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On November 02 2011 12:50 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 12:44 MaGariShun wrote:
You are making a far too big deal out of this. I was kinda disturbed by it too, when I first skimmed over it, but on a second view-through you can clearly see how the situation evolved. He is never aiming to injure or permanently hurt her (only hits her legs because she refuses to turn around). It is clear he stepped over the line and it is not good practice especially on a 16 year old to do this kind of thing, but you can't tell people how to raise their children. Even the mother seems to disagree with how he handles the situation (she takes the belt herself and tries to get the daughter to turn around by talking to her and then spanks her only once).
We don't have any information about how often this argument had already come up and how it was handled. Maybe violence was his last resort after they had tried to resolve the matter "normally". Why did she make the video? She apparently knew this was gonna happen, but was it because he always handles arguments that way and abused her before, or was it because he threatened her with it and she still disobeyed knowing what would happen to then tape it? Did he regret his actions afterwards? Did he maybe even apologize? Was this the only time this happened?
I'm not jumping to any conclusions and neither should you. I certainly wouldn't do such things to my kids if I had any, but saying things like he should be executed/raped/killed/whatever are way overboard. I agree that he should at least be confronted publicly so he probably has to give up his career, but no hard legal action should be taken. I almost never (probably like 2 times in my whole childhood, like when I repeatedly called my mother a bitch or such hard cases) got physically punished by my parents, but I know I had particularly loving and caring parents. I know a lot of people in my age who did not have that fortune and they are not "forever scarred" or something. Most of our parents probably were raised with physical punishment and they turned out mentally healthy and with good relationships to their own parents. As long as things like this remain an exception and are not part of the regular family life, I don't see how it is that big of a deal. Yeah. Not a big deal at all.
It is completely out of context is something you have to realize.
Imagine your worst moment in your life being put up for the whole world to see. I'm sure people would not be impressed at all not even to you Jinro.
Now I do not agree with the way he went about it, but obviously tempers were flying and the mother thought it was way to much. But when you are punishing a child you don't argue in front of the child of how you are going to punish them.
Was the Judge Right?
No not at all. But do realize it's not as bad as it seems.
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On November 03 2011 07:01 Egyptian_Head wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 06:54 jinorazi wrote:On November 03 2011 06:52 ayaz2810 wrote:On November 03 2011 06:48 Cirn9 wrote:
Its just a spanking isn't it?
Not slapping her around and truly beating her.
Maybe I'm just old and things have changed a lot, but spankings weren't anything but a fast punishment for doing something bad. Fuck, when I was little, I'd rather be spanked than grounded, because then I could go back to playing right after the butthurt wore off.
EDIT: Fuck off E-sports elephant! My adblock is disabled! I don't mind a good old fashioned spanking. That being said, no one should be beating on a 16 year old. That's wrong in and of itself. Secondly, a spanking is supposed to be about correcting a behavior. This beating was about anger. Look at how he beats her across the legs and such. And the language he and the mother use. This was not just a punishment, this was them losing control. That's not acceptable at any age. EDIT: Go go internet white knights!! http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45135221/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/ very good point. i think the problem is that the parents lost control, not the fact that she was getting spanked. Pretty much. If you cannot remain calm then this kind of discipline really is not something you should be doing.
Absolutely. Losing control like that does nothing but instill fear into a small person who is supposed to trust you. It's fucked up.
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So is this dead beat shit still Judge or what?
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On November 03 2011 07:04 shifty wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 12:50 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On November 02 2011 12:44 MaGariShun wrote:
You are making a far too big deal out of this. I was kinda disturbed by it too, when I first skimmed over it, but on a second view-through you can clearly see how the situation evolved. He is never aiming to injure or permanently hurt her (only hits her legs because she refuses to turn around). It is clear he stepped over the line and it is not good practice especially on a 16 year old to do this kind of thing, but you can't tell people how to raise their children. Even the mother seems to disagree with how he handles the situation (she takes the belt herself and tries to get the daughter to turn around by talking to her and then spanks her only once).
We don't have any information about how often this argument had already come up and how it was handled. Maybe violence was his last resort after they had tried to resolve the matter "normally". Why did she make the video? She apparently knew this was gonna happen, but was it because he always handles arguments that way and abused her before, or was it because he threatened her with it and she still disobeyed knowing what would happen to then tape it? Did he regret his actions afterwards? Did he maybe even apologize? Was this the only time this happened?
I'm not jumping to any conclusions and neither should you. I certainly wouldn't do such things to my kids if I had any, but saying things like he should be executed/raped/killed/whatever are way overboard. I agree that he should at least be confronted publicly so he probably has to give up his career, but no hard legal action should be taken. I almost never (probably like 2 times in my whole childhood, like when I repeatedly called my mother a bitch or such hard cases) got physically punished by my parents, but I know I had particularly loving and caring parents. I know a lot of people in my age who did not have that fortune and they are not "forever scarred" or something. Most of our parents probably were raised with physical punishment and they turned out mentally healthy and with good relationships to their own parents. As long as things like this remain an exception and are not part of the regular family life, I don't see how it is that big of a deal.
Turn around or I swear to god I'll beat your fucking face
Yeah. Not a big deal at all. It is completely out of context is something you have to realize. Imagine your worst moment in your life being put up for the whole world to see. I'm sure people would not be impressed at all not even to you Jinro. Now I do not agree with the way he went about it, but obviously tempers were flying and the mother thought it was way to much. But when you are punishing a child you don't argue in front of the child of how you are going to punish them. Was the Judge Right? No not at all. But do realize it's not as bad as it seems.
it's every bit as bad as it seems - especially as more of the story emerges and we start to realize that this is something that has gone on for years, that the girl was getting harassed by phone by the father and and that is why she released the video, and that the mother is out of the marriage and she admits to the abuse.
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On November 03 2011 06:52 ayaz2810 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 06:48 Cirn9 wrote:
Its just a spanking isn't it?
Not slapping her around and truly beating her.
Maybe I'm just old and things have changed a lot, but spankings weren't anything but a fast punishment for doing something bad. Fuck, when I was little, I'd rather be spanked than grounded, because then I could go back to playing right after the butthurt wore off.
EDIT: Fuck off E-sports elephant! My adblock is disabled! I don't mind a good old fashioned spanking. That being said, no one should be beating on a 16 year old. That's wrong in and of itself. Secondly, a spanking is supposed to be about correcting a behavior. This beating was about anger. Look at how he beats her across the legs and such. And the language he and the mother use. This was not just a punishment, this was them losing control. That's not acceptable at any age. EDIT: Go go internet white knights!! http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45135221/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/2nd EDIT: Yes, I spank my kids. I think it's fine in extreme circumstances and in moderation.
How is it okay hitting your kids? You are using a behavior that is extremely tribal and can not even be classified as civilized. Try using methods of raising your children that won't cause mental damage.
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sounds like some hardcore conservative+christian shit. maybe hes amish? i got hit when i was a kid, and looking back, it was perfectly fine, do something wrong, get the wooden ladle, got the belt a few times too, no biggie(gutta love an asian + indian household). that being said, after watching abit of the video... mmm, the dad seemed abit too into it, but idk, nothing super shocking. id like to know the demographic of people that are shocked?
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On November 03 2011 07:08 Quotidian wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 07:04 shifty wrote:On November 02 2011 12:50 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On November 02 2011 12:44 MaGariShun wrote:
You are making a far too big deal out of this. I was kinda disturbed by it too, when I first skimmed over it, but on a second view-through you can clearly see how the situation evolved. He is never aiming to injure or permanently hurt her (only hits her legs because she refuses to turn around). It is clear he stepped over the line and it is not good practice especially on a 16 year old to do this kind of thing, but you can't tell people how to raise their children. Even the mother seems to disagree with how he handles the situation (she takes the belt herself and tries to get the daughter to turn around by talking to her and then spanks her only once).
We don't have any information about how often this argument had already come up and how it was handled. Maybe violence was his last resort after they had tried to resolve the matter "normally". Why did she make the video? She apparently knew this was gonna happen, but was it because he always handles arguments that way and abused her before, or was it because he threatened her with it and she still disobeyed knowing what would happen to then tape it? Did he regret his actions afterwards? Did he maybe even apologize? Was this the only time this happened?
I'm not jumping to any conclusions and neither should you. I certainly wouldn't do such things to my kids if I had any, but saying things like he should be executed/raped/killed/whatever are way overboard. I agree that he should at least be confronted publicly so he probably has to give up his career, but no hard legal action should be taken. I almost never (probably like 2 times in my whole childhood, like when I repeatedly called my mother a bitch or such hard cases) got physically punished by my parents, but I know I had particularly loving and caring parents. I know a lot of people in my age who did not have that fortune and they are not "forever scarred" or something. Most of our parents probably were raised with physical punishment and they turned out mentally healthy and with good relationships to their own parents. As long as things like this remain an exception and are not part of the regular family life, I don't see how it is that big of a deal.
Turn around or I swear to god I'll beat your fucking face
Yeah. Not a big deal at all. It is completely out of context is something you have to realize. Imagine your worst moment in your life being put up for the whole world to see. I'm sure people would not be impressed at all not even to you Jinro. Now I do not agree with the way he went about it, but obviously tempers were flying and the mother thought it was way to much. But when you are punishing a child you don't argue in front of the child of how you are going to punish them. Was the Judge Right? No not at all. But do realize it's not as bad as it seems. it's every bit as bad as it seems - especially as more of the story emerges and we start to realize that this is something that has gone on for years, that the girl was getting harassed by phone by the father and and that is why she released the video, and that the mother is out of the marriage and she admits to the abuse.
Where is this information? I must have missed it.
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On November 03 2011 07:04 shifty wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 12:50 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On November 02 2011 12:44 MaGariShun wrote:
You are making a far too big deal out of this. I was kinda disturbed by it too, when I first skimmed over it, but on a second view-through you can clearly see how the situation evolved. He is never aiming to injure or permanently hurt her (only hits her legs because she refuses to turn around). It is clear he stepped over the line and it is not good practice especially on a 16 year old to do this kind of thing, but you can't tell people how to raise their children. Even the mother seems to disagree with how he handles the situation (she takes the belt herself and tries to get the daughter to turn around by talking to her and then spanks her only once).
We don't have any information about how often this argument had already come up and how it was handled. Maybe violence was his last resort after they had tried to resolve the matter "normally". Why did she make the video? She apparently knew this was gonna happen, but was it because he always handles arguments that way and abused her before, or was it because he threatened her with it and she still disobeyed knowing what would happen to then tape it? Did he regret his actions afterwards? Did he maybe even apologize? Was this the only time this happened?
I'm not jumping to any conclusions and neither should you. I certainly wouldn't do such things to my kids if I had any, but saying things like he should be executed/raped/killed/whatever are way overboard. I agree that he should at least be confronted publicly so he probably has to give up his career, but no hard legal action should be taken. I almost never (probably like 2 times in my whole childhood, like when I repeatedly called my mother a bitch or such hard cases) got physically punished by my parents, but I know I had particularly loving and caring parents. I know a lot of people in my age who did not have that fortune and they are not "forever scarred" or something. Most of our parents probably were raised with physical punishment and they turned out mentally healthy and with good relationships to their own parents. As long as things like this remain an exception and are not part of the regular family life, I don't see how it is that big of a deal.
Turn around or I swear to god I'll beat your fucking face
Yeah. Not a big deal at all. It is completely out of context is something you have to realize. Imagine your worst moment in your life being put up for the whole world to see. I'm sure people would not be impressed at all not even to you Jinro. Now I do not agree with the way he went about it, but obviously tempers were flying and the mother thought it was way to much. But when you are punishing a child you don't argue in front of the child of how you are going to punish them. Was the Judge Right? No not at all. But do realize it's not as bad as it seems.
It is simply wrong to use punishment to make a point, to teach a lesson however you want to phrase it IN ANY FUCKING CASE..WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE? No fucking education, no fucking common sense or what? (dont care if i get banned for this). In fact it is even worse then it seems. For there is a psychological issue.. Imagine you get beaten like this, by some of the actions displayed by this fucking weak exuse for parents this was not the first time, you get beaten by the people who are there to protect you, by your guardians (this is one of the KEY roles of parenting) you must be able to trust them in order to trust other people in future aswell...this is soo wrong and some answers here make me soo angry at you guys..I hope you all fucking learn a lesson from this, make the world a better place please, and DONT EVER punish you children or future children like this,FUCKING solve it with you BRAIN and not cause you are too dumb resolve to shit like this..and I allready was soo angry after watching parts of this video that I would love to kill those parents if I didnt know that that woudnt solve anything in the first place and now I read answers like this..fucking SICK world I live in.
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I... I think I have to puke.. sometimes there is hard to see good in this world when such monstrousities exist.
Why would they beat their precious child, why would any parent ever on purpose physicly hurt their little man or baby princess?
I was getting close to cry myself from how horrible that was to watch, how can her screams not stop them? you must be a borderline phsyco if a little girls fucking screams and tears for mercy don't stop you from continuing to physicly hit her.
I am disgusted beyond reason and have puked on some occassions from stuff in movies like Criminal Minds, but this was actually reality, in movies I at least can lean on the fact I know it is just an act. But this, it is something out of this world to me.
I wish this would just not be in the world we live in
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ok, after watching this vid im fucking pissed. Seriously
How the fuck can you do that, WTF is wrong with some people. I'd really like to punch that asshole in his face and beat him like he did to his daugther
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What many people don't understand is: this video is not about a well minded dad giving his daughter a little spank. It's about a brutal psychopath showing no mercy. A choleric bully who terrorizes his family and manipulated his wife to think and act alike.
What really makes me wanna throw up: This psychopath, with such an obviously flawed personality, is a fucking judge. How good of a judge are you, if you act like this?
Hopefully he will have plenty of time now, to think about how he damaged his family. But i doubt he can feel remorse.
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On November 02 2011 10:29 nitram wrote:
So, is he conservative?
hahahahahahahaha, good shit
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On November 03 2011 07:09 shifty wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 07:08 Quotidian wrote:On November 03 2011 07:04 shifty wrote:On November 02 2011 12:50 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On November 02 2011 12:44 MaGariShun wrote:
You are making a far too big deal out of this. I was kinda disturbed by it too, when I first skimmed over it, but on a second view-through you can clearly see how the situation evolved. He is never aiming to injure or permanently hurt her (only hits her legs because she refuses to turn around). It is clear he stepped over the line and it is not good practice especially on a 16 year old to do this kind of thing, but you can't tell people how to raise their children. Even the mother seems to disagree with how he handles the situation (she takes the belt herself and tries to get the daughter to turn around by talking to her and then spanks her only once).
We don't have any information about how often this argument had already come up and how it was handled. Maybe violence was his last resort after they had tried to resolve the matter "normally". Why did she make the video? She apparently knew this was gonna happen, but was it because he always handles arguments that way and abused her before, or was it because he threatened her with it and she still disobeyed knowing what would happen to then tape it? Did he regret his actions afterwards? Did he maybe even apologize? Was this the only time this happened?
I'm not jumping to any conclusions and neither should you. I certainly wouldn't do such things to my kids if I had any, but saying things like he should be executed/raped/killed/whatever are way overboard. I agree that he should at least be confronted publicly so he probably has to give up his career, but no hard legal action should be taken. I almost never (probably like 2 times in my whole childhood, like when I repeatedly called my mother a bitch or such hard cases) got physically punished by my parents, but I know I had particularly loving and caring parents. I know a lot of people in my age who did not have that fortune and they are not "forever scarred" or something. Most of our parents probably were raised with physical punishment and they turned out mentally healthy and with good relationships to their own parents. As long as things like this remain an exception and are not part of the regular family life, I don't see how it is that big of a deal.
Turn around or I swear to god I'll beat your fucking face
Yeah. Not a big deal at all. It is completely out of context is something you have to realize. Imagine your worst moment in your life being put up for the whole world to see. I'm sure people would not be impressed at all not even to you Jinro. Now I do not agree with the way he went about it, but obviously tempers were flying and the mother thought it was way to much. But when you are punishing a child you don't argue in front of the child of how you are going to punish them. Was the Judge Right? No not at all. But do realize it's not as bad as it seems. it's every bit as bad as it seems - especially as more of the story emerges and we start to realize that this is something that has gone on for years, that the girl was getting harassed by phone by the father and and that is why she released the video, and that the mother is out of the marriage and she admits to the abuse. Where is this information? I must have missed it.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45135221/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/#.TrHAnt6Bqso
'The woman, Hallie Adams, wrote: "I am praying for my daughters and me and my family to heal in all ways from emotional and physical abuse, for the current and continuing abuse of my children and me that has been ongoing to end — starting now — for my daughters to both finally be able to go to counseling both individually and as a family group with their Dad's approval, encouragement, involvement and support, for him to finally make amends to all of us, talk openly with us, and take the first steps to letting our broken family heal."'
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On November 03 2011 07:09 Minzy wrote:
sounds like some hardcore conservative+christian shit. maybe hes amish? i got hit when i was a kid, and looking back, it was perfectly fine, do something wrong, get the wooden ladle, got the belt a few times too, no biggie(gutta love an asian + indian household). that being said, after watching abit of the video... mmm, the dad seemed abit too into it, but idk, nothing super shocking. id like to know the demographic of people that are shocked?
Well seems cultures differ a lot on this. If you do anything like that in Italy your life is pretty much over, nobody will ever want to relate to you when you get out of prison and inmates would treat you like shit. I think overall the western part of Europe is against violence and corporal punishment in every situation.
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For being a judge you would think he'd know what cruel and unusual punishment is.
Let alone this all recorded with derogatory language and threats. For one being beaten with a belt can cause direct damage to the muscle tissue and if repetitive enough damage to the bones.
Being beaten on the stomach can cause internal bleeding to the organs. Then making threats to beating her face with the belt.
Can't wait to see this outcome. Going to laugh when both of these parents are sentenced to 10-15 for premeditated assault, assault with a weapon, negligence of a minor and assault to a minor.
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On November 03 2011 07:08 Zuxo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 06:52 ayaz2810 wrote:On November 03 2011 06:48 Cirn9 wrote:
Its just a spanking isn't it?
Not slapping her around and truly beating her.
Maybe I'm just old and things have changed a lot, but spankings weren't anything but a fast punishment for doing something bad. Fuck, when I was little, I'd rather be spanked than grounded, because then I could go back to playing right after the butthurt wore off.
EDIT: Fuck off E-sports elephant! My adblock is disabled! I don't mind a good old fashioned spanking. That being said, no one should be beating on a 16 year old. That's wrong in and of itself. Secondly, a spanking is supposed to be about correcting a behavior. This beating was about anger. Look at how he beats her across the legs and such. And the language he and the mother use. This was not just a punishment, this was them losing control. That's not acceptable at any age. EDIT: Go go internet white knights!! http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45135221/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/2nd EDIT: Yes, I spank my kids. I think it's fine in extreme circumstances and in moderation. How is it okay hitting your kids? You are using a behavior that is extremely tribal and can not even be classified as civilized. Try using methods of raising your children that won't cause mental damage.
Religion causes more damage to more people than I ever could. Talk about tribal. People will be outspoken about spanking, but not that garbage. Brool story co.
On topic, I generally only use physical discipline in a few circumstances. For example, my kids bedroom and playroom are on the 2nd floor of my house. I've told my kids repeatedly not to touch the windows or the lock things that stop the window from being opened. On one occasion, I walked upstairs and found one of the windows unlocked and partially open. And you can bet that I dished out a spanking in that case. A little bit of pain to avoid a lot more is fine with me. It's a good way to get your point across when something is very serious. I know people like to think that all children can be reasoned with, and that anything that is important to you is important to them. That's just not the case. My kids are super smart, and very mature, but sometimes you just can't get a point across without drastic action. Love it or hate it, it works.
EDIT: I was spanked as a child. I think it's fine. I don't suffer any ill effects. I'm married, have 2 great kids, and an IT job that pays well to go along with a college degree that I earned. I don't fault my parents for it at all. It helped greatly imo.
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45135221/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/
""I lost my temper," Adams told KRIS-TV. "Her mother was there, she wasn't hurt... it was a long time ago... I really don't want to get into this right now because as you can see my life's been made very difficult over this child." "
I'm sure his life is a lot more difficult than the child's.
When asked if he felt he was going to face suspension or discipline from the state over the video Adams responded, "In my mind I have not done anything wrong other than discipline my child when she was caught stealing. I did lose my temper, I've apologized... it looks worse than it is."
No remorse.
Aransas County Sheriff Bill Mills said Wednesday that Adams, a family law judge who handles child abuse cases, had disconnected his phone because of threatening calls and faxes after the video went viral.
This is just beautiful. The man is in charge of child abuse cases. Well, who else to judge over child abuse cases than an abuser themselves.
I like how other posters try to make excuses for the Judge.
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On November 03 2011 07:18 ayaz2810 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 07:08 Zuxo wrote:On November 03 2011 06:52 ayaz2810 wrote:On November 03 2011 06:48 Cirn9 wrote:
Its just a spanking isn't it?
Not slapping her around and truly beating her.
Maybe I'm just old and things have changed a lot, but spankings weren't anything but a fast punishment for doing something bad. Fuck, when I was little, I'd rather be spanked than grounded, because then I could go back to playing right after the butthurt wore off.
EDIT: Fuck off E-sports elephant! My adblock is disabled! I don't mind a good old fashioned spanking. That being said, no one should be beating on a 16 year old. That's wrong in and of itself. Secondly, a spanking is supposed to be about correcting a behavior. This beating was about anger. Look at how he beats her across the legs and such. And the language he and the mother use. This was not just a punishment, this was them losing control. That's not acceptable at any age. EDIT: Go go internet white knights!! http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45135221/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/2nd EDIT: Yes, I spank my kids. I think it's fine in extreme circumstances and in moderation. How is it okay hitting your kids? You are using a behavior that is extremely tribal and can not even be classified as civilized. Try using methods of raising your children that won't cause mental damage. Religion causes more damage to more people than I ever could. Talk about tribal. People will be outspoken about spanking, but not that garbage. Brool story co. On topic, I generally only use physical discipline in a few circumstances. For example, my kids bedroom and playroom are on the 2nd floor of my house. I've told my kids repeatedly not to touch the windows or the lock things that stop the window from being opened. On one occasion, I walked upstairs and found one of the windows unlocked and partially open. And you can bet that I dished out a spanking in that case. A little bit of pain to avoid a lot more is fine with me. It's a good way to get your point across when something is very serious. I know people like to think that all children can be reasoned with, and that anything that is important to you is important to them. That's just not the case. My kids are super smart, and very mature, but sometimes you just can't get a point across without drastic action. Love it or hate it, it works.
Unfortunatly for your kids there father seems to be a fucking prick. (I take the ban, dont care)
User was temp banned for this post.
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On November 03 2011 07:20 gentile wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 07:18 ayaz2810 wrote:On November 03 2011 07:08 Zuxo wrote:On November 03 2011 06:52 ayaz2810 wrote:On November 03 2011 06:48 Cirn9 wrote:
Its just a spanking isn't it?
Not slapping her around and truly beating her.
Maybe I'm just old and things have changed a lot, but spankings weren't anything but a fast punishment for doing something bad. Fuck, when I was little, I'd rather be spanked than grounded, because then I could go back to playing right after the butthurt wore off.
EDIT: Fuck off E-sports elephant! My adblock is disabled! I don't mind a good old fashioned spanking. That being said, no one should be beating on a 16 year old. That's wrong in and of itself. Secondly, a spanking is supposed to be about correcting a behavior. This beating was about anger. Look at how he beats her across the legs and such. And the language he and the mother use. This was not just a punishment, this was them losing control. That's not acceptable at any age. EDIT: Go go internet white knights!! http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45135221/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/2nd EDIT: Yes, I spank my kids. I think it's fine in extreme circumstances and in moderation. How is it okay hitting your kids? You are using a behavior that is extremely tribal and can not even be classified as civilized. Try using methods of raising your children that won't cause mental damage. Religion causes more damage to more people than I ever could. Talk about tribal. People will be outspoken about spanking, but not that garbage. Brool story co. On topic, I generally only use physical discipline in a few circumstances. For example, my kids bedroom and playroom are on the 2nd floor of my house. I've told my kids repeatedly not to touch the windows or the lock things that stop the window from being opened. On one occasion, I walked upstairs and found one of the windows unlocked and partially open. And you can bet that I dished out a spanking in that case. A little bit of pain to avoid a lot more is fine with me. It's a good way to get your point across when something is very serious. I know people like to think that all children can be reasoned with, and that anything that is important to you is important to them. That's just not the case. My kids are super smart, and very mature, but sometimes you just can't get a point across without drastic action. Love it or hate it, it works. Unfortunatly for your kids there father seems to be a fucking prick. (I take the ban, dont care)
Lol whut? Was a pretty reasonable argument I thought. Where did the "fucking prick" part come from? O.o
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Uhh, one thing that bugs me with most people around this site talking for the Judge. One of more relevant arguments for beating a child seems to be that they wont end up like some type of spoiled brat who wont listen to reason.
I'd just like to give my take on it, and now I know I'm from Sweden and apparently this will give me a huge bias, but I still think it's worth pointing out since (at least to me and most people I know, again, I don't have any friends living in the US, so it might be a geographical thing)... Anyhow, worth pointing out.
The lack of beating a child is not the only way to avoid having them grow up spoiled. I'm just saying, maybe we in Sweden generally are more calm or reasoable, but it doesn't take violence to deal with disobedience.
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