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lvlashimaro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States91 Posts
November 19 2011 21:08 GMT
#141
Two tablespoons of tomato paste is not a vegetable. It's disgusting how this bill passed. What else does the pizza count as? Butter? Bleached flour? The amount of "vegetabe" on the pizza is so minimal relative to the rest of the ingredients that this is just a slap in the face to the health of America's youth. Can't wait to see the life expectancy to lower down to the age of 40 here (exaggeration). So much for the future.
But really, what example is this showing the kids? If they start to think "Well the government says it's a vegetable", it'll clearly stick in their minds. As time passes, there will be "justifiable" reasons on why pizza really is a vegetable-based food, and dare I say, deem pizza healthy! Of course there's healthy pizza, but honestly, if anyone has seen an American school cafeteria, it's usually drowning in its own fat. =/
작은 두손을 모은 내 기도는 하나 뿐이야 돌아와
K9GM3
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands116 Posts
November 19 2011 21:09 GMT
#142
This one time, I was on skiing vacation in Switzerland near the Italian border. We stopped for lunch somewhere, and they served pizzas. We all agreed to order pizza, and my eye was on the Pizza Végétarienne: eggplant, zucchini, mushrooms and radicchio.

So I order that, and (no joke) the waiter brings me a pizza with carrots, cauliflower and broccoli.
No, I don't want your number.
LinYu)Fury
Profile Joined September 2003
Norway200 Posts
November 19 2011 21:11 GMT
#143
Only in America, lol :p
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
November 19 2011 21:13 GMT
#144
i've always been saying the corn lobby/food lobby is more powerful than the oil ones.

fuck this shitttt
www.justin.tv/veisc2 ~ 720p + commentary
Velocirapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States983 Posts
November 19 2011 21:15 GMT
#145
On November 20 2011 06:02 charcute wrote:
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On November 20 2011 05:56 Newbistic wrote:
That little abortion jab in the beginning was completely unnecessary, can't believe a sane newspaper editor would let that by.

But I'm glad those Congressmen have our best interests in mind with that categorization. 2 tablespoons of processed tomato paste... should not be considered a vegetable.


oyu are right, tomatoes are fruits!


This is both true and a hilarious response. If somebody is trying to justify poor eating habits then they will find a way. Is a deep fried banana still a banana? Sure it is, but its not what most would consider healthy. There is no reason to not classify a certain amount of tomato product as equivalent to eating a fruit if they have similar nutritional benefits, but there is no reason to then smear it on bread with cheese and call it healthy.
Kuja
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1759 Posts
November 19 2011 21:16 GMT
#146
Lawl at dumb people who read tittle and think they know everything on the issue. 2tbs of tomato sauce counted as vegetables before and it does now also, not like anything changed. people are dumb.
“Who's to say that my light is better than your darkness? Who's to say death is better than your darkness? Who am I to say?”
henkel
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands146 Posts
November 19 2011 21:20 GMT
#147
putting pineapple on pizaa is almost the same as genocide....

think this is indeed just sensational tabloid news.
They made the right decision, best would be to stop seeing tomato souse as a vegetible
I would never consider tomato souse a vegetable...
i try to eat 200 grams of vegies a day.
Frozen stuf doesn't count for me, it kinda feels like i am cheating
Phobbers
Profile Joined May 2011
773 Posts
November 19 2011 21:24 GMT
#148
On November 20 2011 06:16 Kuja wrote:
Lawl at dumb people who read tittle and think they know everything on the issue. 2tbs of tomato sauce counted as vegetables before and it does now also, not like anything changed. people are dumb.

You're completely wrong sir. Maybe two table spoons of tomato sauce alone is a vegetable, but now they classified pizza itself a vegetable because of the sauce. As someone stated earlier, it was just a way to spend less money on healthier foods in schools.

EG/C9/ALL/TSM
zobz
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada2175 Posts
November 19 2011 21:24 GMT
#149
A school cafeteria seems like a good way to raise funds for the school, in which case whatever sells well.... Why though, are any parents stupid enough to encourage their children to eat it, or to not actively discourage them from eating it? If parents are really so concerned with their children's health, which they are apparently not, then the solution is rather straight forward. What the government's responsibility is in arbitrarily labelling food as "a portion" of this or that I don't understand in the least. It should be entirely obvious to anyone, as the negative responses to school lunch pizza in this thread demonstrate, whether frozen fast food is healthy or not in complete disregard of any government mandate. Ignore the government, use your own judgement. And while you're at it, stop holding any expectations at all of the government in their issuing of such mandates, it only encourages them.
"That's not gonna be good for business." "That's not gonna be good for anybody."
Scap
Profile Joined October 2010
United States60 Posts
November 19 2011 21:28 GMT
#150
If you don't like it...send your kids to school with a bagged lunch? The problem I suppose is for the poorer families who can't afford to do so.
I'm confused though, I always got a side of "salad" from my school whenever I got my pizza (Friday was pizza day! The best day of the week. And the only day I didn't bring in soup or a sandwich). Would this mean that now schools can SKIP that because the vegetables are now counted as a part of the pizza? Because I don't think that's smart...
Batssa
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States154 Posts
November 19 2011 21:32 GMT
#151
Heh. I know the meme because it's a song that people use in China to facilitate teaching English. Heard it for the first time as a bunch of Chinese-English teachers were discussing songs to help teach a particular lesson. Never listened to the song as a kid, but apparently it's what a lot of non-Americans consider Americans to actually partake in. Can't really stop a world from believing something it wants to, "Ah fuck it, pizza is a vegetable." No use arguing.
MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
November 19 2011 21:46 GMT
#152
HILARIOUS.....thats the usa i love....i remember this documentary where they show a elemental school somewhere in the usa, which has a lot of fast food for sale to the children....they interviewed one of them eating french fries everyday....it said :"its healthy because potatoes are vegetables" this is what it got told by its parents. altough potatoes really are vegetables, you get the point. thats how your kids are raised in america....good luck in the future....if your country has one.....
the american goverment wants their people to be stupid, because if the majority wouldnt be stupid, there would be alot more riots going on against all the shit your goverment is doing every day

"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
forgotten0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States951 Posts
November 19 2011 21:47 GMT
#153
On November 20 2011 06:04 BreakfastBurrito wrote:
I laughed soo hard at the write-up, and the situation in general... love my country sometimes!!!!
pizza CAN be healthy, but I remember eating that elementary school pizza and it was just awful, tasted like cardboard topped with rubber...no way it had nutritional value......


At our school they actually told the kids the pizza was from Godfathers to make them "feel better" about it. Those were the days.
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Disarm22
Profile Joined January 2011
United States151 Posts
November 19 2011 21:48 GMT
#154
this is why too many ppl in the US are obese. It disgusts me to be american sometimes.
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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
November 19 2011 21:49 GMT
#155
Completely nonsensical excuse to support food lobbyists.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
November 19 2011 21:50 GMT
#156
On November 20 2011 06:24 Phobbers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 06:16 Kuja wrote:
Lawl at dumb people who read tittle and think they know everything on the issue. 2tbs of tomato sauce counted as vegetables before and it does now also, not like anything changed. people are dumb.

You're completely wrong sir. Maybe two table spoons of tomato sauce alone is a vegetable, but now they classified pizza itself a vegetable because of the sauce. As someone stated earlier, it was just a way to spend less money on healthier foods in schools.



Food in American public schools was already absolutely awful in many places when I went to school. That it's getting worse is just completely ridiculous, especially since it affects poor families who rely on reduced price/free lunches the most.
Logic is Overrated
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 21:58:47
November 19 2011 21:56 GMT
#157
On November 20 2011 00:56 FallDownMarigold wrote:
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On November 20 2011 00:50 eshlow wrote:
U.S. Obesity health care costs currently exceed $147 billion.

But Congress thinks they are saving money by classifying pizza as a vegetable so they don't have to pay more money to get healthier foods in schools.

Makes sense to me.


Not arguing with you, but I actually learned that obesity is not a major contributing factor to rising health care costs in the US. There is a good bit of evidence that it in fact only accounts for a negligible increase in rising health care costs in the US. The primary factor in rising health care costs in the US is over consumption of medical technologies/treatment and health care products.

As someone who worked in the healthcare industry for a while, I think this man speaks the truth. I am curious where the $147 billion figure comes from, as well. Often, optimistic guesses are rationalized in the name of awareness and promotion.

I doubt cafeteria pizza has changed much from my elementary school days in the late 80s. 75% nasty cheese, 20% uncooked dough, and 5% toppings/sauce. This is why good parenting is essential. No amount of laws can create morals to govern society, but internalized morals can help people govern themselves.
Neb1000
Profile Joined January 2011
United States183 Posts
November 19 2011 22:03 GMT
#158
On November 20 2011 06:20 henkel wrote:
putting pineapple on pizaa is almost the same as genocide....

think this is indeed just sensational tabloid news.
They made the right decision, best would be to stop seeing tomato souse as a vegetible
I would never consider tomato souse a vegetable...
i try to eat 200 grams of vegies a day.
Frozen stuf doesn't count for me, it kinda feels like i am cheating

WTF are you talking about, pineapple pizza is amazing.
arbitrageur
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia1202 Posts
November 19 2011 22:27 GMT
#159
well that's one super high sodium vegetable. Politicians are fucking retarded.
FeUerFlieGe
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1193 Posts
November 19 2011 22:39 GMT
#160
French Fries are also a vegetable.
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