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Latrommi
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States222 Posts
November 19 2011 19:57 GMT
#121
Seriously? This isn't how to raise the overall health of the nation. Now people can justify their obsession with pizza even more by just telling everyone "oh, its a vegetable" and being okay with it.
Possibly the best thread ever http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=232912&currentpage=All
Maand
Profile Joined April 2010
326 Posts
November 19 2011 20:00 GMT
#122
Most entertaining are reactions of people who actually think, that US Congress indeed claimed pizza a vegetable

Unless anything covered in 2tbs of tomato paste is considered vegetable I don't see a problem at all. I've heard that potato paste maintains potato nutritious values rather well.
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
November 19 2011 20:14 GMT
#123
On November 20 2011 04:57 Latrommi wrote:
Seriously? This isn't how to raise the overall health of the nation. Now people can justify their obsession with pizza even more by just telling everyone "oh, its a vegetable" and being okay with it.


Pretty sure someone who would stoop that low or be that stupid could find other excuses to eat pizza...
Robstickle
Profile Joined April 2010
Great Britain406 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 20:51:55
November 19 2011 20:15 GMT
#124
On November 20 2011 03:26 Conti wrote:
This is about whether tomato paste should count as vegetables or not. The whole "Pizzas are now vegetable!" meme is a pure invention. In fact, two table spoons of tomato paste already count as vegetable, so by the media's logic, pizzas already are vegetables.

The new bill initially proposed to change "2 tablespoons of tomato paste counts as vegetable" to "0.5 tablespoons counts as vegetable", but now they're back to the status quo (2 tablespoons instead of 0.5). That is all.

But of course it's much more fun to claim that the US now declares pizza a vegetable. People will go to your news site to read about that, regardless of whether it is a made-up fantasy or not.

(Edit: Oops, forgot the source: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hZy7qHYu4-qXuTWRJm192734Gs6w?docId=6b9a38b3ae5c40979b7be9ba8f1ac176


You misread that article.

The USDA wanted half a CUP, which is more than you find on a pizza, not half a tablespoon of tomato sauce to be counted as a serving of a vegetable, the bill that was just voted on stopped that from being implemented, keeping it down at two tablespoons. Hence people saying that congress has ruled pizza to be a vegetable, which in the context of school lunches, they have done. If they hadn't passed the bill, it would have gone up to half a cup, which would have made pizza not a vegetable.

It annoys me that this post is going to be ignored and people are going to keep treating your post as if it's made of gold.
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
November 19 2011 20:17 GMT
#125
On November 20 2011 05:15 Robstickle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 03:26 Sideburn wrote:
This is about whether tomato paste should count as vegetables or not. The whole "Pizzas are now vegetable!" meme is a pure invention. In fact, two table spoons of tomato paste already count as vegetable, so by the media's logic, pizzas already are vegetables.

The new bill initially proposed to change "2 tablespoons of tomato paste counts as vegetable" to "0.5 tablespoons counts as vegetable", but now they're back to the status quo (2 tablespoons instead of 0.5). That is all.

But of course it's much more fun to claim that the US now declares pizza a vegetable. People will go to your news site to read about that, regardless of whether it is a made-up fantasy or not.

(Edit: Oops, forgot the source: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hZy7qHYu4-qXuTWRJm192734Gs6w?docId=6b9a38b3ae5c40979b7be9ba8f1ac176


You need to read your own article.

The USDA wanted half a CUP, which is more than you find on a pizza, not have a tablespoon of tomato sauce to be counted as a serving of a vegetable, the bill that was just voted on stopped that from being implemented, keeping it down at two tablespoons. Hence people saying that congress has ruled pizza to be a vegetable, which in the context of school lunches, they have done. If they hadn't allowed this, it would have gone up to half a cup, which would have made pizza not a vegetable.

It annoys me that this post is going to be ignored and people are going to keep treating your post as if it's made of gold.


I didn't ignore your post :D Reading articles is always a good idea, even if someone has good intention when providing summaries.
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 20:21:26
November 19 2011 20:20 GMT
#126
Shouldnt it be "contains vegetables" instead of "being a vegetable". As far as i know, Pizza's doesnt grow freely in nature and shouldnt be called a vegetable. If they wanna call it a vegetable dish then go ahead but not a vegetable

If i throw a slice of tomato on top of my burger it doesnt make it a vegetable, it makes it a... hamburger with some vegetables ><
Robstickle
Profile Joined April 2010
Great Britain406 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 20:28:02
November 19 2011 20:22 GMT
#127
On November 20 2011 05:17 Zeke50100 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 05:15 Robstickle wrote:
On November 20 2011 03:26 Sideburn wrote:
This is about whether tomato paste should count as vegetables or not. The whole "Pizzas are now vegetable!" meme is a pure invention. In fact, two table spoons of tomato paste already count as vegetable, so by the media's logic, pizzas already are vegetables.

The new bill initially proposed to change "2 tablespoons of tomato paste counts as vegetable" to "0.5 tablespoons counts as vegetable", but now they're back to the status quo (2 tablespoons instead of 0.5). That is all.

But of course it's much more fun to claim that the US now declares pizza a vegetable. People will go to your news site to read about that, regardless of whether it is a made-up fantasy or not.

(Edit: Oops, forgot the source: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hZy7qHYu4-qXuTWRJm192734Gs6w?docId=6b9a38b3ae5c40979b7be9ba8f1ac176


You need to read your own article.

The USDA wanted half a CUP, which is more than you find on a pizza, not have a tablespoon of tomato sauce to be counted as a serving of a vegetable, the bill that was just voted on stopped that from being implemented, keeping it down at two tablespoons. Hence people saying that congress has ruled pizza to be a vegetable, which in the context of school lunches, they have done. If they hadn't allowed this, it would have gone up to half a cup, which would have made pizza not a vegetable.

It annoys me that this post is going to be ignored and people are going to keep treating your post as if it's made of gold.


I didn't ignore your post :D Reading articles is always a good idea, even if someone has good intention when providing summaries.




I seriously recommend everyone does read the article Conti posted by the way, it lays out the other things this bill has done for the frozen food industry. The other main thing being that the USDA wanted to restrict starchy foods (fries and the like) to two servings a week.

But of course, people will continue to accuse others of American bashing, instead of looking at how congress just screwed American children.
Son of Gnome
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States777 Posts
November 19 2011 20:25 GMT
#128
'Merica... :D
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Roeder
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark735 Posts
November 19 2011 20:26 GMT
#129
I just ordered a vegetable from my favourite vegetable place.
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WarSame
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1950 Posts
November 19 2011 20:27 GMT
#130
I love how almost no one in here undestand what the fuck they are talking about, but still love to express their uninformed opinion vehemently.
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MaV_gGSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1345 Posts
November 19 2011 20:31 GMT
#131
I don't... I just don't understand. Meh at least I can say that I eat my vegetables :D
Life's good :D
Befree
Profile Joined April 2010
695 Posts
November 19 2011 20:46 GMT
#132
I absolutely hate this type of sensationalist "news reporting." The stupidity, the ignorance, the complete disregard for what is actually important. These reporters who try so hard with lines like "Who needs leafy greens and carrots when pizza and french fries will do?" only embarrass the profession. They delude themselves into thinking they're a part of some sort of modern day muckraking, when all they do is write meaningless sensationalist articles purely intended attract the attention of masses with their simplified narratives, dumbed down enough that any person out there thinks they understand the issue by reading a few of their lines.

And to clear up one of the very simple logical errors in this story and the interpretations. When something doesn't change, you can't view that which was already there as a change just because it was not changed. So to fix your title, while still preserving the sensationalist simplified stupidity of it, it should read "Pizza is still a vegetable (well in the US it is)"

There are deep issues with public school cafeterias, and there are deep issues with the incentives of food industries not being in line with public health. But articles on subjects like this do nothing to help either. They simplify the issue and disguise it as "politicians are dumb sellouts and the food industry is evil." It only addresses a symptom, but not the cause.
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
November 19 2011 20:47 GMT
#133
I'm gonna go order myself some vegetable right now.
Buffinator
Profile Joined November 2011
United States9 Posts
November 19 2011 20:51 GMT
#134
Pizza a vegetable who would ever have thought that??? Pizza is actually healthier then some foods that are out there these days it all depends whats on it.
Alethios
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
New Zealand2765 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 20:54:55
November 19 2011 20:53 GMT
#135
I've recently been watching Jamie Oliver's Food Revolution. He's trying to change the menus in schools to be healthier, but unsurprisingly is up against a lot of resistance. On one episode it's revealed that the USDA classifies french fries as vegetables as well. Worth a watch:

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Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 20:57:50
November 19 2011 20:56 GMT
#136
That little abortion jab in the beginning was completely unnecessary, can't believe a sane newspaper editor would let that by.

But I'm glad those Congressmen have our best interests in mind with that categorization. 2 tablespoons of processed tomato paste... should not be considered a vegetable.
Logic is Overrated
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
November 19 2011 21:00 GMT
#137
yes, its stupid, but its not like they are saying pizza is a vegetable, it is saying that it has a serving of vegetables in the tomato paste. either way its stupid as hell, but not as stupid as people going "lol they think pizza is a vegetable"
charcute
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada419 Posts
November 19 2011 21:02 GMT
#138
On November 20 2011 05:56 Newbistic wrote:
That little abortion jab in the beginning was completely unnecessary, can't believe a sane newspaper editor would let that by.

But I'm glad those Congressmen have our best interests in mind with that categorization. 2 tablespoons of processed tomato paste... should not be considered a vegetable.


oyu are right, tomatoes are fruits!
I like to do it all night long
Seam
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
November 19 2011 21:03 GMT
#139
As someone who is a major fan of Pizza....

Wtf? -_-

How....can they....
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BreakfastBurrito
Profile Joined November 2011
United States893 Posts
November 19 2011 21:04 GMT
#140
I laughed soo hard at the write-up, and the situation in general... love my country sometimes!!!!
pizza CAN be healthy, but I remember eating that elementary school pizza and it was just awful, tasted like cardboard topped with rubber...no way it had nutritional value......
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