EPTphysically abusing / assaulting one ala in that video deserves jail time
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askTeivospy
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physically abusing / assaulting one ala in that video deserves jail time | ||
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clik
United States319 Posts
On November 02 2011 15:57 BoX wrote: Edited out 'cuz this is just irritating. This is why I hate the internet sometimes. Half-cocked dipshits posting opinions that would get them straight up bitch slapped in person. Pathetic. You're a tough guy bro. Your daddy done taught you good. | ||
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Kamais_Ookin
Canada4218 Posts
On November 02 2011 15:58 GhostFall wrote: The only group of people that are disgusting are those who don't think there was anything wrong with what he did. The rest of the people who think the judge is absolutely despicable are justified in feeling like giving him a taste of his own medicine.The lynch mob justice some of you guys are suggesting from this one video, where they want to find this guy and end him, is just as disgusting as domestic abuse. It's just as ignorant as well. | ||
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Deleted_143
Australia256 Posts
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Goldfish
2230 Posts
On November 02 2011 15:58 GhostFall wrote: The lynch mob justice some of you guys are suggesting from this one video, where they want to find this guy and end him, is just as disgusting as domestic abuse. It's just as ignorant as well. Agreed. Prison in U.S. for example show that two wrongs don't make a right (that is to punish rather than to rehabilitate). The majority of released prisoners turn to their crimes again after being released (then going back to prison and the whole overcrowding problem occurs). However prisons where they treat the prisoners/criminals better (rehabilitate rather than punish) turn better (people live normal lives, don't return to crime, etc). Point is saying the person should be beat too is something I disagree with because as U.S. prisons show they don't really work well (I mean of course you get revenge but the person may likely return to crime after they're released. They may become even more bitter, angrier, have hard times to find jobs, etc then return to crime). | ||
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andrea20
Canada441 Posts
using the internet to acquire music and games that were unavailable for legal purchase at the time. This is a passive-aggressive statement if I ever saw one. Why didn't she just admit that she pirated music and games? Actually, "unavailable for legal purchase" could suggest that she acquired private beta copies of games or unreleased music content. I don't know... I'd like to be on her side, but there's always two sides to the story, so I'll hold my breath. | ||
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BarbieHsu
574 Posts
1. Not only is he a child abuser [some say they get completely owned while in prison] and wife beater; 2. He is also a judge. dundundun. That would not end well for him. | ||
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GhostFall
United States830 Posts
On November 02 2011 16:03 Kamais_Ookin wrote: The only group of people that are disgusting are those who don't think there was anything wrong with what he did. The rest of the people who think the judge is absolutely despicable are justified in feeling like giving him a taste of his own medicine. I'm sorry, but are you justifying going over to his house and killing him based on this one video? We don't know the whole story, none of us do. It's not looking good for him, but saying you would kill him over this, is just as fucking disgusting. You and everyone in this thread don't know jack shit about this story. Discussing whether or not capital punishment is good or bad, fine. Abuse or not abuse? Fine. The Internet posting his personal information, and legitimately saying they'll kill him? Not fine, and fucking pathetic. | ||
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
On November 02 2011 16:05 andrea20 wrote: Something about the YouTube description rubs me the wrong way: using the internet to acquire music and games that were unavailable for legal purchase at the time. This is a passive-aggressive statement if I ever saw one. Why didn't she just admit that she pirated music and games? Actually, "unavailable for legal purchase" could suggest that she acquired private beta copies of games or unreleased music content. I don't know... I'd like to be on her side, but there's always two sides to the story, so I'll hold my breath. I don't care what her actions were, her father had no right to abuse her like that. | ||
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chev223
7 Posts
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Kamais_Ookin
Canada4218 Posts
On November 02 2011 16:09 GhostFall wrote: I didn't say kill, I said a taste of his own medicine (hitting him with belt until he cry's like a little girl).I'm sorry, but are you justifying going over to his house and killing him based on this one video? We don't know the whole story, none of us do. It's not looking good for him, but saying you would kill him over this, is just as fucking disgusting. You and everyone in this thread don't know jack shit about this story. Discussing whether or not capital punishment is good or bad, fine. Abuse or not abuse? Fine. The Internet posting his personal information, and legitimately saying they'll kill him? Not fine, and fucking pathetic. Killing him over this would be silly lol, I'd rather he just rot in jail instead and the inmates can take care of him. Also I agree that posting his personal address information and death threats is pathetic. | ||
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andrea20
Canada441 Posts
On November 02 2011 16:10 Cloud9157 wrote: I don't care what her actions were, her father had no right to abuse her like that. What if she had downloaded child pornography? As the father holds the internet account, it would be him that goes to jail for any federal offenses incurred by his daughter. At this point, the statement in the description is hearsay until proven otherwise. Perhaps some elements of the story are true, but others are finely crafted. | ||
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GhostFall
United States830 Posts
On November 02 2011 16:13 Kamais_Ookin wrote: I didn't say kill, I said a taste of his own medicine (hitting him with belt until he cry's like a little girl). Killing him over this would be silly lol, I'd rather he just rot in jail instead and the inmates can take care of him. And even that is stupid to say because again no one in this entire thread knows the full story. The Internet sees a video, and tempers flare. You will never have justice through emotions. | ||
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Goldfish
2230 Posts
On November 02 2011 16:16 GhostFall wrote: And even that is stupid to say because again no one in this entire thread knows the full story. The Internet sees a video, and tempers flare. You will never have justice through emotions. Agreed. Like I said earlier, U.S. jails incorporate punishment but other jails incorporate rehabilitation to try to get the people back into society without hurting anyone or doing anymore crimes (if possible). So far it seems U.S. jails with punishment is not working (most crimnals return to crime after being released). Wanting inmates to take care of him in jail is not right IMO. Also I'm just saying this in general (not to this case specifically but in general). Revenge sometimes just leads to the cycle of revenge. What if the person was beat then released? What if the person was bitter and decided to kidnap people and torture them because well they're bitter from all the problems they endured in jail? Point is revenge is not the best answer. On November 02 2011 16:10 Cloud9157 wrote: I don't care what her actions were, her father had no right to abuse her like that. Agreed. On November 02 2011 16:12 chev223 wrote: This guy might be going a bit too far with the verbal abuse and the fact that the victim was 16, but such beatings are commonplace in many Asian households, including mine when I was younger. I once got punished in a similar fashion for failing a school test when I was 11, not kidding lol. There's a huge difference. I was hit too for being lazy and not wanting to do homework as a child. However the video shows verbal abuse + father being angry. When I was hit I didn't feel like my life or anything is in danger + I know my parents did it to show they cared and just wanted me to do my homework. However this is a totally different case (threatening, verbal abusive, also it wasn't just the daughter but problems throughout the whole family too regarding the guy). | ||
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Remfire
492 Posts
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pandaBee
United States251 Posts
On November 02 2011 15:46 WardenSC wrote: Of course from an outsider looking in, it seems like her parents are abusive in the first glance. However, in this case, I am more sickened by the fact that the girl would have the audacity to videotape the whole scene and cop out on her parents like that. It just feels like she's "acting out" knowing the shitstorm its going to cause for her parents. This kind of punishment is nothing new in most asian cultures, including in Korea. Having been raised with a somewhat strick parents myself, I had been beaten like this and at the time I also thought it was bullshit and all that. But when you grow up, you realize it was really them trying to guide you in the right way, whatever means possible. What kind of parents would enjoy on hitting their child? Before pointing fingers on her parents, you guys should think about how she's resorting to releasing this on the web because they wouldn't let her play "video games". this. User was warned for this post | ||
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Kamais_Ookin
Canada4218 Posts
On November 02 2011 16:16 GhostFall wrote: Full story isn't required. There is absolutely nothing the 16y girl could have done to warrant such a brutal savage beating from the judge. Your damn right my temper is flared from watching that, it's a normal response. And even that is stupid to say because again no one in this entire thread knows the full story. The Internet sees a video, and tempers flare. You will never have justice through emotions. I want that man pelted to a pulp with his own belt. | ||
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REDBLUEGREEN
Germany1903 Posts
Some of you guys would perfectly fit into the inquisition, wanting to murder a man because you don't understand his culture. You are fucking scary, wanting to force your values in some cases onto a man at the other end of the world, by putting him into prison, inflicting bodily harm or murdering him. Don't you see the irony? He wants to punish his own child for misbehavior, you wanna punish a man that you never saw in your life for his misbehavior and not just with a few slaps with a belt but way graver punishments... | ||
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pandaBee
United States251 Posts
On November 02 2011 16:21 Kamais_Ookin wrote: Full story isn't required. There is absolutely nothing the 16y girl could have done to warrant such a brutal savage beating from the judge. Your damn right my temper is flared from watching that, it's a normal response. I want that man pelted to a pulp with his own belt. beating? booty spanking with a belt for a minute or two =/= beating | ||
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vetinari
Australia602 Posts
On November 02 2011 15:43 G_G wrote: That's a good point. However, it still doesn't explain what's supposed to happen after the parents aren't around to dish out the immediate consequence. A woman thinking of divorcing her husband for frivolous gain isn't going to spank herself out of it, even if her parents spanked her when she was a kid. People cannot be expected to spank themselves when their parents aren't around to do it for them. You said that most people have short term horizons. Isn't that being promoted and even enforced by corporal punishment? Through such punishments, aren't parents encouraging their kids to think about the short-term consequences in the form of physical punishment rather than the more natural life-related punishments that will happen further into the future? There must be some way to teach kids to think long-term and realize that hard work pays off without resorting to applying a punishment that is easily removed by growing up and leaving the parents behind. Its bit of a bugger, isn't it? The problem with getting people to think long term, is that often they never stop to think in the first place. People often just do "what feels good". One thing that swift and certain punishment is good for, is getting people to stop and think before they act. Thus, the idea would be to get a "stop, think" habit going, coupled with the parents explaining long term consequences. So, hopefully, thinking twice becomes a habit, and once habits get going, they don't usually stop (easily). It might not work, but then, no one ever said that being a good parent is easy. Being a bad one is, though. As for hard work: I wonder if people really learned the value of hard work in the past, the way our children are supposed to. To be honest, it seems to me, that people learned to work hard because they had no other choice (and of course, good parental example). The responsibility of caring for a family was placed upon them early. People don't really grow up until they have to grow up.  As for spanking themselves: thats point of laws and social customs. To give immediate unpleasant consequences to stupid and socially undesirable decisions. | ||
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