EPTAnonymous takes on mexican drug cartel - Page 10
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
On November 01 2011 08:53 Chairman Ray wrote: After watching Breaking Bad, I'm kind of scared what the cartel might do. Anon may have good intentions, but this might not turn out so well. The cartel can't really do anything to Anon, in the same way that Anon can't hurt the cartel. Neither has enough information about the other to take any meaningful or significant action. | ||
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CajunMan
United States823 Posts
On October 31 2011 17:59 tok wrote: Either members of "anonymous" are going to get killed in retaliation or this is just an empty threat. Right because the gonna find some guy named anonymous right? Lots of respect tear those cartels a new one. | ||
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MMello
279 Posts
Too much bad mouthing anonymous Lol  Im just kidding.. | ||
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Angry.Zerg
Mexico305 Posts
On November 01 2011 08:53 Chairman Ray wrote: After watching Breaking Bad, I'm kind of scared what the cartel might do. Anon may have good intentions, but this might not turn out so well. BBad's narcos are a cartoon version of real narcos: http://www.nowpublic.com/world/monterrey-mexico-casino-royale-attack-kills-52-video-2830060.html Anyway, I don't think any cartel would mind whatever a bunch of kids could post on youtube, so don't worry, Anon is safe. | ||
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holdthephone
United States523 Posts
On November 01 2011 08:53 Chairman Ray wrote: After watching Breaking Bad, I'm kind of scared what the cartel might do. Anon may have good intentions, but this might not turn out so well. I love me some BB but when the show actually starts to depict cartel behavior is when it's at its worse IMO. Very cartoonish, as the poster above me pointed out. Anyways I have no idea what to say to the anon video. Since anon could be anyone, I have no idea of this particular anon's capabilities. | ||
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Flonomenalz
Nigeria3519 Posts
On November 01 2011 08:50 azka wrote: Seriously, get real. There is nothing Anon can do to the most violent cartel, its still stupid as I said before. Block bank accounts? do you really believe los Zetas go to any bank to keep their money? and if they do, its because they own the bank. Reveal a name list? I can't believe this... just go and walk to any street outside of Mexico City, and you will recognize a Cartel member. Everybody knows who they are, even the rival cartels know... cheesus, even the militaries know. All of them are protected by local governments, and if they don't get the protection they just kill the governor... as it has happen in the last 6 years. You don't know how it is here. Lol I know right. | ||
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jmack
Canada285 Posts
Must suck to live in the "competition" cities. Be safe TL Mexicans! + Show Spoiler + O and LOL at the Fast and Furious ATF operation. Whoops!! Besides release the names I don't think anon will do much and if the gangs are as untouchable locally as described then it'll be for not. I feel bad for the one captured by the cartel, I guess he's done for........ O and they probably won't need to do any real work to find their captive's "anon friends". Theres this thing called torture.... | ||
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Seldentar
United States888 Posts
On November 01 2011 08:24 Crying wrote: You can't kill something that doesn't exist. Come get a person using hacked WiFi with a spoofed MACadress and throws out his LAN Card every week and is using payed VPN..... EXACTLY | ||
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Seldentar
United States888 Posts
On November 01 2011 08:27 Nizaris wrote: lol. i'm sure some1 with unlimited funds can't find a hacker ... No amount of money can find something that doesn't exist | ||
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theBizness
United States696 Posts
On November 01 2011 07:14 CptCutter wrote: i very much doubt that because who in their right mind would threaten crime organisation and then join them? the world does not revolve around money like you seem to think. It does, however, revolve around not wanting your entire family mutilated with their burned remains in a roadside ditch. | ||
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Rasun
United States787 Posts
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Seldentar
United States888 Posts
On November 01 2011 08:54 PraetorialGamer wrote: The cartel can't really do anything to Anon, in the same way that Anon can't hurt the cartel. Neither has enough information about the other to take any meaningful or significant action. On the contrary, Anon has strong ties from within the U.S. government and can effectively remove them as a threat with a snap of their fingers. Brains > brawn | ||
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Elegy
United States1629 Posts
Anyone who thinks Anonymous can do anything to actually hurt the drug cartels is a deluded child. The drug cartels aren't some Westboro Baptist Church or some douchebag on the internet who posts hateful youtube videos, they are the people that own the government, local officials, police, etc. You think rival cartels don't know who the top dogs of other cartels are? Really? This isn't a Call of Duty game where a few guys with guns can infiltrate X organization and kill A, B, C leaders and call it a day and the whole organization falls to the ground, it's a systemic corruption of virtually every level of the Mexican government aided by their friends across the border in the US who supply the vast majority of weapons. I'm all for crushing the drug cartels and maybe, just maybe (!!) these hackers can help with that if they somehow stumble across some information that the Mexican military, police, and government (and US government + intelligence agencies) haven't already gotten, but get real people. On the contrary, Anon has strong ties from within the U.S. government and can effectively remove them as a threat with a snap of their fingers. Brains > brawn What does this even mean? Effectively remove whom? The cartels? Anon? I agree, brains > brawn but when you are dealing with cartels that have successfully waged a private war on an entire government with aid from its northern neighbor and are arguably winning that war handily, it's difficult to see how a group of internet warriors can do anything or find hidden information that the combined wealth and power of the other groups don't already know. Anon can't even touch Facebook, let alone the drug cartels rofl. This gets more ridiculous the more you think about it. | ||
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On November 01 2011 04:11 lvent wrote: Just did a blog about that will copy and paste thanks to TheMango for pointing this thread was here. http://www.informationweek.com/news/security/cybercrime/231901970 My background/job is in computer networks, so I try and keep up with what is going on and came across the article above(and substantial others similar). I was never really a fan of them personally, I feel they are a bunch of malcontents. While behind their anonymity they are the biggest bad asses the interweb has ever seen, then when they are caught they become an elephant in a room full of mice(See Jake Davis). Its one thing for them to "go after" a civilized country's IP, as the results and coincidences of doing so will just be jail for you and your accomplices. When you "decide" to wage war on a drug cartel you enter a whole other realm. Those mother fuckers do not play. They will wipe out a town if they are uncooperative. I believe last year the body count alone was 30k. If the "kids" in anon, lulzsec or whatever subgroup think that they will be safe dropping names and screwing with drug lords money they are idiots. Information Week reached out to an intelligence research firm that said basically anyone they name will be killed if they have ties to the organization. What Anonymous fails to realize is a vast majority of these people are forced to help. If they dont them, their family, and anyone close to them can be killed. What these "hackers" don't understand and it really is a common misconception; is they veiw these cartels as being just muscle and no brains. Make no mistakes about them, they are : well financed, well equipped, and have access to information via bribes or threats. There are probably only a dozen or so true "hackers" in their group(s?). The rest are script kiddies or use GUI programs. What is going to happen is if they go this route they are going to get a bunch of people(a majority of innocents) killed. They are going to put themselves and their families at risk. They think that being in the US,Canada,Europe that they are safe; they are sadly mistaken. I cant fault them for wanting to go after people who are inherently bad, but they really need to think something like this out more especially in dealing with the consequences which will definitely be there. Just fyi, script kiddies do nothing in the anonymous groups. Those true blue hackers are those that des the job; sometimes they require the help of those script kiddies with gui programs to weaken the security. That all. Also, basic -advanced security measures were made for these kiddies before allowing them to help. If they could bring down malaysian government websites overnight WITHOUT the help of these lulsec bigshots, then... | ||
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AntiGrav1ty
Germany2310 Posts
On November 01 2011 08:54 PraetorialGamer wrote: The cartel can't really do anything to Anon, in the same way that Anon can't hurt the cartel. Neither has enough information about the other to take any meaningful or significant action. That's why some innocent people are goin to suffer from this. Also, the kidnapped person is not gonna have a great time the next few days to say the least... | ||
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TheRealArtemis
687 Posts
On November 01 2011 10:22 Seldentar wrote: On the contrary, Anon has strong ties from within the U.S. government and can effectively remove them as a threat with a snap of their fingers. Brains > brawn What...Please elaborate | ||
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gods_basement
United States305 Posts
sounds like speculation to me | ||
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iO
United States5 Posts
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Wegandi
United States2455 Posts
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