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On November 02 2011 15:46 WardenSC wrote:
Of course from an outsider looking in, it seems like her parents are abusive in the first glance. However, in this case, I am more sickened by the fact that the girl would have the audacity to videotape the whole scene and cop out on her parents like that. It just feels like she's "acting out" knowing the shitstorm its going to cause for her parents.
This kind of punishment is nothing new in most asian cultures, including in Korea. Having been raised with a somewhat strick parents myself, I had been beaten like this and at the time I also thought it was bullshit and all that. But when you grow up, you realize it was really them trying to guide you in the right way, whatever means possible. What kind of parents would enjoy on hitting their child? Before pointing fingers on her parents, you guys should think about how she's resorting to releasing this on the web because they wouldn't let her play "video games".
QFT. Such beatings (repeated belting, lots of yelling) are not rare at all.
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On November 02 2011 16:21 pandaBee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 15:46 WardenSC wrote:
Of course from an outsider looking in, it seems like her parents are abusive in the first glance. However, in this case, I am more sickened by the fact that the girl would have the audacity to videotape the whole scene and cop out on her parents like that. It just feels like she's "acting out" knowing the shitstorm its going to cause for her parents.
This kind of punishment is nothing new in most asian cultures, including in Korea. Having been raised with a somewhat strick parents myself, I had been beaten like this and at the time I also thought it was bullshit and all that. But when you grow up, you realize it was really them trying to guide you in the right way, whatever means possible. What kind of parents would enjoy on hitting their child? Before pointing fingers on her parents, you guys should think about how she's resorting to releasing this on the web because they wouldn't let her play "video games". this.
First the major thing to note that it isn't just the daughter, it's a family problem. He's abusive to everyone in the family.
Second she probably had this happen to her before which is why had the foresight to video tape it just in case.
Why would she want to set up her parents if they were nice people?
She's releasing it now (as an adult) so it isn't like she is some spoiled kid that wants everything and wants to get her parents in trouble.
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On November 02 2011 16:21 Kamais_Ookin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 16:16 GhostFall wrote:On November 02 2011 16:13 Kamais_Ookin wrote:On November 02 2011 16:09 GhostFall wrote:On November 02 2011 16:03 Kamais_Ookin wrote:On November 02 2011 15:58 GhostFall wrote:
The lynch mob justice some of you guys are suggesting from this one video, where they want to find this guy and end him, is just as disgusting as domestic abuse. It's just as ignorant as well. The only group of people that are disgusting are those who don't think there was anything wrong with what he did. The rest of the people who think the judge is absolutely despicable are justified in feeling like giving him a taste of his own medicine. I'm sorry, but are you justifying going over to his house and killing him based on this one video? We don't know the whole story, none of us do. It's not looking good for him, but saying you would kill him over this, is just as fucking disgusting. You and everyone in this thread don't know jack shit about this story. Discussing whether or not capital punishment is good or bad, fine. Abuse or not abuse? Fine. The Internet posting his personal information, and legitimately saying they'll kill him? Not fine, and fucking pathetic. I didn't say kill, I said a taste of his own medicine (hitting him with belt until he cry's like a little girl). Killing him over this would be silly lol, I'd rather he just rot in jail instead and the inmates can take care of him. And even that is stupid to say because again no one in this entire thread knows the full story. The Internet sees a video, and tempers flare. You will never have justice through emotions. Full story isn't required. There is absolutely nothing the 16y girl could have done to warrant such a brutal savage beating from the judge. Your damn right my temper is flared from watching that, it's a normal response. I want that man pelted to a pulp with his own belt.
Stupid. What if the girl was distributing child porn with her internet usage? What if the judge is normally a perfectly good father, who uses a belt for spanking, a strict but perfectly legal and common form of capital punishment, who just on that day with a video camera was recorded losing his temper the one and only time and became excessive.
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I've got a wonderful bat waiting for me to hit him with it, anyone want to join?
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On November 02 2011 16:27 Goldfish wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 16:21 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 15:46 WardenSC wrote:
Of course from an outsider looking in, it seems like her parents are abusive in the first glance. However, in this case, I am more sickened by the fact that the girl would have the audacity to videotape the whole scene and cop out on her parents like that. It just feels like she's "acting out" knowing the shitstorm its going to cause for her parents.
This kind of punishment is nothing new in most asian cultures, including in Korea. Having been raised with a somewhat strick parents myself, I had been beaten like this and at the time I also thought it was bullshit and all that. But when you grow up, you realize it was really them trying to guide you in the right way, whatever means possible. What kind of parents would enjoy on hitting their child? Before pointing fingers on her parents, you guys should think about how she's resorting to releasing this on the web because they wouldn't let her play "video games". this. First the major thing to note that it isn't just the daughter, it's a family problem. He's abusive to everyone in the family. Second she probably had this happen to her before which is why had the foresight to video tape it just in case. Why would she want to set up her parents if they were nice people? She's releasing it now (as an adult) so it isn't like she is some spoiled kid that wants everything and wants to get her parents in trouble.
why are you trying to delve into their entire family history when u don't even know anything about it besides whatever was posted in the OP? im just concerned about what was seen in the video and not ALL the possible implications behind it.
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On November 02 2011 16:21 pandaBee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 15:46 WardenSC wrote:
Of course from an outsider looking in, it seems like her parents are abusive in the first glance. However, in this case, I am more sickened by the fact that the girl would have the audacity to videotape the whole scene and cop out on her parents like that. It just feels like she's "acting out" knowing the shitstorm its going to cause for her parents.
This kind of punishment is nothing new in most asian cultures, including in Korea. Having been raised with a somewhat strick parents myself, I had been beaten like this and at the time I also thought it was bullshit and all that. But when you grow up, you realize it was really them trying to guide you in the right way, whatever means possible. What kind of parents would enjoy on hitting their child? Before pointing fingers on her parents, you guys should think about how she's resorting to releasing this on the web because they wouldn't let her play "video games". this.
If this is common in asian culture then asian culture is fucked up and needs to change. Kids can be guided without being physically and verbally abused.
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Can someone who lives near this guy go beat the shit out of him, thanks!
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What i'm really wondering is why in the world did this girl wait until now to reveal all this and why she didn't go straight to the authorities if she had evidence then why wait till now? it's as if she wanted revenge on a bigger scale... no reason to make family matters public like this how shameful. she should have at least kept it personal if she was going to rat out her father no need to let the whole nation know.
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On November 02 2011 16:30 pandaBee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 16:27 Goldfish wrote:On November 02 2011 16:21 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 15:46 WardenSC wrote:
Of course from an outsider looking in, it seems like her parents are abusive in the first glance. However, in this case, I am more sickened by the fact that the girl would have the audacity to videotape the whole scene and cop out on her parents like that. It just feels like she's "acting out" knowing the shitstorm its going to cause for her parents.
This kind of punishment is nothing new in most asian cultures, including in Korea. Having been raised with a somewhat strick parents myself, I had been beaten like this and at the time I also thought it was bullshit and all that. But when you grow up, you realize it was really them trying to guide you in the right way, whatever means possible. What kind of parents would enjoy on hitting their child? Before pointing fingers on her parents, you guys should think about how she's resorting to releasing this on the web because they wouldn't let her play "video games". this. First the major thing to note that it isn't just the daughter, it's a family problem. He's abusive to everyone in the family. Second she probably had this happen to her before which is why had the foresight to video tape it just in case. Why would she want to set up her parents if they were nice people? She's releasing it now (as an adult) so it isn't like she is some spoiled kid that wants everything and wants to get her parents in trouble. why are you trying to delve into their entire family history when u don't even know anything about it besides whatever was posted in the OP? im just concerned about what was seen in the video and not ALL the possible implications behind it.
Because there is more information than what is in the OP in the reddit thread and youtube video summary?
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People siding with the father's actions are sick. I can see beating a younger child for severely misbehaving, but a 16 year old is basically an adult, and resorting to violence against a human being capable of rational thought is a sign of some kind of social illness. The father deserves for this to be publicized and to be berated for his actions and never elected again. Serves him right. I respect the courage it must have taken for the daughter to come forward with this video and I can't imagine the trauma she must have endured in his household.
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Montenegro10532 Posts
On November 02 2011 16:05 andrea20 wrote:
Something about the YouTube description rubs me the wrong way:
using the internet to acquire music and games that were unavailable for legal purchase at the time.
This is a passive-aggressive statement if I ever saw one. Why didn't she just admit that she pirated music and games? Actually, "unavailable for legal purchase" could suggest that she acquired private beta copies of games or unreleased music content.
I don't know... I'd like to be on her side, but there's always two sides to the story, so I'll hold my breath.
Really, that's what rubs you the wrong way here? -_-
She did admit it, not like there's anything to "admit" anyway. I don't know how any of that can justify the actions by the parents though.
On November 02 2011 16:33 pandaBee wrote:
What i'm really wondering is why in the world did this girl wait until now to reveal all this and why she didn't go straight to the authorities if she had evidence then why wait till now? it's as if she wanted revenge on a bigger scale... no reason to make family matters public like this how shameful. she should have at least kept it personal if she was going to rat out her father no need to let the whole nation know.
She wanted safety more than revenge, I'd say. She would accomplish nothing by going to the authorities when she was 16 and ultimately she would still have to go back home eventually.
It's a good thing for everyone to know (and if possible, see) these things. What would be shameful is that guy getting away with this - this way even if he gets away with it (legally), everyone still knows what happened, which I imagine will make things difficult enough for him.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On November 02 2011 16:26 chev223 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 15:46 WardenSC wrote:
Of course from an outsider looking in, it seems like her parents are abusive in the first glance. However, in this case, I am more sickened by the fact that the girl would have the audacity to videotape the whole scene and cop out on her parents like that. It just feels like she's "acting out" knowing the shitstorm its going to cause for her parents.
This kind of punishment is nothing new in most asian cultures, including in Korea. Having been raised with a somewhat strick parents myself, I had been beaten like this and at the time I also thought it was bullshit and all that. But when you grow up, you realize it was really them trying to guide you in the right way, whatever means possible. What kind of parents would enjoy on hitting their child? Before pointing fingers on her parents, you guys should think about how she's resorting to releasing this on the web because they wouldn't let her play "video games". QFT. Such beatings (repeated belting, lots of yelling) are not rare at all.
Just because they are common, doesn't make it right.
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On November 02 2011 16:30 pandaBee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 16:27 Goldfish wrote:On November 02 2011 16:21 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 15:46 WardenSC wrote:
Of course from an outsider looking in, it seems like her parents are abusive in the first glance. However, in this case, I am more sickened by the fact that the girl would have the audacity to videotape the whole scene and cop out on her parents like that. It just feels like she's "acting out" knowing the shitstorm its going to cause for her parents.
This kind of punishment is nothing new in most asian cultures, including in Korea. Having been raised with a somewhat strick parents myself, I had been beaten like this and at the time I also thought it was bullshit and all that. But when you grow up, you realize it was really them trying to guide you in the right way, whatever means possible. What kind of parents would enjoy on hitting their child? Before pointing fingers on her parents, you guys should think about how she's resorting to releasing this on the web because they wouldn't let her play "video games". this. First the major thing to note that it isn't just the daughter, it's a family problem. He's abusive to everyone in the family. Second she probably had this happen to her before which is why had the foresight to video tape it just in case. Why would she want to set up her parents if they were nice people? She's releasing it now (as an adult) so it isn't like she is some spoiled kid that wants everything and wants to get her parents in trouble. why are you trying to delve into their entire family history when u don't even know anything about it besides whatever was posted in the OP? im just concerned about what was seen in the video and not ALL the possible implications behind it.
Video description:
2004: Aransas County Court-At-Law Judge William Adams took a belt to his own teenage daughter as punishment for using the internet to acquire music and games that were unavailable for legal purchase at the time. She has had ataxic cerebral palsy from birth that led her to a passion for technology, which was strictly forbidden by her father's backwards views. The judge's wife was emotionally abused herself and was severely manipulated into assisting the beating and should not be blamed for any content in this video. The judge's wife has since left the marriage due to the abuse, which continues to this day, and has sincerely apologized and repented for her part and for allowing such a thing, long before this video was even revealed to exist. Judge William Adams is not fit to be anywhere near the law system if he can't even exercise fit judgement as a parent himself. Do not allow this man to ever be re-elected again. His "judgement" is a giant farce. Signed, Hillary Adams, his daughter.
Now of course this was written by the daughter (meaning she could have lied or so) but it'll be probably be easy to confirm or deny this if/when their parents are questioned.
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On November 02 2011 16:26 chev223 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 15:46 WardenSC wrote:
Of course from an outsider looking in, it seems like her parents are abusive in the first glance. However, in this case, I am more sickened by the fact that the girl would have the audacity to videotape the whole scene and cop out on her parents like that. It just feels like she's "acting out" knowing the shitstorm its going to cause for her parents.
This kind of punishment is nothing new in most asian cultures, including in Korea. Having been raised with a somewhat strick parents myself, I had been beaten like this and at the time I also thought it was bullshit and all that. But when you grow up, you realize it was really them trying to guide you in the right way, whatever means possible. What kind of parents would enjoy on hitting their child? Before pointing fingers on her parents, you guys should think about how she's resorting to releasing this on the web because they wouldn't let her play "video games". QFT. Such beatings (repeated belting, lots of yelling) are not rare at all.
So just because it isn't rare it's fine? How on earth both of you can turn around this to fault the girl is beyond me.
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On November 02 2011 16:33 Bosu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 16:30 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 16:27 Goldfish wrote:On November 02 2011 16:21 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 15:46 WardenSC wrote:
Of course from an outsider looking in, it seems like her parents are abusive in the first glance. However, in this case, I am more sickened by the fact that the girl would have the audacity to videotape the whole scene and cop out on her parents like that. It just feels like she's "acting out" knowing the shitstorm its going to cause for her parents.
This kind of punishment is nothing new in most asian cultures, including in Korea. Having been raised with a somewhat strick parents myself, I had been beaten like this and at the time I also thought it was bullshit and all that. But when you grow up, you realize it was really them trying to guide you in the right way, whatever means possible. What kind of parents would enjoy on hitting their child? Before pointing fingers on her parents, you guys should think about how she's resorting to releasing this on the web because they wouldn't let her play "video games". this. First the major thing to note that it isn't just the daughter, it's a family problem. He's abusive to everyone in the family. Second she probably had this happen to her before which is why had the foresight to video tape it just in case. Why would she want to set up her parents if they were nice people? She's releasing it now (as an adult) so it isn't like she is some spoiled kid that wants everything and wants to get her parents in trouble. why are you trying to delve into their entire family history when u don't even know anything about it besides whatever was posted in the OP? im just concerned about what was seen in the video and not ALL the possible implications behind it. Because there is more information than what is in the OP in the reddit thread and youtube video summary?
And you believe it? just because someone writes a description doesn't make that description true. from what i see it seems that the girl has ulterior motives. it's obvious since she has wasted so long to post this. probably used her parents to fund her through college or something and then waited till just now to drop the bomb as punishment. oh wait are u going to tell me that what i just said isn't necessarily true? i could say the same thing about what was in that description you read or anything really that people are suggesting in this thread it's all conjecture and not fact.
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I hardly ever comment on anything on any fourm ever and ive seen just about every disturbing/reaction drawing video or picture you could imagine and this is the first time I could feel myself literally gripping the sides of my chair with feelings of anxiousness and despair. This is downright no questions asked blatant child abuse. I don't even see how you could argue the other way. Im so disturbed right now.... like literally one of the worst things ive seen.
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On November 02 2011 16:30 pandaBee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 16:27 Goldfish wrote:On November 02 2011 16:21 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 15:46 WardenSC wrote:
Of course from an outsider looking in, it seems like her parents are abusive in the first glance. However, in this case, I am more sickened by the fact that the girl would have the audacity to videotape the whole scene and cop out on her parents like that. It just feels like she's "acting out" knowing the shitstorm its going to cause for her parents.
This kind of punishment is nothing new in most asian cultures, including in Korea. Having been raised with a somewhat strick parents myself, I had been beaten like this and at the time I also thought it was bullshit and all that. But when you grow up, you realize it was really them trying to guide you in the right way, whatever means possible. What kind of parents would enjoy on hitting their child? Before pointing fingers on her parents, you guys should think about how she's resorting to releasing this on the web because they wouldn't let her play "video games". this. First the major thing to note that it isn't just the daughter, it's a family problem. He's abusive to everyone in the family. Second she probably had this happen to her before which is why had the foresight to video tape it just in case. Why would she want to set up her parents if they were nice people? She's releasing it now (as an adult) so it isn't like she is some spoiled kid that wants everything and wants to get her parents in trouble. why are you trying to delve into their entire family history when u don't even know anything about it besides whatever was posted in the OP? im just concerned about what was seen in the video and not ALL the possible implications behind it.
The girl in the video posted it on Reddit and answered a few questions there; everything he says is taken from what she said in that thread.
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On November 02 2011 16:32 Bosu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 16:21 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 15:46 WardenSC wrote:
Of course from an outsider looking in, it seems like her parents are abusive in the first glance. However, in this case, I am more sickened by the fact that the girl would have the audacity to videotape the whole scene and cop out on her parents like that. It just feels like she's "acting out" knowing the shitstorm its going to cause for her parents.
This kind of punishment is nothing new in most asian cultures, including in Korea. Having been raised with a somewhat strick parents myself, I had been beaten like this and at the time I also thought it was bullshit and all that. But when you grow up, you realize it was really them trying to guide you in the right way, whatever means possible. What kind of parents would enjoy on hitting their child? Before pointing fingers on her parents, you guys should think about how she's resorting to releasing this on the web because they wouldn't let her play "video games". this. If this is common in asian culture then asian culture is fucked up and needs to change. Kids can be guided without being physically and verbally abused.
In rare cases that might actually work. Simply telling them to do something is one thing, getting them to do something is another thing. Classical conditioning works, and if there are better means than that, I'd like to hear them.
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Opinions on physical punishment aside, the shit he was saying to her was totally out of line and disgusting for a parent to say in any situation.
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