I hope you're joking, paralleluniverse is anything BUT a supporter of Austrian economics :p In fact, he's been doing a tremendous job debunking pretty much all of their claims in this thread.


He meant parallel's Australian, not an Austrian economist.
Writer
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
October 24 2012 23:44 GMT
#20653
Parallel is my homeboy. Also, seems like that Intrade nonsense is finally rebounding. Obama is back into the 60s.
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 23:50:15
October 24 2012 23:49 GMT
#20654
On October 25 2012 08:35 Souma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 08:30 kwizach wrote:
On October 25 2012 04:35 farvacola wrote:
On October 25 2012 04:18 Swazi Spring wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
George W. Bush
* Son of president George H. W. Bush.
* Governor of Texas.
* Military veteran.


Bill Clinton
* Governor of Arkansas.
* Attorney General of Arkansas.


George H. W. Bush
* Vice President of the United States.
* Director of the CIA.
* Chairman of the Republican National Committee.
* United States Ambassador to the United Nations.
* United States Ambassador to the People's Republic of China.
* Member of the US House of Representatives.
* Military veteran.


Ronald Reagan
* Governor of California.
* Campaign assistant to Barry Goldwater.
* Military veteran.
* Famous actor.


Jimmy Carter
* Governor of Georgia.
* Member of the Georgia Senate.
* Military veteran.


Gerald Ford
* Vice President of the United States.
* US House of Representatives Minority Leader
* Member of the US House of Representatives.
* Military veteran.



Now lets look at Barack Obama...
* 1 incomplete term as US Senator.
* Member of the Illinois Senate.

parallelluniverse
*Seemingly liberal
*Aussie economics guy
*Large number of substantive posts backing his position in his own words

I hope you're joking, paralleluniverse is anything BUT a supporter of Austrian economics :p In fact, he's been doing a tremendous job debunking pretty much all of their claims in this thread.


He meant parallel's Australian, not an Austrian economist.

DAMNIT, I had never confused the two until now :-D My bad ><
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18855 Posts
October 24 2012 23:49 GMT
#20655
On October 25 2012 08:30 kwizach wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 04:35 farvacola wrote:
On October 25 2012 04:18 Swazi Spring wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
George W. Bush
* Son of president George H. W. Bush.
* Governor of Texas.
* Military veteran.


Bill Clinton
* Governor of Arkansas.
* Attorney General of Arkansas.


George H. W. Bush
* Vice President of the United States.
* Director of the CIA.
* Chairman of the Republican National Committee.
* United States Ambassador to the United Nations.
* United States Ambassador to the People's Republic of China.
* Member of the US House of Representatives.
* Military veteran.


Ronald Reagan
* Governor of California.
* Campaign assistant to Barry Goldwater.
* Military veteran.
* Famous actor.


Jimmy Carter
* Governor of Georgia.
* Member of the Georgia Senate.
* Military veteran.


Gerald Ford
* Vice President of the United States.
* US House of Representatives Minority Leader
* Member of the US House of Representatives.
* Military veteran.



Now lets look at Barack Obama...
* 1 incomplete term as US Senator.
* Member of the Illinois Senate.

parallelluniverse
*Seemingly liberal
*Aussie economics guy
*Large number of substantive posts backing his position in his own words

I hope you're joking, paralleluniverse is anything BUT a supporter of Austrian economics :p In fact, he's been doing a tremendous job debunking pretty much all of their claims in this thread.

Yeah, I didn't even realize "aussie" could hypothetically refer to an Austrian economist. Worry not! I was merely pointing out his "shrimp on the barbie"-ness
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 25 2012 00:05 GMT
#20656
On October 25 2012 08:35 Souma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 08:30 kwizach wrote:
On October 25 2012 04:35 farvacola wrote:
On October 25 2012 04:18 Swazi Spring wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
George W. Bush
* Son of president George H. W. Bush.
* Governor of Texas.
* Military veteran.


Bill Clinton
* Governor of Arkansas.
* Attorney General of Arkansas.


George H. W. Bush
* Vice President of the United States.
* Director of the CIA.
* Chairman of the Republican National Committee.
* United States Ambassador to the United Nations.
* United States Ambassador to the People's Republic of China.
* Member of the US House of Representatives.
* Military veteran.


Ronald Reagan
* Governor of California.
* Campaign assistant to Barry Goldwater.
* Military veteran.
* Famous actor.


Jimmy Carter
* Governor of Georgia.
* Member of the Georgia Senate.
* Military veteran.


Gerald Ford
* Vice President of the United States.
* US House of Representatives Minority Leader
* Member of the US House of Representatives.
* Military veteran.



Now lets look at Barack Obama...
* 1 incomplete term as US Senator.
* Member of the Illinois Senate.

parallelluniverse
*Seemingly liberal
*Aussie economics guy
*Large number of substantive posts backing his position in his own words

I hope you're joking, paralleluniverse is anything BUT a supporter of Austrian economics :p In fact, he's been doing a tremendous job debunking pretty much all of their claims in this thread.


He meant parallel's Australian, not an Austrian economist.


Hahahaha, I can't stop laughing at this. Just picture parallel's reaction XD
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
October 25 2012 00:07 GMT
#20657
Probably like how he'd look right after someone smacked him with a gold bar XD
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
October 25 2012 00:08 GMT
#20658
ahah :-D It's my bad farvacola, for some reason I confused the two, I don't think anyone uses "Aussie" for Austrian :p
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
October 25 2012 00:15 GMT
#20659
On October 25 2012 06:20 sevencck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 05:33 sc2superfan101 wrote:
so from now on, can anyone who is looking to ask a conservative/Republican a question about abortion and rape please refer that question to me so that I can answer it? Because apparently Republican politicians are having a hard time answering this question without sounding like misogynist asses. I mean how hard is this:

"Rape is one of the most heinous and terrible things that can happen to someone. We as a society have a moral duty to protect the victims and to pursue justice against the perpetrators, and it is my firm belief that we have a further obligation to provide the victims with as much help as humanly possible. As a {insert political/religious philosophy here}, I believe that all life is sacred, and I believe that the rights of the unborn child should be protected with every bit as much dedication and fervor as the rights of the mother."

but noooooooo... we can't be fucking politically savvy to save our gddamn lives. no way, Republicans have to start trying to redefine rape and wondering if maybe God didn't want the rape to happen or whatever the fuck that retard was saying. I mean, these are grown men and they can't even fucking get it right.

someone get them the hell out of my party because they make me look bad, and that's fucking saying something right there.


What you're suggesting is heinous. It's not up to you to decide what sort of "help" best serves a woman who has just been impregnated by rape, while ignoring what she believes is best for her. Youre suggesting you can speak on behalf of rape victims instead of listening to them. Its misogeny at its absolute most fundamental and it is totally embarrassing that you think its a reasonable stance. For you to attempt to dictate terms of recovery to rape victims is heinous, particularly using respect for life as a pretext for your view.

methinks you read what you wanted me to have said, not what I said. I'm not sure where you got anything specific about what "help" would be offered from what I said, since I certainly offfered no specifics. nor did I make any assertion about how a rape victim should be treated, or whether rape victims should be listened to or not. I would ask what it is you are suggesting that we should "listen" to them about and how is that relevant to my statement?
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
radiatoren
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Denmark1907 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 00:18:48
October 25 2012 00:17 GMT
#20660
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Repeat before me
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